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Offline Chuck17

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1455 on: July 07, 2014, 02:04:49 PM »
Robbo on Miles ...

8. Anthony Miles.

Seriously, how did Miles not get a game for so long
? In his five games with the Tigers, he has returned 19, 30, 28, 27 and 24 disposals and not laid under four tackles a game. In a season of lost hope, Miles is giving Tigers fans some joy.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/breaking-news/mark-robinson-says-brian-lake-deserves-lengthy-suspension-for-choker-hold-on-norths-drew-petrie/story-fnect155-1226979583942

Like seriously

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1456 on: July 07, 2014, 07:24:31 PM »
FFS, even Robbo can see it.  :banghead
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1457 on: July 07, 2014, 08:03:39 PM »
FFS, even Robbo can see it.  :banghead

after the fact, but nevertheless  :banghead

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1458 on: July 08, 2014, 08:39:47 AM »
Lol at Ricky lettersggiving interviews on regards to rRichmond recruiting strategy

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1459 on: July 08, 2014, 01:40:01 PM »
Ross Lyon: Injuries are no excuse...

Damien Hardwick: Oh look injuries have hurt us, really missed Rance & Lids...

Brendon McCartney on starting Jackson Macrae who averages 25 possessions a game as sub: Lucky to keep his spot. There are possessions and there is team accountability and there is defensive decision making that doesn't overload your teammates that you should make at the right time.
 
Possessions are important but not at the expense of how our team functions.



Damien Hardwick: Oh look, Griggy's an important part of the side, gives us that run, involed in X amount scoring chains blah blah blah...Oh look Brandon's been great for us this year.... .


Ross Lyon: Gets stuck into Barlow on the field for a turnover on full time in the derby that cost a goal in a game that was already won.

Damien Hardwick : Smiling & backslapping after we scrapped our way to or second win of the season in round 5 a win over then last-placed Brisbane up at the Gabba.


Ken Hinkley: Shoos his star player Chad Wingard away from the bench and forces him to stay on the ground to teach him the level of endurance required at AFL Level

Damien Hardwick: Oh look we probably should've played Dusty at half-back to start with....



Brendan McCartney: Just wants Bontempelli to concentrate on his football and not be pushed into the spotlight.

RFC: Makes Brandon Ellis the face of the club before he's 21.


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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1460 on: July 08, 2014, 05:15:13 PM »
Hardwick has no standards.

Has favourites!

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Two roads next year.

1st road: make finals, highly unlikely.

2nd road: Hardwick SACKED.

Will be good either way for the club.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1461 on: July 08, 2014, 07:19:08 PM »
Seriously sacking Hardwick is not the answer... It's not the coach it's the players - Tony Jewell won a premiership with a side that eclipsed all others around them not because TJ was a good coach (he wasn't) but because we had a great list...

Our list now is well below par - we have way too many B & C-grade players and no A-graders (you heard me none)...
Cotchin - is a good player but not an A-grader (he disappears too much and never grabs the game by the scruff of the neck and take control)
Deledio - is an above average player that is too easily tagged out of the game - if he was an A-grader he would have learnt by now how to break the tag (he had all the skills and abilities to become a great - but he has never shown enough)
Riewoldt - is capable on his day - but he is never there when we really need him to stand up... (let's face it he ain't his cousin)
Martin - does some nice things but can only play a half of football - when the game gets to the pointy end where is he? (maybe if he increases his endurance but 1/2 a game does not make him an A-grader...

The fact we don't have any A-graders is shown in the fact that Jackson won the medal last year - Dan Jackson is a very good B-grader but should someone with his ability win the Jack Dyer Medal in a year we make finals?

We have way too many B/C-graders who get a game but really don't deserve one: Grigg, Dea, Edwards, Vickery, and half the time Conca. None of these guys put there bodies on the line enough for me and none work hard enough off the ball...

Then we come to the players that fill the list - O'Hanlan, McDonough, Helbig, Batchelor, et.al - they have had enough time and haven't given enough - get rid of them and try someone else...

Our list needs a major revamp

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1462 on: July 08, 2014, 08:04:05 PM »
Rance is easy 'A' grade

Mcdonuts has played 1.5 seasons and killed it on the weekend

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1463 on: July 08, 2014, 08:15:31 PM »
Seriously sacking Hardwick is not the answer... It's not the coach it's the players

But isn't that the point?

Hardwick has had 5 years to build it and he has stuffed it. If the players are no good the buck stops with him and the rest of the football department that a new coach will replace.

Or should we charge a man who has just demonstrated he couldn't do the job with another 5 years to try?
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1464 on: July 08, 2014, 08:44:21 PM »
Seriously sacking Hardwick is not the answer... It's not the coach it's the players

But isn't that the point?

Hardwick has had 5 years to build it and he has stuffed it. If the players are no good the buck stops with him and the rest of the football department that a new coach will replace.

Or should we charge a man who has just demonstrated he couldn't do the job with another 5 years to try?

10 year plans at Richmond.Hmmm. Finals on average once every 25 years. :help

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1465 on: July 08, 2014, 09:47:38 PM »
Seriously sacking Hardwick is not the answer... It's not the coach it's the players - Tony Jewell won a premiership with a side that eclipsed all others around them not because TJ was a good coach (he wasn't) but because we had a great list...

