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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1425 on: August 12, 2013, 11:03:26 PM »
Gonna wake up with morning wood

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1426 on: August 12, 2013, 11:33:27 PM »
Gonna wake up with morning wood

don't roll out of bed  :shh

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1427 on: August 12, 2013, 11:56:42 PM »
Why is Evans allowed out of Australia

 Jail ffs

Jail? What for? Stupidity?

He hasn't broken any laws

I think yol find from work safe and medical law

Undocumented multi mass injection lab rat program

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1428 on: August 13, 2013, 04:59:50 AM »
Stephen Dank says it would be ‘ludicrous' if Essendon staff are charged by the AFL

    Mark Robinson
    From: Herald Sun
    August 12, 2013 10:00PM


STEPHEN Dank said it would be "ludicrous" if James Hird, Dr Bruce Reid and Danny Corcoran were charged by the AFL for conduct unbecoming.

The key Essendon trio is in the sights of the AFL and have been told they can expect to be charged, along with the club, over last year's supplements program run by sports scientist Dank and former high-performance manager Dean Robinson.

But Dank claims the coach, the club doctor and the head of football did everything to ensure the health and safety of the players throughout a supplements program Dank admitted was "cutting edge".

"They've done nothing disreputable, they've done nothing contrary to the WADA prohibited list, they only endeavoured to take Essendon on a cutting-edge program, a program I might add that wasn't pharmacologically experimental, might I add was far from exotic and might I say at all times had the players' welfare and wellbeing as its first and foremost consideration."

He described as "bullcrap" any suggestion Hird, Reid or Corcoran failed in their duty of care.

"The care of Reid and Hird on the players was paramount and always at the foremost of their consideration ," Dank said.

Asked if they should be charged, he said: "No. It's ludicrous."

Dank stressed, despite his sudden departure from the club last year and the ensuing scandal, that he loved working with the Bombers.

On Monday night he offered to help any individual charged by the AFL.

The man central to the drugs scandal is yet to speak to anti-doping authorities, and likely won't as he prepares promised legal action against ASADA and the AFL.

Dank's stance flies in the face of Ziggy Switkowski's Essendon-commissioned report into the management and governance of the supplements program.

Switkowski wrote of: " ... the rapid diversification into exotic supplements, sharp increase in frequency of injections, the shift to treatment off-site in alternative medicine clinics, emergence of unfamiliar suppliers, marginalisation of traditional medical staff ... combine(d) to create a disturbing picture of a pharmacologically experimental environment never adequately controlled or challenged or documented within the club in the period under review."

Dank, who was spoken to by the Australian Crime Commission in November as part of its investigation into drugs in sport, has not spoken to Hird since being moved on at the end of last season.

He claimed on Monday he had left the club with an inventory of supplements given to players during his time at Essendon.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/stephen-dank-says-it-would-be-ludicrous-if-essendon-staff-are-charged-by-the-afl/story-fndv8gad-1226695863049#mm-breached

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1429 on: August 13, 2013, 05:05:39 AM »
AFL legend Leigh Matthews has questioned whether Essendon has done anything to bring the game into disrepute and is at risk of being made a scapegoat.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-james-hird-admits-pressure-on-club-is-taking-its-toll-on-players-in-recent-weeks/story-fndv8gad-1226695803368

Scapegoat? Ummm Lethal, their captain admitted on live tv to being given a substance that's been banned since 2011. Add to that there's the club's own report into the matter critical of what happened plus now the ASADA interim report.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1430 on: August 13, 2013, 07:09:01 AM »
AFL legend Leigh Matthews has questioned whether Essendon has done anything to bring the game into disrepute and is at risk of being made a scapegoat.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-james-hird-admits-pressure-on-club-is-taking-its-toll-on-players-in-recent-weeks/story-fndv8gad-1226695803368

Scapegoat? Ummm Lethal, their captain admitted on live tv to being given a substance that's been banned since 2011. Add to that there's the club's own report into the matter critical of what happened plus now the ASADA interim report.

Youve got to wonder about some of these journos and their motives.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1431 on: August 13, 2013, 08:13:44 AM »
last month leigh said hed lost respect for jimmy due to spin doctor employment

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1432 on: August 13, 2013, 08:17:11 AM »
Why is Evans allowed out of Australia

 Jail ffs

Jail? What for? Stupidity?

He hasn't broken any laws

I think yol find from work safe and medical law

Undocumented multi mass injection lab rat program

 :nope :nope
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1433 on: August 13, 2013, 08:31:06 AM »
And Jimmy wonders why footy fans are losing/have lost respect for him since this saga started  ::)

Is he for real?
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Essendon coach James Hird defiant as AFL charges loom over supplements scandal
by: Mark Robinson
•From: Herald Sun
•August 13, 2013 8:17AM

ESSENDON coach James Hird remains defiant over the club's supplements scandal amid speculation the AFL could hand down its findings in the coming hours.

