Cotchin's captaincy [merged]

[Tigeritis™©®]

They're all mummy's boys, they cry at the slightest tap. "Mummy, I've got a BooBoo..."

Yesterday Griff & Chappy grazed someone & stared hyperventilating.

I think Valstuin is the only legitimate tough player at our club all others are faker mummy-boys or nancy-boys that are yet to come out of the cupboard.

Vlastuin for captain and play him on ball but give him a few more years and the RFC will soften him up like all the others that have preceded him.

RFC...softening & ruining the careers of players & coaches for 34 years......

[tdy]

Jackson had that mongrel. Pity he retired.

[1980 I Was There]

Morris 

YEAH cos he it the epitome of hard tough footy and it is just what we need.

I don't give a stuff if every player gets weeks on the sidelines as long as they go as hard as nails and wreak havoc while doing it.
FFS gotta do something sooner or later, I'm not doing this shiiiiite for another 30 stuffing years

[Smokey]

Yes but his individual efforts are as insipid as the rest of them.

l'm over his short kicking football. infact l'm over this overuse football style all together.

Yep.  And the mind boggling, gob smacking thing about it is that last year we comprehensively proved it to ourselves that it was a miserable failure and yet here we are 12 months later trying to re-prove the exact same thing.   

[eliminator]

Must sign up Rance. Rance has the attitude this side needs. He is team oriented and does not shirk from a contest.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Morris 

YEAH cos he it the epitome of hard tough footy and it is just what we need.

I don't give a stuff if every player gets weeks on the sidelines as long as they go as hard as nails and wreak havoc while doing it.
FFS gotta do something sooner or later, I'm not doing this shiiiiite for another 30 stuffing years

I agree with toughness. I don't think Morris is tough though I think he's a faker.
Flossy is tough and maybe Rance has shown some toughness recently but all the rest show faux toughness & all of it is cringeworthy.

It all makes me sick. 

[Gigantor]

Yes we are tough and hard at it ,and committed, until of course the heat is put on us

[Zlatan]

No, this isn't the issue ...

No our lack of leadership is a huge issue has been for a fair period of time.

just a reminder:

1   Newman, Chris   256   32yr 11mth      
41   Foley, Nathan   154   29yr 8mth   
20   Maric, Ivan   138   29yr 4mth      
25   Chaplin, Troy   190   29yr 2mth   
15   Knights, Chris   102   28yr 7mth   
19   Thomas, Matt (R)   100   28yr 2mth   
3   Deledio, Brett   216   28yr   18 Apr 1987   
16   Hampson, Shaun   74   27yr 1mth   
6   Grigg, Shaun   130   27yr   19 Apr 1988   
14   Houli, Bachar   120   26yr 11mth   
13   Petterd, Ricky   84   26yr 9mth   
10   Edwards, Shane   157   26yr 6mth   
8   Riewoldt, Jack   163   26yr 6mth   
38   Morris, Steven   70   26yr 4mth   
18   Rance, Alex   113   25yr 7mth   
22   Gordon, Nathan   19   25yr 2mth   
27   Lloyd, Sam   13   25yr 2mth   
9   Cotchin, Trent   137   25yr 1mth   
29   Vickery, Tyrone   88   24yr 11mth   
28   Hunt, Taylor   69   24yr 6mth   
12   Astbury, David   41   24yr 2mth   

everyone else is 23 or younger. Surely we cant expect them to be leaders as of yet? I don't really think we have a young selwood or hodge.

Id argue only Cotchin, Deledio, Maric, Rance, Houli, Edwards, Morris (sort of) shown or have shown any leadership...

some show nothing. some are a joke; Grigg, Chaplin.

leadership is a funny thing as you cannot measure it with stats. but you can see it, like Hodge playing back pockets in grand finals. Or Allan Border captaining

[Zlatan]

Jackson had that mongrel. Pity he retired.

he was poo.

lol @ longing over Jackson, King, etc.

[Chuck17]

Jackson had that mongrel. Pity he retired.

he was poo.

lol @ longing over Jackson, King, etc.

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[JVT]

Not captain material.

[Andyy]

Jackson had that mongrel. Pity he retired.

he was poo.

lol @ longing over Jackson, King, etc.

Wow, the audacity of some of you blokes.

He wasn't poo.

He was a player of limitations, one of which certainly wasn't his attitude to the game and club.

Just like Tuck and King, he persevered and endeavored to improve on his weaknesses, becoming a better player, which culminated in career-best form in 2013 and a deserved Jack Dyer medal.

Look at Tuck - became a premier midfielder in 2012. His disposal was much improved and at 189cm/92kg he was exactly the build of midfielder we're dying for right now. Jackson at 188/90 was of similar ilk. Not a polished player, but the kind of player you need in the engine room.

And what I wouldn't give to have a small forward like King circa 2010-2011 in the team right now, applying genuine tackle pressure and at least hitting the scoreboard every week - instead we have Steve Morris, who actually makes Jake King look All Australian.

It's a shame blokes like these don't have the talent that some other blokes have. Look at Vickery for example. Lots of talent, but no heart, no commitment, no enthusiasm, no desire, no ambition, no effing effort.


You need blokes like this in every team who don't take their weekly opportunities for granted the way some of our cashed-up, highly-talented individuals do...

[🏅Dooks]

No, this isn't the issue ...

