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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2160 on: September 01, 2013, 08:26:14 PM »
Is hird allowed to go to the club?
He should be barred from windy hill altogether.

And any AFL venues.
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2161 on: September 01, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
In troubled times, Watson turns turn to the verve:-

All this talk of getting old
It's getting me down James
Like paint sprayed into a glad-bag, waiting to be chromed
That bag is getting owned

And I hope you're thinking of me
As you lay down on your Toorak nape
Now the drugs don't work
They just make you worse
But I know I'll see your face again

Now the drugs don't work
They just make you worse
But I know I'll see your face again

But I know I'm on a losing streak
'Cause I passed down my old street
And if you wanna show, then just let me know
And I'll sing in your ear again

Now the drugs don't work
They just make you worse
But I know I'll see your face again

'Cause baby, ooh, if WADA calls, I'm coming, too
Just like you said, you leave my life, I'm better off dead

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If Damian Barrett had a brain
Then its made of sh#t" Dont Argue - 2/8/2018

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2162 on: September 01, 2013, 10:19:10 PM »
Is hird allowed to go to the club?
He should be barred from windy hill altogether.

And any AFL venues.

Should have copped 5 years with a suspended sentence. Second time he has brought the game into disrepute.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2163 on: September 03, 2013, 01:47:23 AM »
Caro didn't hold back on Paul Little and Essendon last night :yep...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_fuI3mTM9A&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJYYPpv-_WUCwMu_4vqzvrA

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2164 on: September 04, 2013, 05:36:34 PM »
long, long time ago
I can still remember how Shane Charters used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make my players dance
And maybe they'd be stronger for a while

But 2013 made me shiver
With every paper that was delivered
Barratt on my doorstep
I couldn't take one more step

I can't remember if I cried
When I read about how they proved I lied
But something touched me deep inside
The day my fiction, died

[Chorus]

So bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, and built up our pride
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "No-one will ever know that we lied
No-one will ever know that we lied"

[Verse 1]

Did you write the book of push & shove
And do you have faith in Demetriou above
If the AFL tells you so?
Now do you believe in 9604,
And how drugs save your football soul
And can you teach me how to inject real slow?

Well, you know that I was in love with Dank
Since I saw him injectin’ out the back
We both beefed up our tans
To show off to all our fans

I was a lonely rookie coachin' buck
With a Brownlow medal and a million bucks
But I knew I was out of luck
The day they found I lied

[Chorus]

I started singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Hope they never find out we lied
Hope they never find out we lied"

[Verse 2]

Now for ten games we've been out on our own
With hidden texts on my mobile phone
But that's not how it used to be
When the rumours came that we weren’t clean
When in truth we were as high as James Dean
“But the drugs came from Dank, not me”

And while me, the king, was counting cash
ASADA found my hidden stash
The courtroom was adjourned
Until the ASADA verdict was returned

And while Sam Newman read a book from FARC
The media stakeout in the park
And we injected in the dark
The day our dreams died

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but no-one knew why
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Do you think that the media has spied?
Do you think that the media has spied?"

[Verse 3]

Helter skelter in a winter swelter
The wheels fell off in another belter
Eighth place now and falling fast
Another player lying on the grass
A hamstring sprung trying a short pass
Another player on the sidelines in a cast

Now the premiership air is sweet perfume
While Meatloaf sings an awful tune
We’d all love the September dance
Oh, but we’ll never get the chance

'Cause if the players try to take the field
Will ASADA refuse to yield?
Will we ever really know what was revealed
The day my dream died?

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then David Evans cried
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide
ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide."

