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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1650 on: August 20, 2013, 06:56:48 PM »
The whole hearing has been adjourned to give Essendon more time to prepare their case. So the media are now running with the headline "Essendon will play finals this year". Caro is the only exception as she thinks a deal behind the scenes will be done before the finals where Essendon will accept not being in the finals so any punishment doesn't drag into 2014.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-20/dons-dday-delayed
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1651 on: August 20, 2013, 08:50:47 PM »
AFL New the drug was not prohibited!! Surely Vlads head will roll if this is true >:(

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3804605.htm
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1652 on: August 20, 2013, 09:44:17 PM »
ASADA told them not banned under S2. Never said go take it it's not banned at all. Hirdy's spin doctors  :shh
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1653 on: August 20, 2013, 10:12:35 PM »
have told you boys a few times now ASADA are a farce of an organization and i said a while back something like this was going to happen.

What a complete stuff up by ASADA. Blackest day in Australian sport. hahahahahahah

get lost.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1654 on: August 20, 2013, 10:20:59 PM »
Maybe they are actually innocent? #standbyhird
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1655 on: August 20, 2013, 10:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Yeahright on August 20, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
Maybe they are actually innocent? #standbyhird

on AOD 9604 it would seem so

On the others who knows.

The biggest fools are that  Labour MP and Dimwit who stood there in Feb as if the world was about to end. Those 2 deserve each other for royally screwing this up

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1656 on: August 20, 2013, 10:34:46 PM »
Quote from: daniel161 on August 20, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
have told you boys a few times now ASADA are a farce of an organization and i said a while back something like this was going to happen.

What a complete stuff up by ASADA. Blackest day in Australian sport. hahahahahahah

get lost.

Why does aod get media attention over the other drugs?
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1657 on: August 20, 2013, 10:43:06 PM »
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-secret-talks-20130820-2s9g7.html#ixzz2cVkYjhwA

stumbling block remains the club's refusal to accept that it oversaw a program that allowed illegal drugs to be administered to its players
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1658 on: August 20, 2013, 10:45:25 PM »
Richard Ings on twitter saying some interesting things

His opinion, views are the ones that carry the most weight for me.

Respect Whateley as he is a good journo but Ings' still stressing it is the WADA banned list not ASADAs
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1659 on: August 20, 2013, 11:09:53 PM »
111 pages what's the fixation wgaf
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1660 on: August 20, 2013, 11:12:19 PM »
Yep.
It's WADA's call.
Asada are $h!tmen.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1661 on: August 21, 2013, 01:18:08 AM »
Quote from: Bentleigh-esque on August 20, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: daniel161 on August 20, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
have told you boys a few times now ASADA are a farce of an organization and i said a while back something like this was going to happen.

What a complete stuff up by ASADA. Blackest day in Australian sport. hahahahahahah

get lost.

Why does aod get media attention over the other drugs?
Because the others are illegal.  :thumbsup
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1662 on: August 21, 2013, 04:04:53 AM »
"Of all the substances that are known in this ASADA report, they gave a detailed outline as to what they were and the effects of those if there were any and those fears have been allayed."
 
He also said there were no substances that were still unknown "as to what they may or may not have been, or whether they were administered".
 
"Of all the information available to the club via the ASADA investigation, all those supplements have been cleared in terms of harmful effects on players," Tim Watson said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-20/we-want-explanation-watson
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-parents-assured-players-would-not-suffer-health-problems/story-fndv8gad-1226700955888

If there are no sustances still unknown then what was the name of this amino acid/Mexican drug, Timmy?
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1663 on: August 21, 2013, 04:13:09 AM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on August 20, 2013, 10:45:25 PM
Richard Ings on twitter saying some interesting things

His opinion, views are the ones that carry the most weight for me.

Respect Whateley as he is a good journo but Ings' still stressing it is the WADA banned list not ASADAs
Richard Ings ‏@ringsau twitter:

"I have listened to Dr Garnham. (1) WADA determine what is banned or not. Not ASADA. It is the "WADA" banned list."

"(2) the wada decision on the status of AOD9604 is below.

http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada-statement-on-substance-aod-9604/"

"(3) If ASADA gave incorrect or incomplete advice in 2013 on AOD that advice would not have informed decisions in 2011/12 to use or not AOD."

"Finally ASADA has explaining to do, as I have tweeted previously, as to whether it gave incomplete advice on AOD at any time."

"Vey nice to finally hear AOD referred to tonight as a drug. It is not a supplement. It is a drug"

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Ings' point 3 is one of the key points for mine. Even if ASADA gave incorrect or incomplete advice in 2013 on AOD that advice would not have informed Essendon's decisions in 2011/12 to use AOD or not.

The other point is if everything was so fine and dandy then why did Essendon self-report itself in February 2013? If it's all allowed, then why is the Ziggy report so damning of Essendon's experimental program?

Just more Essendon spin from one of their consultants  ::).
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1664 on: August 21, 2013, 07:08:22 AM »
Quote from: one-eyed on August 21, 2013, 04:13:09 AM
"I have listened to Dr Garnham. (1) WADA determine what is banned or not. Not ASADA. It is the "WADA" banned list."

"(2) the wada decision on the status of AOD9604 is below.

http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada-statement-on-substance-aod-9604/"

"(3) If ASADA gave incorrect or incomplete advice in 2013 on AOD that advice would not have informed decisions in 2011/12 to use or not AOD."

"Finally ASADA has explaining to do, as I have tweeted previously, as to whether it gave incomplete advice on AOD at any time."

"Vey nice to finally hear AOD referred to tonight as a drug. It is not a supplement. It is a drug"

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Ings' point 3 is one of the key points for mine. Even if ASADA gave incorrect or incomplete advice in 2013 on AOD that advice would not have informed Essendon's decisions in 2011/12 to use AOD or not.

The other point is if everything was so fine and dandy then why did Essendon self-report itself in February 2013? If it's all allowed, then why is the Ziggy report so damning of Essendon's experimental program?

Just more Essendon spin from one of their consultants  ::).

 :bow

Very astute man is Richard Ings

Being the former head of ASADA Ings would know how the rules work and where things currently stand.

As I said what he says carries far more weight than the spin doctors of the EFC, AFL, ASADA and the ranting man man Robbo that we saw on AFL360 last night  ;D
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