LMAO @ Sack Hardwick threads

[the claw]

At the end of the day you have your opinion I have mine

I don't care for nearly making finals or beating swans at the G, for the 3rd year in a row. I want to see them nail Blues or be able to beat sides like Carlton & Geelong who have owned us for 30 yrs. Thats improvement

Ive waited long enough for finals what's another year

I just don't think finals are a monty as some of you lot think

sometimes there is black white and grey.

like you i dont think we will play finals next yr still to much work to be done.
 unlike you i can see the improvement and know it takes yrs to get in a position to challenge.
you constantly fail to acknowledge that playing finals is a gradual process you dont magically flick a switch  and expect it to happen which is what you are saying weather you realise it or not.

it took collingwood after playing in a gf in 2003 7 yrs to win one under malthouse.if you go back to when malthouse first went there you could say it took mick 11 yrs to win a premiership.

also to make a gf in 02 03 mick did it with a list that had a large chunk of it built in the yrs prior to him going to collingwood.
collingwod didnt just magically make gfs under malthouse he was part of a progression where the previous coaches built a big part of those sides. it took yrs.

it may be that the rfc in a couple of yrs bring in a coach to take us into finals but at the moment there has been good improvement right across the board at the club.

mathews didnt magically transform brisbane in two yrs.you could count on one hand the number of players he bought to the 2001 side. brisbanes climb to power started in about  94 they had about 10 of their premiership players back then and gradually built on it. getting a chunk of fitzroys players helped as well when they folded.

sometimes daniel  you need to acknowledge the good and the bad and be realistic about what is achievable with what you have at hand.

[Penelope]

How can anyone say we have improved after what we have seen in the past 4 weeks of football

2011 rdn 15 v carlton result loss 107 points.
rnd 18 v geelong result loss 67 points, our 4th loss by 10 goals or more.

2012 rnd 18 ve carlton rsult loss 4 points. no losses by 10 goals. only loss of more than 4 goals is 7 goal loss rnd 1


in what queer, simpleton world is that not an improvement?

In Simpleton words
A loss is a loss
It's about winning not margins
Your views tick all the boxes for a long term career at Punt rd
No wonder we ain't any good

coming from someone who was at richmond during the dark wallace days, and was cleaned out with the rest of the trash, thats rather funny.

the word improvement means getting better.

not getting beaten by 10 goals is better than regularly getting beaten by 10 goals.

the thing you wont, or are incapable of understanding is exactly what claw has pointed out. it is a gradual process. maybe in the deluded world of jackstar you go from being a basket case to champions in the blink of an eye, or twich of a nose but not in reality

only someone as demented as you could not see that going from a team that regularly gets beaten easily to a team that is generally competitive is not improving.

Only jackstar could think that a 100 point flogging is the same as a 2 point loss.

Were you one of the ones bitching we didn't beat melbourne and GWS by enough?

why are margins not important when you lose, but are when you win?
surely if a loss is a loss, then a win is a win?

or is this just more crapstar contradictions.

[Coach]

Hey Crackstar your on the wrong thread...
This is not the I hate RFC and sack hardwick thread for disgruntled vomits- I suggest you find your mate roy from coburg and both retreat to your niclear fallout shelter.

Cya then, by now

Roy's come to work with Coach. We're on our lunch break. Both munching on Tabouli sent from mrs Houli

[Jackstar is back!!!]

2005=10 wins
2006   11 wins
2007   3 wins
2008   11 wins
2009   5 wins
2010   6 wins
2011 =8.5 wins
2012 =  7 at the moment.

You tell me how we are going ??

Defensively we dont bleed down back as bad as we used to.
but improvement is about winning games
I will take horse racing as a good example, no difference being beaten by 4 lengths compared to 10 lengths , why, you still got beaten.
Sorry, I am all about winning, thats my culture, not about losing
If you want to believe the spin that Hardwick goes on about winning this KPI Blah Blah blah thats good for you
What I have seen for the past months are players such as Grigg, Houli, Ellis not put there head over the ball etc etc
Yep and Dimma stated this in his press conference on Sat Night
And lets dont forget Jack Riewoldt. , cant be bothered even going there, its all about Riewoldt.

What I feel sorry for are the 6-7 players who have CARRIED this club all season.
You have your opinion , I have mine.
What happens if we dont play finals in 2013 ???
Keep in mind that we were $1.22 to play finals 6 weeks ago before Freo, we have fallen in the biggest hole of all times
Who is too blame, ? According to Hardwick the players and himself. , mmmmmm

[Jackstar is back!!!]

By the way.we have won 2 second quarters this year .lost 15
Bet you that doesn't get a mention

[the claw]

2005=10 wins
2006   11 wins
2007   3 wins
2008   11 wins
2009   5 wins
2010   6 wins
2011 =8.5 wins
2012 =  7 at the moment.

You tell me how we are going ??

Defensively we dont bleed down back as bad as we used to.
but improvement is about winning games
I will take horse racing as a good example, no difference being beaten by 4 lengths compared to 10 lengths , why, you still got beaten.
Sorry, I am all about winning, thats my culture, not about losing
If you want to believe the spin that Hardwick goes on about winning this KPI Blah Blah blah thats good for you
What I have seen for the past months are players such as Grigg, Houli, Ellis not put there head over the ball etc etc
Yep and Dimma stated this in his press conference on Sat Night
And lets dont forget Jack Riewoldt. , cant be bothered even going there, its all about Riewoldt.