Oh, and there we were all in one place
An entire season lost in space
With no chance left to start again
So come on, Jobe be nimble, Jobe be quick
Watson sat “On the Couch” real quick
('Cause Roosy is the Demon’s only friend)

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Roosy spell

And as the ratings climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Roosy laughing with delight
That’s when, they knew, I lied

[Chorus]

He was singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but our success was a lie
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Now our premiership dreams are fried
Now our premiership dreams are fried "

I asked my girl who hates the Blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the AFL store
Where they all loved me years before
But the man there said that finals, we wouldn't play

And in Bay 13, the Bombers screamed
The Magpies cried and the Hawks all dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The servers all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Demetriou, The Dank and the Charters Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day they’d found I’d lied

And they were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied
About ever having seen a peptide”

[Chorus]

They were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied”
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2165 on: September 05, 2013, 08:34:49 AM »
 :lol    :rollin    :lol

That is top shelf comedy gold!   :clapping :clapping :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2166 on: September 05, 2013, 12:47:17 PM »
ESSENDON DOCTOR 'DENIED NATURAL JUSTICE'

Essendon doctor Bruce Reid says he was denied natural justice and an unbiased hearing when charged by the AFL over the club's controversial supplements program.

Dr Reid has taken the league to the Victorian Supreme Court, seeking an independent panel to hear his charge of bringing the sport into disrepute.

Dr Reid's barrister Ross Gillies QC told the court that the AFL Commission had failed in their obligation to give him natural justice and a hearing without bias.

Mr Gillies said the commission was effectively the investigator, prosecutor, judge and jury in the case against Essendon.

"It is conduct which we say is completely inconsistent with their role as independent arbiters," he told the court during a directions hearing on Thursday.

Justice David Beach asked AFL barrister Jeff Gleeson SC why the commission would not simply allow an independent body to hear the case.

Mr Gleeson said the commission took its role of upholding the AFL's rules seriously.

"It is with a heavy heart they feel the obligation of hearing whether there has been any breach of the rules," he said.

"If they jumped at that shadow every time someone made enough noise, they feel they would not be doing their job."

After two days of negotiations, the AFL Commission last month kicked Essendon out of this season's AFL finals, fined the club $2 million and docked them draft picks over their 2012 supplements program.

In addition it suspended coach James Hird for 12 months, banned football manager Danny Corcoran for four months and fined assistant coach Mark Thompson $30,000.

But Dr Reid held out and opted to take his case to court.

Mr Gillies said Essendon's official settlement of the charges with the AFL made it clear that Dr Reid was not involved in the supplements program.

"Essendon Football Club admit to failing to involve any of its key medical staff in its supplements program," he said.

"(Dr Reid's) case is that he was marginalised and that what was happening was going on without his knowledge."

Mr Gillies said the settlement was not fair as it included admissions by the club which were not accepted by Dr Reid.

"It is the equivalent of being led through Federation Square in chains, moaning an apology," he said.

Mr Gleeson said the commission had played no part in the investigation of Essendon.

"The evidence will quite clearly show that the nine commissioners, let alone the sub-committee, had nothing to do with the investigation or the drafting of the charges," he said.

He said Dr Reid had made serious allegations of bias without proof.

"It is not enough to say someone said something to a journalist," he said.

The case will be heard in full on September 19.

Mr Gillies said it would be pointless trying to mediate a settlement in the meantime.

"We have spent days speaking to this organisation fruitlessly," he told the court.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18791840/essendon-doctor-denied-natural-justice/

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2167 on: September 05, 2013, 03:59:33 PM »
Yes very good y&b. Very clever indeed  :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2168 on: September 06, 2013, 05:50:34 AM »
AFL Players Association says Essendon players could have the option of walking out on the club

    Michael Warner
    From: Herald Sun
    September 06, 2013


ESSENDON players could have the option of walking out of Windy Hill as delisted free agents.

The AFL Players' Association has told the league and player managers that any player who wants to terminate his contract should be allowed to sign with a rival club of his choice.

The status of "delisted free agent" would be open to all Essendon players. A free agent would normally have to serve at least eight seasons on an AFL list.

Under this scenario, players would be free to leave and avoid the lottery of the draft or trade period, without any compensation for the Bombers.

