shattered

[Owl]

Tigers are on the upward curve, last year after a horror stretch our percentage would of been irretrievable and we would of been penciling all those rematches in as certain shellackings.  This time we are and I bet most of the teams we played are not sure how they will play out.  Irritating as it is, we have improved, 5 solid weeks of back to back competitive performances against the best sides beats getting shellacked.  If they keep the trend going we should dismantle lesser sides and polish our routines for the next top five encounter.
Feel free to discuss in a derogatory or positive manner!

[Owl]

Winners win and losers lose. We are still a loser team with loser mentality and still too many losers in the side. Hopefully by 2014 those losers will be gone, the culture changes and hope will translate to beleif and actually winning games. Like Geelong and West Coke, even though they're not playing so well they still end up winning.

This is what I hope will happen but the club has to get rid of losers and players with loser DNA and must have higher standards than they currently have.

you repeatedly post proving how little idea of reality you have
we still have a loser mentality? based on what? the fact we were beaten by a better side 
the fact that on two seperate occasions we were down by 20 odd points but fought back against a top 4 side?  yeah real loser mentality!

want to see loser mentality? go back and have a look at 2009 season. If you cannot see any improvement in all aspects of the game, particularly not crumbling once a side a puts pressure on and getting flogged, then you are more clueless than i give you credit for.

right on Al, losers are those who give up when things look crap, out team is fighting it out til the final siren.

[Penelope]

An interesting stat for those who think we haven't improved.  Here is the difference (improvement) from the last time we played each team:

59 points better against Carlton
50 points better against Collingwood
52 points better against Melbourne
52 points better against Geelong
47 points better against West Coast

I think some on here are guilty of not paying enough respect to the basket-case position we have come from.  Crawl before you walk.

I've tried to point this out before, but to no avail. I even created a thread to gauge what peoples expectations were in weeks 3-5, but most of those who carry on the most when we lose wouldn't put it out there what they did expect.

as you say crawl before you can walk, but to continue the analogy we i reckon we have learned to walk, and we are are awfully close to running.

Over the next few weeks we do need to start putting wins on the board

[Owl]

as I mentioned elsewhere, I think Jack and Vickers are playing back into some fitness after their ops, and will get back into their best soon, they both showed glimpses of some match form against the eagles, when they click and join our much improved defence and midfield, we will be wafting our tiger musk all over the joint.

[cub]

The topic tittle says it all - I am sh|t scared against Port this week 

[mat073]

An interesting stat for those who think we haven't improved.  Here is the difference (improvement) from the last time we played each team:

59 points better against Carlton
50 points better against Collingwood
52 points better against Melbourne
52 points better against Geelong
47 points better against West Coast

I think some on here are guilty of not paying enough respect to the basket-case position we have come from.  Crawl before you walk.

We really need a "Like" button on this site.
Showing far too much common sense here smokey.

[mat073]

Look ... I am as frustrated as the next tortured tiger soul .

However I dont think we have been this close to the competitions elite in over a decade.

If Choco Williams was our coach he would be saying we are the best 1-4 team in history.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Winners win and losers lose. We are still a loser team with loser mentality and still too many losers in the side. Hopefully by 2014 those losers will be gone, the culture changes and hope will translate to beleif and actually winning games. Like Geelong and West Coke, even though they're not playing so well they still end up winning.

This is what I hope will happen but the club has to get rid of losers and players with loser DNA and must have higher standards than they currently have.

you repeatedly post proving how little idea of reality you have
we still have a loser mentality? based on what? the fact we were beaten by a better side 
the fact that on two seperate occasions we were down by 20 odd points but fought back against a top 4 side?  yeah real loser mentality!

want to see loser mentality? go back and have a look at 2009 season. If you cannot see any improvement in all aspects of the game, particularly not crumbling once a side a puts pressure on and getting flogged, then you are more clueless than i give you credit for.

I agree we've improved. But the loser mentality still exists at tigerland.
I've read posts about north and essendon written on here telling us they're on for a fall. Well north BEAT Geelong and essendon thrashed carlscum. We didn't.
Teams like ess, north, swans have a better culture and a winners attitude this is why despite all the experts predicting a fall they consistently play finals footy.
How many years did essendon spend out of finals in the last 15 years.

Facts are we have still got a long way to go. Until we get rid of losers and raise the standard we won't ever get to play consistant finals footy. 

[tdy]

The difference is our third tier.
I echo some of the sentiments.

You want to see the difference and take the umpires out of it.

Look at the effectiveness and efficiency of

Ashton Hams vs Robin Nahas.

There is your difference. If Ellis was not injured how Nahas was not subbed is beyond me.

Ellis would have made a difference in defence Nahas could still be out there now and would be doing pirouettes with the seagulls and getting tackled by the cleaners.

I too am shattered.

Could have been a breakthrough win instead I am hoping Port have had a brutal afternoon to help us next week at AAMI.

Gutted and shattered right now.

We should be at least 3-2.

This is a good post.

I'll add that we just cant afford to carry 4-5 players each round who are ineffective. Neman, white, Vickerys, Nahas, Jackson, etc etc etc No wonder we can't beat the better teams, and trust me they aren't even playing that good. We have been lucky.

We are just a draft away from getting rid of the last vestiges of the old list and I think the new players in general are better.  Only time will tell.  I can probably pick 6-8 of the players to go already and sorry Jackson isn't one of them, his age is just too right, you keep him around as a spare but his opportunites as a firsts player next year would be limited I would think.