Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)

[Penelope]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

I think you are reading to much into it.

[Eat_em_Alive]

I believe I heard Andy D say, and correct me if I'm wrong. That not only would they contatc audits etc etc, but would have full background check done on all club employees? Wowsers. 

Gonna be singin AC/DC's jailbreak whilst checkin collingwood cheer squad 

[Bengal]

Of course he would/should accept it..  Just as Harvey pocketed his medal after Chris Grant got more votes but couldn't win for belting someone.. 

Its the criteria to be fairest and best..  although i feel for him if he didnt know he was taking illegal substances.. but the rules state its up to the athlete to know what he is using..  Its called taking ownership.  The way i think is if it has enhanced his performance he doesnt deserve it regardless of knowing or not.

[Yeahright]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

People who are qualified sports scientist's should be able to make medical decisions, what do you think they study when at uni?

[Rampstar]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

People who are qualified sports scientist's should be able to make medical decisions, what do you think they study when at uni?

At uni people usually study Billiards and Sex and not in that order 

[Yeahright]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

People who are qualified sports scientist's should be able to make medical decisions, what do you think they study when at uni?

At uni people usually study Billiards and Sex and not in that order 

If only 

[Penelope]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

People who are qualified sports scientist's should be able to make medical decisions, what do you think they study when at uni?

Sports scientists are bound by by the same code of ethics as doctors, in particular "do no harm".

Not to say there are not qualified medics who don't overstep the line, but generally they would/should have the individuals health at the forefront of their decisions, where as sports scientists and the like are more likely to be looking to get players on the track and satisfy the club.

Plus sports science is a large field with much of it covering different aspects than what those in the medical field have studied.

[Rampstar]

what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

People who are qualified sports scientist's should be able to make medical decisions, what do you think they study when at uni?

At uni people usually study Billiards and Sex and not in that order 

If only 

Maybe times have changed in the old days going to Uni was one of the great things in life.

[1965]

Maybe times have changed in the old days going to Uni was one of the great things in life.

I spent 9 years at Monash in the seventies and the best three years were the three years that I did second year.

 

[dwaino]

Reckon RFCO should just get Dimma to jump on here. Only need to wade through some injured player threads to realise OER has a number of resident medicos. 

Could probably learn a thing or two about list management too 

[gerkin greg]

Sports scientists aren't medical doctors – Doc Larkins was saying that they usually have a PhD in muscle physiology or some such, but just about all of them wouldn't be qualified to prescribe you a cold and flu tablet

Oh, they're not doctors

[Smokey]

Reckon RFCO should just get Dimma to jump on here. Only need to wade through some injured player threads to realise OER has a number of resident medicos. 

Could probably learn a thing or two about list management too 

Dwaino, you have been on this forum long enough to know that the club would be in a far better position handing over it's complete management to us at OER.  We are all experts across most areas - unlike the specialists the club employs who only know about 1 or 2 things - so the benefit cannot be overestimated.

 

[gerkin greg]

Reckon RFCO should just get Dimma to jump on here. Only need to wade through some injured player threads to realise OER has a number of resident medicos. 

Could probably learn a thing or two about list management too 

Dwaino, you have been on this forum long enough to know that the club would be in a far better position handing over it's complete management to us at OER.  We are all experts across most areas - unlike the specialists the club employs who only know about 1 or 2 things - so the benefit cannot be overestimated.

 

 

we just need to get one in the door then it's jobs for the boys 

i nominate ramps

[Coach]

Reckon RFCO should just get Dimma to jump on here. Only need to wade through some injured player threads to realise OER has a number of resident medicos. 

Could probably learn a thing or two about list management too 

Dwaino, you have been on this forum long enough to know that the club would be in a far better position handing over it's complete management to us at OER.  We are all experts across most areas - unlike the specialists the club employs who only know about 1 or 2 things - so the benefit cannot be overestimated.

 

 

we just need to get one in the door then it's jobs for the boys 

i nominate ramps

Only because Rampsy will bring you in as his right hand man. No doubt I will receive a phone call about being coach.

[tiga]

I heard a guy on the radio this morning who had run a gym since 1980 and had been involved quite heavily in sport sciences. He said that without the HGH or steroids, Peptides are useless. Used alone, they are like putting a turbo on a car with no engine. However used with HGH or Steroids, they do have a true turbo effect.  He went on to say that sports scientists are more like salesman than doctors and as HGH and steroids are detectable, they cannot use them, so to justify their existence, they push the peptides in the hope that they will have some sort of placebo effect at best.