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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #915 on: April 27, 2014, 11:03:17 PM »
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #916 on: April 27, 2014, 11:04:24 PM »
Port Adelaide under Hinkley want RESPECT!

What does Hardwick want???
An extension to his extension?
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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #917 on: April 28, 2014, 12:05:11 PM »
Port Adelaide under Hinkley want RESPECT!

What does Hardwick want???
An extension to his extension?

Keep his pet players happy?

Stop being a mate Dimma and get serious, these blokes are burning you

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #918 on: April 28, 2014, 01:21:24 PM »
Port Adelaide under Hinkley want RESPECT!

What does Hardwick want???
A job

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #919 on: April 28, 2014, 01:48:11 PM »
Port Adelaide under Hinkley want RESPECT!

What does Hardwick want???

Dimma is a good man don't worry about that.
Unfortunately we don't have the players to do the jobs he wants.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #920 on: April 28, 2014, 01:53:06 PM »
You reckon he's a good coach, Magic Man?

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #921 on: April 28, 2014, 02:31:19 PM »
You reckon he's a good coach, Magic Man?

In some ways, not in others.

Think he's a reasonably good motivator who til now at least has had the respect of the players.

I do wonder about his flexibility and creativity when things are less than perfect though.
Think he has copied the Clarkson model as he really believes in it but now must realise that we don't have the personnel to carry it out..
So then what?
 
It can work because we have played some spurts of fantastic football under him but ultimately you either have the personal or you don't.
When we don't I'm not sure he has a plan B or C to counter it.

Does that make him a one trick pony? Perhaps.

Might be time for a change there but I'd look to improve the playing list dramatically first. If that doesn't work then he'll be out the door.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #922 on: April 28, 2014, 02:39:23 PM »
I actually think we have some of the cattle to do it. We just aren't willing to give games to kids whilst our better players are out injured. We also haven't made some harsh calls because we didn't feed games to kids. Yes, it was nice playing finals last year but at what cost? Same as 2001?

Play the kids for now. Get some good players back and see what happens. Some kids will make it, some will be good enough as depth (can kick the ball and fit the game style but ultimately not best 22) and some will flunk. But make the calls. If we miss finals then so be it. We get access to a potential star player (maybe 2 with a pick in the mid 20's) and we move on. If we want mature bodies either get guys that can kick and fit the style we want or go to the VFL/WAFL/SANFL to get blokes who can kick.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #923 on: April 28, 2014, 02:41:23 PM »
I actually think we have some of the cattle to do it. We just aren't willing to give games to kids whilst our better players are out injured. We also haven't made some harsh calls because we didn't feed games to kids. Yes, it was nice playing finals last year but at what cost? Same as 2001?

Play the kids for now. Get some good players back and see what happens. Some kids will make it, some will be good enough as depth (can kick the ball and fit the game style but ultimately not best 22) and some will flunk. But make the calls. If we miss finals then so be it. We get access to a potential star player (maybe 2 with a pick in the mid 20's) and we move on. If we want mature bodies either get guys that can kick and fit the style we want or go to the VFL/WAFL/SANFL to get blokes who can kick.

I have no doubt that time is coming if you heard Dimma's comments re Lennon in the presser.
Delusion has quickly been slapped in the face by reality.
With finals unlikely or even if we make it, a flag this year impossible, I expect several changes are afoot.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #924 on: April 28, 2014, 03:06:06 PM »
I actually think we have some of the cattle to do it. We just aren't willing to give games to kids whilst our better players are out injured. We also haven't made some harsh calls because we didn't feed games to kids. Yes, it was nice playing finals last year but at what cost? Same as 2001?

Play the kids for now. Get some good players back and see what happens. Some kids will make it, some will be good enough as depth (can kick the ball and fit the game style but ultimately not best 22) and some will flunk. But make the calls. If we miss finals then so be it. We get access to a potential star player (maybe 2 with a pick in the mid 20's) and we move on. If we want mature bodies either get guys that can kick and fit the style we want or go to the VFL/WAFL/SANFL to get blokes who can kick.

I have no doubt that time is coming if you heard Dimma's comments re Lennon in the presser.
Delusion has quickly been slapped in the face by reality.
With finals unlikely or even if we make it, a flag this year impossible, I expect several changes are afoot.
Yeah I heard that. It's about time he caught on. 

We need a clean out. We keep players too long and then just take the mandatory 3 picks.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #925 on: April 28, 2014, 03:55:42 PM »
Hardwick has to go. 