What I feel sorry for are the 6-7 players who have CARRIED this club all season.
You have your opinion , I have mine.
What happens if we dont play finals in 2013 ???
Keep in mind that we were $1.22 to play finals 6 weeks ago before Freo, we have fallen in the biggest hole of all times
Who is too blame, ? According to Hardwick the players and himself. , mmmmmm

geelong
02  - 9th
03 - 12th
04 - 4th
05 - 5th
06 - 10th
you tell me how they were travelling
07 premiership. for a bloke who supposedly worked at a club you are very ill informed. no wonder you dont work there anymore.the lack of common sense is minboggling.

improved ladder position is about winning more games.
but improvement itself can have nothing to do with win/loss ratio im gobsmacked that you cant grasp such a simple concept.

ive said this before and will go down the path again.lets take the carlton game

lets say we win it. would that  game have reflected  improvement because we won. of course not it was a bloody awful game in so many areas skills, system, quality, intensity you name it it was poor for both teams and there was little to suggest improvement.

yet we played some bloody good footy against coll wce ess and got beat but there was sure signs of continued improvement if you think its all about the win/loss ratio you are kidding yourself in a big way.

[rogerd3]

2005=10 wins
2006   11 wins
2007   3 wins
2008   11 wins
2009   5 wins
2010   6 wins
2011 =8.5 wins
2012 =  7 at the moment.

You tell me how we are going ??

Defensively we dont bleed down back as bad as we used to.
but improvement is about winning games
I will take horse racing as a good example, no difference being beaten by 4 lengths compared to 10 lengths , why, you still got beaten.
Sorry, I am all about winning, thats my culture, not about losing
If you want to believe the spin that Hardwick goes on about winning this KPI Blah Blah blah thats good for you
What I have seen for the past months are players such as Grigg, Houli, Ellis not put there head over the ball etc etc
Yep and Dimma stated this in his press conference on Sat Night
And lets dont forget Jack Riewoldt. , cant be bothered even going there, its all about Riewoldt.

What I feel sorry for are the 6-7 players who have CARRIED this club all season.
You have your opinion , I have mine.
What happens if we dont play finals in 2013 ???
Keep in mind that we were $1.22 to play finals 6 weeks ago before Freo, we have fallen in the biggest hole of all times
Who is too blame, ? According to Hardwick the players and himself. , mmmmmm

geelong
02  - 9th
03 - 12th
04 - 4th
05 - 5th
06 - 10th
you tell me how they were travelling
07 premiership. for a bloke who supposedly worked at a club you are very ill informed. no wonder you dont work there anymore.the lack of common sense is minboggling.

improved ladder position is about winning more games.
but improvement itself can have nothing to do with win/loss ratio im gobsmacked that you cant grasp such a simple concept.

ive said this before and will go down the path again.lets take the carlton game

lets say we win it. would that  game have reflected  improvement because we won. of course not it was a bloody awful game in so many areas skills, system, quality, intensity you name it it was poor for both teams and there was little to suggest improvement.

yet we played some bloody good footy against coll wce ess and got beat but there was sure signs of continued improvement if you think its all about the win/loss ratio you are kidding yourself in a big way.

makes sense to me.

[Coach]

Claw, did you think West Coast would rise from bottom 4 to top 4? I reckon if you were a WC fan you would have been on a forum telling them it would take another 3 years before they could even think of finals.

poo can (and will) change quickly in footy

[Smokey]

How can anyone say we have improved after what we have seen in the past 4 weeks of football

Like this:

"We have improved".

[Francois Jackson]

Claw, did you think West Coast would rise from bottom 4 to top 4? I reckon if you were a WC fan you would have been on a forum telling them it would take another 3 years before they could even think of finals.

poo can (and will) change quickly in footy

exactly

[Jackstar is back!!!]

I ain't talking about Geelong
I am talking about a club that had under performed for the past 30 years
Why compare with Geelong
You should be employed at Punt Road

[Tigermonk]

we aint improved.

we were beaten by a side who had many top players off the oval. Had they been playing we would have been pumped back to the future RAPED

Improvements ? where are they.

Players been given games with no prior form or out for long stints.
l seen more players shirk this year at Richmond than in my lifetime of football.
We are still kicking the ball short.
We still make the same skill errors.
l see more players standing watching at critical stages. King, Rewoldt, Grigg, Houli, Edwards, Martin at times while players like Nahas, Cotchin, Tuck give 2nd & 3rd efforts.
l see top players sitting on the bench in the critical stages of the game.
l see players giving away free kicks that surely have been told by the coach to avoid in previous games. Same culprits.
Our full forward who stands at thew back instead of leading flatout.
Our FF who has 2 players at times, why even go to him we must have a spare player somewhere. Oh thats right we are being caught out changing.
l see players giving away free kick when the ball aint even near them for Geez sake we are rabble
& then to make matter seem even worse, they got Campbell being the runner when he should be controlling his coaching duties.
Not to mention all the strife off the field we wont mention.
what worries me more is Cotchin saying we not doing enough hard work on the track. Bit late now. that crap should be said pre-season & them words he said spells season disaster.
The captain is near meltdown because the players cant get it right.

All l want to see is Hardwick stick fat on being a tuff coach making players earn thier right to play for the jumper.

[Tigermonk]

& 1 more thing the most important.

COBURG needs to go drag someone else down cause we need to get rid of them come seasons end. Why you think they trying to raise all that money

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Thanks Monk
Totally agree
I wonder if other posters on here actually go to games ?
The Jake King issue was horrible when he spectated the contest when Gibbs pushed in front of him at a clearance at the back of the square .

[Tigermonk]

Thanks Monk
Totally agree
I wonder if other posters on here actually go to games ?
The Jake King issue was horrible when he spectated the contest when Gibbs pushed in front of him at a clearance at the back of the square .

l know & everyone knows how much l like Jake King. He is just like anyone who wears the Richmond jumper. If you dont pull ya weight then thep aside & let those who wanna play 4 quarter team football. There are no passengers in team football. Thats why Geelong, Hawthorn & Collingwood play finals & win premierships.