Hird, Dr Bruce Reid and Danny Corcoran are in the sights of the AFL after ASADA handed down its interim report more than a week ago.

The key Essendon trio have been told they can expect to be charged, along with the club, over last year's supplements program run by sports scientist Dank and former high-performance manager Dean Robinson.

Hird said outside his Toorak mansion this morning that he still found the possibility of charges "hard to believe".

Hird again denied Bombers players have taken performance enhancing drugs or have been harmed by any substances.

"I think we all find it hard to believe that charges can be laid on individuals or the club when none of our players have shown to take performance enhancing drugs, none of our players have been shown that they’ve been harmed by anything that’s been given and that we’re dealing with an interim report," Hird told Channel Seven.

"The report's not finalised so we're all probably sitting back staggered and shocked that any charges could possibly be laid on those points."

Hird also indicated that Essendon would strongly fight the charges.

"Our football club is the greatest football club in Australia and we're going to protect its name," he said.

Full article at:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-coach-james-hird-defiant-as-afl-charges-loom-over-supplements-scandal/story-fni5f6kv-1226695863049
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1434 on: August 13, 2013, 08:47:27 AM »
"I think we all find it hard to believe that charges can be laid on individuals or the club when none of our players have shown to take performance enhancing drugs, none of our players have been shown that they’ve been harmed by anything that’s been given and that we’re dealing with an interim report," Hird told Channel Seven.

"The report's not finalised so we're all probably sitting back staggered and shocked that any charges could possibly be laid on those points."


Now Jimmy it would appear that what you seem to have conveniently forgotten (probably because it doens't suit your spin) is that the AFL are also using Ziggy's report, you know the one your own Club (the Club you claim to love soooooooooo much) organised, to make their findings.

Secondly, the reason the ASADA report is only an "interim" report was explained to eveyone last week. With their new powers they can no force people to be interviewed, hence why they are keeping the invesitgation open. Your players are not off the hook yet.

And whay has your tune suddenly changed?

Up until yesterday it was about "we haven/t done anything wrong".

Now it's "none of our players have shown to take performance enhancing drugs, none of our players have been shown that they’ve been harmed by anything that’s been given". 

Is that because of what the report says? All media outlets have said that the reports says your players were give at least 1 banned substance (ADO 69 whatever it is). Are you and your club now justifying that little issue by saying it "hasn't harmed" them?

Facts are the reason none of your players have yet to (may still happen) face any sanctions is in part because of the non-existent records your Club kept. Bit hard to whack someone when (1) the person doens't know what they took and (2) you the administrators of the said program didn't keep proper records

You & your Club are being charged not just because of what you gave your players but how you went about running the program. Wouldn't think you need a final ASADA report to tell you that the EFC let their players and the game down
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1435 on: August 13, 2013, 09:12:33 AM »
Essendon idiots ringing the radio  ;D


Why is Evans allowed out of Australia

 Jail ffs

Jail? What for? Stupidity?

He hasn't broken any laws

I think yol find from work safe and medical law

Undocumented multi mass injection lab rat program

 :nope :nope

If you mass inject 1000s of injections in this country you have to be able state what said drug is - even lab rats have this right  :yep

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1436 on: August 13, 2013, 09:16:40 AM »
AFL ‏@AFL
1m

@janey3putt The AFL has never said there will be a 9am press conference, only media speculation.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1437 on: August 13, 2013, 09:18:22 AM »
A defiant Essendon coach James Hird says he'd be "staggered and shocked" if the AFL decided to lay charges based on the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority's interim report into the club's 2012 supplement program.

"None of our players has shown they've taken performance enhancing drugs; none of our players has shown that they've been been harmed by anything that's been given," he told reporters outside his Melbourne home on Tuesday.

"We're dealing with an interim report. The report's not finalised.

"We're all sitting back staggered and shocked that any charges could possibly be laid on those points.

"Our football club is the greatest football club in Australia and we're going to protect its name."

Essendon is expected to find out on Tuesday if the club or individuals will be charged by the AFL over their suspect supplements program.
The AFL received ASADA's interim report more than a week ago.

There has been speculation that no specific anti-doping charges will be brought against players under the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) code but the AFL could still heavily punish the Bombers under its own rules.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2013-08-13/hird-staggered-by-potential-charges.workstation

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1438 on: August 13, 2013, 09:37:29 AM »
Needs a new catch-phrase tbh.  :whistle

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1439 on: August 13, 2013, 09:41:47 AM »
If you mass inject 1000s of injections in this country you have to be able state what said drug is - even lab rats have this right  :yep

You are making a massive assumption = 1000s of injection. No proof of this in this case. 

Going back to your original claim that Evans shouldn't be allowed to leave the country and should be in jail

He has every right to leave the country as he hasn't been charged with anything, currently is under investigation for anything.

So under the laws that govern this great country of ours he is free to leave and go overseas for a holiday

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