Our list now is well below par - we have way too many B & C-grade players and no A-graders (you heard me none)...
Cotchin - is a good player but not an A-grader (he disappears too much and never grabs the game by the scruff of the neck and take control)
Deledio - is an above average player that is too easily tagged out of the game - if he was an A-grader he would have learnt by now how to break the tag (he had all the skills and abilities to become a great - but he has never shown enough)
Riewoldt - is capable on his day - but he is never there when we really need him to stand up... (let's face it he ain't his cousin)
Martin - does some nice things but can only play a half of football - when the game gets to the pointy end where is he? (maybe if he increases his endurance but 1/2 a game does not make him an A-grader...

The fact we don't have any A-graders is shown in the fact that Jackson won the medal last year - Dan Jackson is a very good B-grader but should someone with his ability win the Jack Dyer Medal in a year we make finals?

We have way too many B/C-graders who get a game but really don't deserve one: Grigg, Dea, Edwards, Vickery, and half the time Conca. None of these guys put there bodies on the line enough for me and none work hard enough off the ball...

Then we come to the players that fill the list - O'Hanlan, McDonough, Helbig, Batchelor, et.al - they have had enough time and haven't given enough - get rid of them and try someone else...

Our list needs a major revamp
Almost the same players won 15 games last year.  Do you suggest that all the wins were flukes?

The list is not as bad as people say. Sure we need a few more good players and we have our fair share of duds, but most teams can say that.  I feel that our biggest problem this year is the WAY we play football.  Our work rate is way down on last year.  Our system has changed leading to slow ball movement and therefore an inability to score.  Our entry inside 50 is one of the worst in the league. That is probably the most important kick in footy and we butcher it towards the boundary and pockets time and time again making it easy for opposition backs and making it difficult for us to kick a winning score or even just put score board pressure on the opposition.  We also lack true leg speed to break a game open and that is where losing Matty White has hurt us.
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1466 on: July 08, 2014, 10:37:42 PM »
I just watched the Lions game again.  :banghead
If you don't think the coach is to blame I feel sorry for you.
The way he has us playing is putrid.
There was a couple of minutes to go in the third quarter and Dan Jackson did what he has been told to do and kick it to the boundary from the 50 line, giving our forwards near no chance of kicking a goal. Must of happened 3 times in 2 minutes. Just ridiculas.
Not to mention the slow kicking sideways and backwards we do continually.
A decent coach would have the list playing finals IMO.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1467 on: July 08, 2014, 10:49:22 PM »
There was a couple of minutes to go in the third quarter and Dan Jackson did what he has been told to do and kick it to the boundary from the 50 line, giving our forwards near no chance of kicking a goal. Must of happened 3 times in 2 minutes. Just ridiculas.
Not to mention the slow kicking sideways and backwards we do continually.

Hardwick's game plan:

1) Win clearance
2) handball 4 times and allow opponents to build pressure on you
3) guy who takes the 4th handball blindly kicks defensively towards boundary to relieve pressure
repeat

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1468 on: July 08, 2014, 11:18:05 PM »
Seriously sacking Hardwick is not the answer... It's not the coach it's the players - Tony Jewell won a premiership with a side that eclipsed all others around them not because TJ was a good coach (he wasn't) but because we had a great list...

Our list now is well below par - we have way too many B & C-grade players and no A-graders (you heard me none)...
Cotchin - is a good player but not an A-grader (he disappears too much and never grabs the game by the scruff of the neck and take control)
Deledio - is an above average player that is too easily tagged out of the game - if he was an A-grader he would have learnt by now how to break the tag (he had all the skills and abilities to become a great - but he has never shown enough)
Riewoldt - is capable on his day - but he is never there when we really need him to stand up... (let's face it he ain't his cousin)
Martin - does some nice things but can only play a half of football - when the game gets to the pointy end where is he? (maybe if he increases his endurance but 1/2 a game does not make him an A-grader...

The fact we don't have any A-graders is shown in the fact that Jackson won the medal last year - Dan Jackson is a very good B-grader but should someone with his ability win the Jack Dyer Medal in a year we make finals?

We have way too many B/C-graders who get a game but really don't deserve one: Grigg, Dea, Edwards, Vickery, and half the time Conca. None of these guys put there bodies on the line enough for me and none work hard enough off the ball...

Then we come to the players that fill the list - O'Hanlan, McDonough, Helbig, Batchelor, et.al - they have had enough time and haven't given enough - get rid of them and try someone else...

Our list needs a major revamp

Wait wait wait. Jackson is a "very good B-grader" but we have no A graders? Does that mean you rate Jackson on par with Martin, Lids, Cotch, Jack, Rance?

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #1469 on: July 08, 2014, 11:20:04 PM »
The only relevent question the club needs to ask itself here is do we believe Hardwick can take us to a flag? If the answer is no then why continue wasting our time with him? Just to save money is not a good enough reason. Keeping him might well end up costing the club more in the long run anyway.
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FJ is the only one that makes sense.