i've put my arguments forward already and backed it up with real life facts.
your bum stuffed theories dont count counter this.
but basically if you cant kick more than 100 points per game you struggle to win premierships.
hawthorn last three years. 2452, most in the league, 2454, most in the league 2523, most in the league.
and you want to compare that with lyon coached teams, none of which have won a premiership?
I know which id prefer