30 Years of Mediocrity

[jordie2tivendale]

Book me in  mate am totally rabid at the moment  i need a holiday following my beloved tigers is heart wrenching poo

[10 FLAGS]

If you can go out and murder a top 4 genuine side like Hawthorn and lead Adelaide by 6 goals you have a great foundation indeed  the thing is we  just always bring our hard work undone  by stupid selection  mistakes  like this week  miller 0 goals stuff all assists and pooloads of clangers  gets played ffs wake up  RFC read this

Go get-em tiger: info@richmondfc.com.au

No one should ever bother emailing the employees at the club they just want our membership money and contributions for the fighting fund and beyond that they probably dont give a stuff so I doubt theyd respond to your most reasonable and correct criticism.

[jordie2tivendale]

i am pretty sure they read our stuff though  .... FFS there is not one person  on this site that really thinks Miller has deserved his spot since the  Dreamtime game  is there?

[WA Tiger]

Yep, over it...30 years of poo.

[Smokey]

DIGGLERS Caravan Park is taking Bookings for September - hopefully our players and coaches can get in early and go on holidays at their usual time being at the end of August. Bookings are also open for supporters 

You can book in Ramps but I think I'll wait - more to be played out in this strange season yet.  And I wouldn't waste time booking for next year - will be damn boring watching us in the communal TV room with a bunch of Saints and North supporters.   

[tony_montana]

i am pretty sure they read our stuff though  .... FFS there is not one person  on this site that really thinks Miller has deserved his spot since the  Dreamtime game  is there?

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[mightytiges]

The trouble is MT I have heard this kind of rumination for 30 years. It is an excuse to fail.

That's because we continually and deludedly overrated where we were at and went with the quick fix trading top picks for other clubs' fringe duds at top dollar at the expense of developing our own and bringing them through together which only kept us in mediocre-land. It was a vicious circle. We haven't done that under Dimma. We are also now for the first time putting $$$ into resourcing our footy dept. across all areas to make sure we pick the right kids and recruits and develop them properly. Now I would've 'tanked' in 2009-10 when we had the chance to accelerate the rebuild but waiting one more year isn't going to kill us after waiting and watching crap that took us nowhere on and off-field for three decades.

[10 FLAGS]

The trouble is MT I have heard this kind of rumination for 30 years. It is an excuse to fail.

That's because we continually and deludedly overrated where we were at and went with the quick fix trading top picks for other clubs' fringe duds at top dollar at the expense of developing our own and bringing them through together which only kept us in mediocre-land. It was a vicious circle. We haven't done that under Dimma. We are also now for the first time putting $$$ into resourcing our footy dept. across all areas to make sure we pick the right kids and recruits and develop them properly. Now I would've 'tanked' in 2009-10 when we had the chance to accelerate the rebuild but waiting one more year isn't going to kill us after waiting and watching crap that took us nowhere on and off-field for three decades.

Recruiting prowess still has to be proved IMHO. Brandon Ellis has a serious issue with pace. He seems extremely slow over the first 5 or so metres and in AFL you dont get that amount of space. Has to find an extra yard or two of speed at least over the next preseason.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Expectations were raised after the Hawthorn and St Kilda wins but at the start of the year a frustrating season was always on the cards even with overall improvement given where our list is at. You can't lob this year with the previous 30 years. We have come a long way forward but we were starting from a long way back and in 2012 we aren't good enough YET. Upper level of our list is but it falls away still thanks to a mixture of still being too young and inexperienced and old guys still getting a game who can't cut it consistently when a game is on the line. I'm ticked off we lost today as anyone but nothing has changed as far as judging where we are at.