No our lack of leadership is a huge issue has been for a fair period of time.

just a reminder:

1   Newman, Chris   256   32yr 11mth      
41   Foley, Nathan   154   29yr 8mth   
20   Maric, Ivan   138   29yr 4mth      
25   Chaplin, Troy   190   29yr 2mth   
15   Knights, Chris   102   28yr 7mth   
19   Thomas, Matt (R)   100   28yr 2mth   
3   Deledio, Brett   216   28yr   18 Apr 1987   
16   Hampson, Shaun   74   27yr 1mth   
6   Grigg, Shaun   130   27yr   19 Apr 1988   
14   Houli, Bachar   120   26yr 11mth   
13   Petterd, Ricky   84   26yr 9mth   
10   Edwards, Shane   157   26yr 6mth   
8   Riewoldt, Jack   163   26yr 6mth   
38   Morris, Steven   70   26yr 4mth   
18   Rance, Alex   113   25yr 7mth   
22   Gordon, Nathan   19   25yr 2mth   
27   Lloyd, Sam   13   25yr 2mth   
9   Cotchin, Trent   137   25yr 1mth   
29   Vickery, Tyrone   88   24yr 11mth   
28   Hunt, Taylor   69   24yr 6mth   
12   Astbury, David   41   24yr 2mth   

everyone else is 23 or younger. Surely we cant expect them to be leaders as of yet? I don't really think we have a young selwood or hodge.

Id argue only Cotchin, Deledio, Maric, Rance, Houli, Edwards, Morris (sort of) shown or have shown any leadership...

some show nothing. some are a joke; Grigg, Chaplin.

leadership is a funny thing as you cannot measure it with stats. but you can see it, like Hodge playing back pockets in grand finals. Or Allan Border captaining

End of 2015:- The axe should be swung on that eldest six. Maybe not Maric. Vickers instead. Maybe trade Deledio. Get a couple of early picks along with our first and second rounder. 4 picks inside the top 25, then 43 and 61.

End of of 2016:- clean out/trade out the Rest. Hampson, grigg, petard, Gordon Lloyd. Throw up Cotchin. 4 picks in the top 25 again

[Zlatan]

No, this isn't the issue ...

No our lack of leadership is a huge issue has been for a fair period of time.

just a reminder:

1   Newman, Chris   256   32yr 11mth      
41   Foley, Nathan   154   29yr 8mth   
20   Maric, Ivan   138   29yr 4mth      
25   Chaplin, Troy   190   29yr 2mth   
15   Knights, Chris   102   28yr 7mth   
19   Thomas, Matt (R)   100   28yr 2mth   
3   Deledio, Brett   216   28yr   18 Apr 1987   
16   Hampson, Shaun   74   27yr 1mth   
6   Grigg, Shaun   130   27yr   19 Apr 1988   
14   Houli, Bachar   120   26yr 11mth   
13   Petterd, Ricky   84   26yr 9mth   
10   Edwards, Shane   157   26yr 6mth   
8   Riewoldt, Jack   163   26yr 6mth   
38   Morris, Steven   70   26yr 4mth   
18   Rance, Alex   113   25yr 7mth   
22   Gordon, Nathan   19   25yr 2mth   
27   Lloyd, Sam   13   25yr 2mth   
9   Cotchin, Trent   137   25yr 1mth   
29   Vickery, Tyrone   88   24yr 11mth   
28   Hunt, Taylor   69   24yr 6mth   
12   Astbury, David   41   24yr 2mth   

everyone else is 23 or younger. Surely we cant expect them to be leaders as of yet? I don't really think we have a young selwood or hodge.

Id argue only Cotchin, Deledio, Maric, Rance, Houli, Edwards, Morris (sort of) shown or have shown any leadership...

some show nothing. some are a joke; Grigg, Chaplin.

leadership is a funny thing as you cannot measure it with stats. but you can see it, like Hodge playing back pockets in grand finals. Or Allan Border captaining

End of 2015:- The axe should be swung on that eldest six. Maybe not Maric. Vickers instead. Maybe trade Deledio. Get a couple of early picks along with our first and second rounder. 4 picks inside the top 25, then 43 and 61.

End of of 2016:- clean out/trade out the Rest. Hampson, grigg, petard, Gordon Lloyd. Throw up Cotchin. 4 picks in the top 25 again

i cant do another year of grigg

[Diocletian]

Jackson had that mongrel. Pity he retired.

he was poo.

lol @ longing over Jackson, King, etc.

Wow, the audacity of some of you blokes.

He wasn't poo.

He was a player of limitations, one of which certainly wasn't his attitude to the game and club.

Just like Tuck and King, he persevered and endeavored to improve on his weaknesses, becoming a better player, which culminated in career-best form in 2013 and a deserved Jack Dyer medal.

Look at Tuck - became a premier midfielder in 2012. His disposal was much improved and at 189cm/92kg he was exactly the build of midfielder we're dying for right now. Jackson at 188/90 was of similar ilk. Not a polished player, but the kind of player you need in the engine room.

And what I wouldn't give to have a small forward like King circa 2010-2011 in the team right now, applying genuine tackle pressure and at least hitting the scoreboard every week - instead we have Steve Morris, who actually makes Jake King look All Australian.

It's a shame blokes like these don't have the talent that some other blokes have. Look at Vickery for example. Lots of talent, but no heart, no commitment, no enthusiasm, no desire, no ambition, no effing effort.


You need blokes like this in every team who don't take their weekly opportunities for granted the way some of our cashed-up, highly-talented individuals do...

Hackson was arse - the last kind of player you want as captain is a momentum killer.

Wouldn't have minded King as captain....can imagine him at least firing up the side and being antagonistic towards the opposition...a bit like Tony Shaw minus the talent....