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Re: Nutrition and Health
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2013, 04:35:33 PM »
I have had success with fixing mastitis in a dog feeding her coconut oil and raw milk.

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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2013, 06:53:35 PM »
I would love to end up looking like Tommy Hafey at 80.I know he doesnt drink alcohol and is a big tea drinker.Does anyone here know more about his lifestyle.I have looked everywhere for books or essays about this but alas nada.

Forgot to add ..he trains like 10 men,but I guess we all knew that part

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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2013, 08:00:38 PM »
I would love to end up looking like Tommy Hafey at 80.I know he doesnt drink alcohol and is a big tea drinker.Does anyone here know more about his lifestyle.I have looked everywhere for books or essays about this but alas nada.

Forgot to add ..he trains like 10 men,but I guess we all knew that part

Tom, you’ve never touched alcohol or cigarettes and gave up cakes and biscuits 40 years ago, so you obviously have a pretty phenomenal diet. What does your diet consist of and is there anything you let yourself indulge in.
 
Tom: Well, ice cream is not lollies biscuits or cakes. I make new resolutions and you need to make new resolutions you know you can keep, because I’m trying to show my little girls when they’re coming through the years to set your mind to do something and nothing should sway you. So I said ‘I won’t eat lollies biscuits or cakes for 12 months’, that was 38 years ago and I haven’t eaten a lolly, biscuit or cake since. But ice cream’s not lollies biscuits or cakes. Is that right?
 
Steve: Haha, exactly.
 
Tom: So Steve, I have a lot of dessert, but the meals I eat are pretty basic and simple. I have cereal for breakfast with fruit and yoghurt and a cup of tea. At lunch I often just have a salad sandwich, or if we’re out I’ll just have what they have there. Then for dinner, we have red meat once a week; fish probably twice a week, pasta and pretty basic things like that and I eat a heap of fruit. When I go for a drive, and I go for a lot of big drives when I speak to schools, I might take a dozen pieces of fruit. I’ll eat them on the way up and on the way back. It keeps me awake for a start, but it’s also good healthy food, isn’t it.
 
http://www.calibrefitness.com.au/interview/featured-interview-tom-hafey

Yeah we're already going to vote for him mate, you don't need to keep selling it.....

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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2013, 08:38:25 PM »
Thanks a million 1965..read the whole interview,he's truly a great man

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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 07:12:21 AM »
That's virtually identical to my diet but I do indulge once a week and have less fruit (too much fructose) . I also incorporate nuts and berries.
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Re: Nutrition and Health
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 02:52:48 PM »
I just eat

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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 07:58:39 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2013, 12:29:56 AM »
Those burgers are ridiculous! Look I avoid blatantly stupid stuff like that, but I wouldn't call that a diet

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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2013, 07:04:47 AM »
Those burgers are ridiculous! Look I avoid blatantly stupid stuff like that, but I wouldn't call that a diet
Your'e right....that is what I'd call: Extreme Eating  :o

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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2013, 09:45:00 AM »
anyone that can eat one of those big burgers probably has a medical problem. A healthy human body should not overeat protein and fat.

In terms of Satiety, that is how quick and for how long a food makes you feel full/content after eating, the order is protein, fat and then carbs.

It is why that many studies have shown that a low carb diet (therefore higher in protein and fats) is the most effective diet to lose weight.

In the most recent one that I know of those on the low fat diet had a specifically controlled calorie content, while those on the low carb diet were given a list of food but could eat as much as they wanted, yet they lost the most weight.

It's why the atkins diet is effictive, in the short term.

One of the problems with diets like that is that if you eliminate one food type, the body will often end up craving that food and find it hard to maintain. what you need is a balanced lifestyle change
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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2013, 10:58:25 AM »
anyone that can eat one of those big burgers probably has a medical problem. A healthy human body should not overeat protein and fat.

In terms of Satiety, that is how quick and for how long a food makes you feel full/content after eating, the order is protein, fat and then carbs.

It is why that many studies have shown that a low carb diet (therefore higher in protein and fats) is the most effective diet to lose weight.

In the most recent one that I know of those on the low fat diet had a specifically controlled calorie content, while those on the low carb diet were given a list of food but could eat as much as they wanted, yet they lost the most weight.

