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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2625 on: October 12, 2015, 09:25:33 PM »
Quote from: Stalin on October 12, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
Saints DREW a grand final

And you are arguing

There is "nearly no chance", it's possible he can win one

Maybe you new a lie down ?

Saints bottom 6 cost him a GF in 2009/10. Hence why he left in 2011 when he eloped to Freo.
Without them he may have gone back to back and had a show in 11 and 12 also given he had more quality in the bottom 6-8 of his 22 and the top end talent at his disposal.

Would barely do better with us given our bottom 6.

Model is Hawthorn. They have depth and culture. Lose a bloke like Suckling replace him with Hartung.
Hale retires Ceglar ready made replacement.
Lake goes Shoenmakers easily can fill the void.

If anything our scoring will diminish further under Lyon and our bottom 6 will be our Achilles heel.
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2626 on: October 12, 2015, 09:26:33 PM »
Quote from: Hard Roar Tiger on October 12, 2015, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Stalin on October 12, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
Saints DREW a grand final

And you are arguing

There is "nearly no chance", it's possible he can win one

Maybe you new a lie down ?

Stalin,

Do you think Ross Lyon has a more or less relevant game plan and selection strategy today vs 2010 (or even 2012)?
Also, why is his coaching record diminishing in finals series since 2012?


Freo finished first, on premiership points

So ,  i think it's fair to conclude, lyon still has some idea
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 10:03:29 PM by Stalin »
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2627 on: October 12, 2015, 09:29:28 PM »
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on October 12, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Don Fistiki on October 12, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck17 on October 12, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
I think you both are forgetting what Lyon can bring to the table though, boring defense oriented football

Lyon can also bring entertaining post match pressers. Does that make any sense? ;D
Although he doesn't talk about his performance between the sheets like Dimma does! :snidegrin

Maybe because he is a Lyon by name a lion by nature and lyin by definition.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2628 on: October 12, 2015, 09:31:01 PM »
Quote from: Don Fistiki on October 12, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Stalin on October 12, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
Saints DREW a grand final

And you are arguing

There is "nearly no chance", it's possible he can win one

Maybe you new a lie down ?



Would barely do better with us given our bottom 6.

If anything our scoring will diminish further under Lyon and our bottom 6 will be our Achilles heel.

Would lyon have played Newman. Grigg. Chaplin. Hampson?

It's not like our scoring is like bayern Munich currently . I doubt we'd kick many less goals

Would richmonds defence improve under Lyon?


The weakest handful of players in the 22 are already the bulk of the problem. So on that front, it'd be no different in regard to what your sayin 
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2629 on: October 12, 2015, 09:31:47 PM »
Quote from: Don Fistiki on October 12, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on October 12, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Don Fistiki on October 12, 2015, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: Chuck17 on October 12, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
I think you both are forgetting what Lyon can bring to the table though, boring defense oriented football

Lyon can also bring entertaining post match pressers. Does that make any sense? ;D
Although he doesn't talk about his performance between the sheets like Dimma does! :snidegrin

Maybe because he is a Lyon by name a lion by nature and lyin by definition.


Now that would be an almighty hickey!
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2630 on: October 12, 2015, 09:46:38 PM »
Are you like the wisecracking uncle in your family at Christmas?
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2631 on: October 12, 2015, 09:52:26 PM »
Quote from: Diocletian on October 12, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Are you like the wisecracking uncle in your family at Christmas?
Nah. That's WAT. ;D
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2632 on: October 12, 2015, 09:55:36 PM »
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on October 12, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: Diocletian on October 12, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
Are you like the wisecracking uncle in your family at Christmas?
Nah. That's WAT. ;D

Classic one liners. ;D
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2633 on: October 12, 2015, 10:25:56 PM »
Quote from: Stalin on October 12, 2015, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: Hard Roar Tiger on October 12, 2015, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Stalin on October 12, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
Saints DREW a grand final

And you are arguing

There is "nearly no chance", it's possible he can win one

Maybe you new a lie down ?

Stalin,

Do you think Ross Lyon has a more or less relevant game plan and selection strategy today vs 2010 (or even 2012)?
Also, why is his coaching record diminishing in finals series since 2012?


Freo finished first, on premiership points

So ,  i think it's fair to conclude, lyon still has some idea

Lyon finished 1st H&A and then finished 3rd.
Dimma finished 5th H&A and then finished 7th.
Both have struggled to win when it counts in recent times.
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2634 on: October 13, 2015, 06:41:48 AM »
Well, that's one way to look at it
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2635 on: October 13, 2015, 07:11:53 AM »
I think Lyon is a good coach but his team has a huge home ground advantage for all but 2 games during the H&A season.....
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2636 on: October 13, 2015, 07:32:58 AM »
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on October 13, 2015, 07:11:53 AM
I think Lyon is a good coach but his team has a huge home ground advantage for all but 2 games during the H&A season.....
And yet our coach can take a team over there and win.
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2637 on: October 13, 2015, 01:23:44 PM »
They also have to travel every second week.

Lyon has actually overachieved with his sides IMO. Had St.Kilda punching way above their weight and Fremantle are carried by half a dozen stars and a freak of a ruckman - the rest are just foot soldiers and few are downright hacks. Talent-wise, their list balance is not much better than ours....if anything we have more young talent coming through...
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2638 on: October 13, 2015, 01:38:14 PM »
was talking about this exact thing on GF day. The guy is a gun to do what he has with those lists. Imagine if he had a forward like a straight kicking cloke or jack.

Dawson. come on please
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #2639 on: October 13, 2015, 01:58:00 PM »
...or nick reiwoltd
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