The AFLPA believes Essendon was in breach of its duty of care to its players in 2012 and has fielded inquiries from player managers regarding the rights of Bombers players.

Essendon, which has signed defender Cale Hooker and midfielder Jake Melksham to new deals in recent weeks, is confident it will retain all of its players for next year.

But the option of moving unhindered to another club could be exploited by players and player managers during the October trade and free agency period.

AFLPA chief executive Matt Finnis previously said that Essendon players had genuine claims for breach of contract because of the club's 2012 supplements program.

The AFLPA yesterday confirmed that any Essendon player could seek guidance on his rights from the AFL, but the union was seeking a general ruling for all players.

"Whilst we have met with all player managers involved and had numerous discussions with Essendon players, we are not aware of any particular player who is seeking to go down this path," Finnis said.

"However, from our perspective, the principle is quite straightforward.

"Although the point has clearly been raised in the context of the Essendon situation, the principle is far broader and general in its application.

"That is, any player who validly terminates his contract as a result of a serious breach by his club cannot in good conscience be required to remain on the list of the club following the termination.

"If such a player could only seek re-employment in the industry via the draft or through a trade organised by the club which breached its duties to him in the first place, that would be a ridiculous situation.

"I don't think anyone would say that is fair on the player at all."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-players-association-says-essendon-players-could-have-the-option-of-walking-out-on-the-club/story-fndv8gad-1226712380873#mm-breached

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Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga (H-Sun)
« Reply #2169 on: September 07, 2013, 02:47:27 AM »
Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga

    Grant Baker
    From: Herald Sun
    September 07, 2013


ESSENDON faces the "dire" prospect of players walking out on the club as the AFL Commission considers a get-out application from the AFL Players' Association.

The AFLPA has written to the league asking it to consider allowing Essendon players to be considered as delisted free agents because, it believes, the club was in breach of its duty of care to players over the 2012 supplements scandal.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said yesterday he understood some Bombers players wanted out and the commission would consider requests.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-braces-for-bombers-exodus-following-supplements-saga/story-fndv8gad-1226713553144

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2170 on: September 07, 2013, 05:27:05 AM »
Have I mentioned that Essendon can ead?
It's that simple Spud
"I discussed (it) with my three daughters, my wife and my 82-year-old mum, because it has really affected me … If those comments … were made about one of my daughters, it would make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I would not have liked it at all.”

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2171 on: September 07, 2013, 04:35:08 PM »
long, long time ago
I can still remember how Shane Charters used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make my players dance
And maybe they'd be stronger for a while

But 2013 made me shiver
With every paper that was delivered
Barratt on my doorstep
I couldn't take one more step

I can't remember if I cried
When I read about how they proved I lied
But something touched me deep inside
The day my fiction, died

[Chorus]

So bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, and built up our pride
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "No-one will ever know that we lied
No-one will ever know that we lied"

[Verse 1]

Did you write the book of push & shove
And do you have faith in Demetriou above
If the AFL tells you so?
Now do you believe in 9604,
And how drugs save your football soul
And can you teach me how to inject real slow?

Well, you know that I was in love with Dank
Since I saw him injectin’ out the back
We both beefed up our tans
To show off to all our fans

I was a lonely rookie coachin' buck
With a Brownlow medal and a million bucks
But I knew I was out of luck
The day they found I lied

[Chorus]

I started singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Hope they never find out we lied
Hope they never find out we lied"

[Verse 2]

Now for ten games we've been out on our own
With hidden texts on my mobile phone
But that's not how it used to be
When the rumours came that we weren’t clean
When in truth we were as high as James Dean
“But the drugs came from Dank, not me”

And while me, the king, was counting cash
ASADA found my hidden stash
The courtroom was adjourned
Until the ASADA verdict was returned

And while Sam Newman read a book from FARC
The media stakeout in the park
And we injected in the dark
The day our dreams died

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but no-one knew why
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Do you think that the media has spied?
Do you think that the media has spied?"