The funny thing is we could win our next 2-3 games in a row and be back in the hunt and hopes will be raised again. Likewise we will probably have another 'bad' loss along the way and we'll all be drowing our sorrows like right now. It's going to be one of those years and not unexpected from a young team. Very often young teams have the frustrating pre-year before the step up to become a finals side the following year. Anyway finishing 10-11th this year gets us a top 10 pick; Port's crapness means we'll get a early-mid 20 compo pick and probably another around 30 (normal 2nd round); then add a free agent who can walk into the side next year. Enables us to offload list cloggers and pushes most of our current bottom 6 out of the side to just fringe players/list cloggers. It's an evolving process as is development within our young cubs. As supporters we need to be patient even though that word ticks most of us off after 30 years of mediocrity.

your very right once again MT.

But I do sit back and wonder why clubs like the bombers never have the same struggle just to make finals as we seem to year after year.
We wear our Richmond love on our sleaves and we are proud supporters but you have to admit it peees you off when people laugh when you tell them you barrack for the Tigers, then you hear them say, "ohhh I like Richmond, they'll get there one day".
Gives me the poos. But that's what we've become.
 
 

[mightytiges]

Expectations were raised after the Hawthorn and St Kilda wins but at the start of the year a frustrating season was always on the cards even with overall improvement given where our list is at. You can't lob this year with the previous 30 years. We have come a long way forward but we were starting from a long way back and in 2012 we aren't good enough YET. Upper level of our list is but it falls away still thanks to a mixture of still being too young and inexperienced and old guys still getting a game who can't cut it consistently when a game is on the line. I'm ticked off we lost today as anyone but nothing has changed as far as judging where we are at.

The funny thing is we could win our next 2-3 games in a row and be back in the hunt and hopes will be raised again. Likewise we will probably have another 'bad' loss along the way and we'll all be drawing our sorrows like right now. It's going to be one of those years and not unexpected from a young team. Very often young teams have the frustrating pre-year before the step up to become a finals side the following year. Anyway finishing 10-11th this year gets us a top 10 pick; Port's crapness means we'll get a early-mid 20 compo pick and probably another around 30 (normal 2nd round); then add a free agent who can walk into the side next year. Enables us to offload list cloggers and pushes most of our current bottom 6 out of the side to just fringe players/list cloggers. It's an evolving process as is development within our young cubs. As supporters we need to be patient even though that word ticks most of us off after 30 years of mediocrity.

your very right once again MT.

But I do sit back and wonder why clubs like the bombers never have the same struggle just to make finals as we seem to year after year.
We wear our Richmond love on our sleaves and we are proud supporters but you have to admit it peees you off when people laugh when you tell them you barrack for the Tigers, then you hear them say, "ohhh I like Richmond, they'll get there one day".
Gives me the poos. But that's what we've become.
 

Essendon prior to this year had been crap for a decade. They fell into finals twice under Knighter with sub-par seasons and duly got annihilated in the first week of finals both times. They are a good side this year but you've got to note it's easier to make the finals when you've only played three top 8 sides so far. They've lost, granted narrowly, two of those 3. Compare that to us who have played all eight top 8 sides for a 3-5 record and 4 of those loses were narrow (we were in front at some stage in the last qtr). The draw is unfair but what can you do. The thing for us is not to lose against the bottom 10 sides which we play more of on the run home (which is why the Freo game was our worst lost for the year so far). It's those slip ups that cost finals spots.   

[Hellenic Tiger]

What pees me off about the club is this,

Every year in recent history when the season is hot and there for us to make a mark we kind of do but once we reach a certain level of finance or membership everything on field drains away.

Case in point FTF game last year against Carlton.

This year 50K members reached week after St Kilda game and the FTF gets to 5.5 million and since then poo.

Now RFC, I love you but sooner or later you HAVE TO, MUST WITHOUT A QUESTION OF DOUBT turn this skata around and get some bloody success because the people that love you may just start walking away the same way they did in the 80's 90's 00's and that is going to help noone.

Have to learn to win these games otherwise what's the point of it all.