It's why the atkins diet is effictive, in the short term.

One of the problems with diets like that is that if you eliminate one food type, the body will often end up craving that food and find it hard to maintain. what you need is a balanced lifestyle change
Al, you seem well-versed in this topic. Do you have related qualifications and/or a lifelong interest? I'd also be keen to find out what your eating routine/philosophy is. 

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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2013, 11:43:09 AM »
It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.

I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG  ;D) I do a lot of label reading.

I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low

Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.

I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.

The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
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Re: Nutrition and Health
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2013, 03:33:14 PM »
It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.

I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG  ;D) I do a lot of label reading.

I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low

Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.

I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.

The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.

Eat anything high G.I within 30 minutes after physical activity. It can be the difference between recovering all your energy in 12 hours or 72 hours.

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« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2013, 10:34:52 PM »
It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.

I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG  ;D) I do a lot of label reading.

I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low

Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.

I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.

The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.
Thanks for the info :thumbsup

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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2013, 01:02:31 PM »
her's an example of how the BS is left entwined with the truth, and how despite the evidence, some things can just not be let go.

Despite some still living in the dark ages when eggs were vilified for their high cholesterol most in the know now accept that the amount of cholesterol you eat has very little bearing on so called cholesterol levels, as the the body just produces most of the cholesterol it requires anyway.

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Lifting the Taboo on Eggs
Meta-analysis shows little association between egg consumption and coronary heart disease or stroke.



To lower blood cholesterol and cardiovascular disease risk, the American Heart Association (AHA) recommends consuming <300 mg of cholesterol daily (Circulation 2006; 114:82). Because chicken eggs are high in cholesterol (about 200 mg each), clinicians commonly advise patients with elevated blood cholesterol to avoid eating them. However, the association between egg consumption and cardiovascular disease is unclear. In a meta-analysis of 17 prospective cohort studies in which egg consumption was measured with food-frequency questionnaires, investigators assessed this association.

The analysis included nine reports on coronary heart disease (CHD) and eight reports on stroke, with 10 to 20 years of follow-up in most studies. No associations between egg consumption and risk for CHD or stroke were observed. However, subgroup analyses of diabetic patients in which highest and lowest egg consumption were compared showed excess risk for CHD (relative risk, 1.5) and less risk for hemorrhagic stroke (RR, 0.8).

Comment: In this study, egg consumption was not associated with coronary heart disease or stroke except for excess CHD risk in diabetic patients, suggesting that most patients don't need to avoid eggs. The findings are consistent with metabolic research showing that, in most people, dietary saturated and trans fatty acids influence serum LDL cholesterol more than dietary cholesterol does. As the authors note, chicken eggs are inexpensive and rich in protein and other nutrients; moreover, the cholesterol in eggs is easily avoided by not consuming the yolks.

Rong Y et al. Egg consumption and risk of coronary heart disease and stroke: Dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. BMJ 2013 Jan 7; 346:e8539

So for a start, the AHA, which gets most of its funding from large food proceerors and big pharma is still promoting outdated views, ie only consume 300mg of cholesterol per day.

This is despite "The findings are consistent with metabolic research showing that, in most people, dietary saturated and trans fatty acids influence serum LDL cholesterol more than dietary cholesterol does."

and here is a common flaw. They talk about trans fat and saturated fat as if they are the same, but they are not the same, in terms of how they behave in the body. cells that are made with trans fats become insulin resistant, which will lead to higher insulin levels in the blood, which will damage artery walls which will lead to the body needing more cholesterol as it attempts to repair itself.

Even if you dont know this, or don't accept it, when studies combine two variables as one it is a flaw, because you cant be sure that it is not only one thing responsible for what is blamed on two. so the above statement has an element of truth but also pushes a barrow full of kaka.

They basically tell us that eggs are full of nutrition and because they dont raise cholesterol levels they are safe to eat, except perhaps for some diabetics.

But they finish by saying that eggs are OK to eat because it is easy not to eat the yolks? where the hell did they drag that from? the yolk is the most nutritious part and no where did they mention that in the studies they analysed yolks were not consumed.

they just dont want to let go.

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

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