Deledio and Tuck have carried this club for years.  With Tucks retirement and Deledio's inury, the coach and his unwavering support for very ordinary footballers and a non-existent game plan have finally been exposed.  We had a dream draw last year and we lost to the 9th placed team.  The cracks have been there to see for years now.  Unfortunately painting over them does not make them go away.  If it did, this club would have won 10 premierships in the last 30 years.

We didn't win the ball on the weekend.  There was no run. There was no contest.  There was no spirit.  Our backline was bereft.  Our midfield was hesitant, defensive in attack but not in defense.  Our forward line.  Who knows how our forward line was, with the ball moving so slowly, it was never a fair contest for our forwards.

You only need to look at Hinkley to see what a difference a real coach can make to a football club and it doesn't take 5 years.  We have the talent to be a top 8 side. We play like a bottom 4 side.  There can be no greater indictment on the coach than this.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #926 on: April 28, 2014, 04:00:44 PM »
you gonna sell your house and donate $1 million to pay him out unplugged? Coz thats the minimum payout to sack him, although It could be $1.5 million. So if businessmen want to front up with the cash Im happy to support change, but we didnt all give money to the club so they can pee it up the wall in termination payments to coaches.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #927 on: April 28, 2014, 04:54:55 PM »
you gonna sell your house and donate $1 million to pay him out unplugged? Coz thats the minimum payout to sack him, although It could be $1.5 million. So if businessmen want to front up with the cash Im happy to support change, but we didnt all give money to the club so they can pee it up the wall in termination payments to coaches.

Rampstar, I have one expectation when I give my money to the football club.  The RFC will do everything possible to create a successful football club with the purpose of winning a flag.  As long as the club is realistically striving towards this goal, then my money is well spent.  If it isn't, then every dollar spent is and has been "peed up against the wall" as you described it.

We won't be successful under Hardwick.  Five years has proven that beyond reasonable doubt.  Its time to cut our losses and find someone who can take us forward.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #928 on: April 28, 2014, 04:57:28 PM »
Hardwick has to go. 

Deledio and Tuck have carried this club for years.  With Tucks retirement and Deledio's inury, the coach and his unwavering support for very ordinary footballers and a non-existent game plan have finally been exposed.  We had a dream draw last year and we lost to the 9th placed team.  The cracks have been there to see for years now.  Unfortunately painting over them does not make them go away.  If it did, this club would have won 10 premierships in the last 30 years.

We didn't win the ball on the weekend.  There was no run. There was no contest.  There was no spirit.  Our backline was bereft.  Our midfield was hesitant, defensive in attack but not in defense.  Our forward line.  Who knows how our forward line was, with the ball moving so slowly, it was never a fair contest for our forwards.

You only need to look at Hinkley to see what a difference a real coach can make to a football club and it doesn't take 5 years.  We have the talent to be a top 8 side. We play like a bottom 4 side.  There can be no greater indictment on the coach than this.

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Re: Sack Hardwick
« Reply #929 on: April 28, 2014, 05:14:03 PM »
Hardwick is running out of excuses!

If he has the courage to drop his favourites and play cubs, he can survive.

Though, the issue is the game plan, so you could have anyone in that team and the results would still be bad.

Jack Reiwoldt must get very annoyed taking on 2 or 3 players at every contest.

Hardwick still thinks Sydney's 2005 Premiership style is how you win matches.

He is a very poor match day coach!

Players have lost faith in the game plan. Second guessing, poor decisions.

Daniel Jackson is a favourite too.

He will just win the contested football and that is it.

He is important for Hardwick because he is hard.

Jackson fits Hardwick's game plan!

Vickery should not be playing next week.

NOTHING from Friday suggested he is hurting not playing!

His confidence is shot!

Hardwick said that Vickery needs to work on his defensive game!

Not once did Vickery tackle anyone. He still doesn't jump up for the mark! Flat footed!

Lennon, McDonough should be played! They have flare and dare which we all want to see!

Houli needs to play on the WING!

Grigg needs to be dropped!

Shane Edwards is simple! Play him in the forward pocket and leave him there! If not playing there, drop him!

Petterd, has he hit a target by foot over 15 minutes this year? He is a forward! Play him forward! If not, don't play him!

Chaplin, can't do anything! Drop him!

Hampson, will he get a possession around the ground?

Leave Martin forward and in the midfield!

Morris, his instruction, defend and handball! No kicking!

Hello Newman, goodbye Newman. What does he actually do now?

Conca, let him get the football and create!

Ellis, let him run all day!

Griffiths, kick the football to him!

Sack Mark Williams (Forward Coach), Sack Lade, Sack Hardwick!