[Verse 3]

Helter skelter in a winter swelter
The wheels fell off in another belter
Eighth place now and falling fast
Another player lying on the grass
A hamstring sprung trying a short pass
Another player on the sidelines in a cast

Now the premiership air is sweet perfume
While Meatloaf sings an awful tune
We’d all love the September dance
Oh, but we’ll never get the chance

'Cause if the players try to take the field
Will ASADA refuse to yield?
Will we ever really know what was revealed
The day my dream died?

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then David Evans cried
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide
ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide."

Oh, and there we were all in one place
An entire season lost in space
With no chance left to start again
So come on, Jobe be nimble, Jobe be quick
Watson sat “On the Couch” real quick
('Cause Roosy is the Demon’s only friend)

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Roosy spell

And as the ratings climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Roosy laughing with delight
That’s when, they knew, I lied

[Chorus]

He was singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but our success was a lie
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Now our premiership dreams are fried
Now our premiership dreams are fried "

I asked my girl who hates the Blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the AFL store
Where they all loved me years before
But the man there said that finals, we wouldn't play

And in Bay 13, the Bombers screamed
The Magpies cried and the Hawks all dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The servers all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Demetriou, The Dank and the Charters Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day they’d found I’d lied

And they were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied
About ever having seen a peptide”

[Chorus]

They were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied”
That's brilliant Y&B :clapping  :rollin
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Re: Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga (H-Sun)
« Reply #2172 on: September 07, 2013, 04:36:13 PM »
Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga

    Grant Baker
    From: Herald Sun
    September 07, 2013


ESSENDON faces the "dire" prospect of players walking out on the club as the AFL Commission considers a get-out application from the AFL Players' Association.

The AFLPA has written to the league asking it to consider allowing Essendon players to be considered as delisted free agents because, it believes, the club was in breach of its duty of care to players over the 2012 supplements scandal.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said yesterday he understood some Bombers players wanted out and the commission would consider requests.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-braces-for-bombers-exodus-following-supplements-saga/story-fndv8gad-1226713553144
I'll happily have Zaharakis at Tigerland :yep.
All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be - Pink Floyd

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Re: Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga (H-Sun)
« Reply #2173 on: September 07, 2013, 04:42:40 PM »
Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga

    Grant Baker
    From: Herald Sun
    September 07, 2013


ESSENDON faces the "dire" prospect of players walking out on the club as the AFL Commission considers a get-out application from the AFL Players' Association.

The AFLPA has written to the league asking it to consider allowing Essendon players to be considered as delisted free agents because, it believes, the club was in breach of its duty of care to players over the 2012 supplements scandal.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said yesterday he understood some Bombers players wanted out and the commission would consider requests.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-braces-for-bombers-exodus-following-supplements-saga/story-fndv8gad-1226713553144
I'll happily have Zaharakis at Tigerland :yep.

He's probably the one bloke outside of Jobe who won't walk out
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

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Re: Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga (H-Sun)
« Reply #2174 on: September 08, 2013, 12:15:16 AM »
Essendon braces for Bombers exodus following supplements saga

    Grant Baker
    From: Herald Sun
    September 07, 2013


ESSENDON faces the "dire" prospect of players walking out on the club as the AFL Commission considers a get-out application from the AFL Players' Association.

The AFLPA has written to the league asking it to consider allowing Essendon players to be considered as delisted free agents because, it believes, the club was in breach of its duty of care to players over the 2012 supplements scandal.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said yesterday he understood some Bombers players wanted out and the commission would consider requests.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-braces-for-bombers-exodus-following-supplements-saga/story-fndv8gad-1226713553144
I'll happily have Zaharakis at Tigerland :yep.

He's probably the one bloke outside of Jobe who won't walk out
True but I said him as he's probably the one that would suit our needs the most.
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