Please we are a young group don't get into usual habits and accept failure and mediocrity because it is easier than hard work and success. All you have to do is look at the Sydney and Hawthorn games from last month and emulate that and you will be fine.

[the claw]

okay lets look at it with a bit of honesty. to be honest i dont think we will  make the 8 for lots of small reasons.

but can we make the 8?  tough gig now but you bet ya. again injury is the key stay healthy  and who knows.

the draw says.
melb 60/40 win.
gcs 70/30 win
nm  50/50 hopefully win.
ca 40/60 loss but they may have nothing to play for by then. so who knows. would be great if we do nothing else all yr but be the ones who knock em out of contention.
br 50/50 have us down for a win here but its no monty.
wb 60/40
fr 40/60 tough ask in perth.
ess 35/65 loss imo. but it should be competetive.
pa 60/40 should win at home.

4 definates, two 50/50, 3 losses.
imo the  ca or freo game  is the crunch games win one of these and we are a real chance.

one thing for sure this yr is a sucess make finals or not. we have been in every game we have played and look like being in every game we play from here on in. there has not been any hidings and clear improvement in system and in players has occured. reckon 11 wins is likely and every single tiger supporter i know would have taken that in a heart beat at the start of the yr.

my greatest concern with 11 wins is we dont continue to cut. we have been at this point several times in our recent past and every time we have taken the wrong stuff in the road. we have to acknowledge the list is nowhere near good enough and actively take part in the nd and turn plenty of players over.



geez this yr  i dont think ive ever been truly disappointed with the tiges apart from this week. before the game i placed a bet on them  and when we went in 35 points up at q time i thought rightio.

[rfctigers05]

I agree Connors Miller and Houli should never be seen in a tiger Guernsey again
They are let Plodders with limited ability
I blame Hardwick for today's loss for playing these types of players lumps alcoholics or turnover kings
If b Gale was on the money he would of got Malthouse and cleared out Baby face Dimmer
No other club would ever put Miller or Connors in their team but Dimmer seems to find room for them
How does Tabouli get in the team before Reece Lightning Conca?
Tabouli and Newman can't make tackles stick yet they get games
We're unprofessional and we need to make Chimp Cotchin captain and get rid of all our sad recent history
Pick 55 captaining our club with 200 games and never played in a final
We are an embarrassment to ourselves let alone the football fraternity
Dimmer get fair dinkum  or get out otherwise you'll be anther Spud and Terry saga
I've had enough honorable losses for three decades
These losses are really DIShonourable because you stuff it up in the selection room every time in crunch games
You're dishonest to the tiger fans and stakeholders so wipe that smile of your face and increase your professionalism because enough is enough

[rogerd3]

geez some need to take a good dose
of reality pills.

rebuilds dont happen overnight
especially in the case of this club
and the amount of work to be even
where it is now.

3rd youngest list with potential lots
of potential..

this was never gonna be easy get
 a grip people and enjoy the ride.

[tony_montana]

It's part of the culture, essendon have been poo for 8-9 yrs but they still somehow make finals, now with a team that last year was arguably low on talent, they are flying, yeah yeah the draw is soft, but fact is they have had some serious injuries, and those losses could have easily been wins.

There is a clear difference in club culture, our stinks there is no other way to put it. There is a serious issue here bc each and every time we come to that moment of crescendo in a season where it's on a knife edge and can go either way, we always capitulate, we never make a stand and say stuff you, this time we don't buckle. I'm in awe and gobsmacked at how much
Patience some of you blokes have, time is running out ffs, every year we allow this club to buy a bit more time. Enough! They clearly ave the capacity to play competitive football this year, don't just sweep it under the carpet and say next year for sure, what happens if next year cotch or lids do a knee, what if we have a bad run with injury, will we say "next year 2014, bc we had injuries" in footy you have to grasp your chances bc they may not come round again.

Stop being mediocre and stuffing stand up and make us proud FOR ONCE IN 10 years and for the 3rd time in 30