Changes for next week against Port?

[Crazy_Ivan]

Out

Mcgaune

LoL@Mcguane

[Rampstar]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

[one-eyed]

There could be 3 forced changes this week ....

It's too early to tell yet, though, if Hardwick can expect to have Maric, Vickery and Ricky Petterd at his disposal to take on the Power with.

"We're probably not too sure at this stage but obviously Ivan will be pretty sore and Ty from a concussion point of view I'm not exactly sure," Hardwick said.

"Ricky came off late towards the end as well but we just had to put him up forward so we could have players rotating through the middle of the ground. I would say that those three will be questionable at this stage."

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2013/05/05/tigers-need-to-learn-from-loss-hardwick/

[WA Tiger]

Well with big Sarg and Westhoff we will need to be taller down back..Griff might get a gig....not sure why but he might.

[Francois Jackson]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

Agree 100% on Grigg, Houli has played a few nice games this year however we can't play him and Newman in the same team if we want to be treated seriously. Both slow and good depth players at. best

Re Grigg: il call it right now he is in the bottom 5 players on our list. No right foot, No speed, no defensive aspect to his game. Why waste our time with him. You wonder why he never has an opponent. It's because no one cares for his input on match day.
He copped a hammering where I was sitting and deservedly so. He is paid good money to stand on the wing and cheat his way to 20 plus possessions every week.

[bojangles17]

Well with big Sarg and Westhoff we will need to be taller down back..Griff might get a gig....not sure why but he might.

he ll defintely get a gig as second string ruck option

[Tigeritis™©®]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

Agree 100% on Grigg, Houli has played a few nice games this year however we can't play him and Newman in the same team if we want to be treated seriously. Both slow and good depth players at. best

Re Grigg: il call it right now he is in the bottom 5 players on our list. No right foot, No speed, no defensive aspect to his game. Why waste our time with him. You wonder why he never has an opponent. It's because no one cares for his input on match day.
He copped a hammering where I was sitting and deservedly so. He is paid good money to stand on the wing and cheat his way to 20 plus possessions every week.

Don't sugar coat it Daniel, tell us what you really think. 

[Golfprotiger]

Out: Jackson, Houli, Newman

In: Foley, Griffiths, Tuck

[Judge Roughneck]

   
Player   K   HB   D   M   G   B   T   HO   I50   FF   FA   DT   SC
Shane Edwards   11   19   30   1   0   0   2   0   2   1   0   83   90
Shaun Grigg   14   11   25   6   1   0   4   0   4   0   2   98   79
Chris Knights   15   9   24   9   1   2   1   0   1   0   0   102   104
Daniel Jackson   14   9   23   2   0   1   1   3   3   1   0   75   71
Dustin Martin   16   6   22   7   2   0   3   0   3   1   0   106   125
Brett Deledio   10   10   20   3   0   0   1   0   4   0   0   63   46
Jake King   14   6   20   7   4   1   1   0   3   2   1   103   105
Nick Vlastuin   8   12   20   4   0   0   5   0   3   1   1   78   72
Chris Newman   14   5   19   5   0   0   2   0   2   0   1   72   72
Brandon Ellis   10   8   18   8   1   1   2   0   3   0   0   85   82
Bachar Houli   7   10   17   4   0   1   9   0   2   1   2   85   82
Trent Cotchin   9   8   17   4   0   0   3   0   4   1   2   62   76
Ricky Petterd   10   6   16   5   0   0   2   0   2   1   3   57   80
Troy Chaplin   8   5   13   3   0   0   2   0   0   1   1   49   64
Ivan Maric   5   7   12   4   0   0   2   20   2   0   1   66   75 [injury]
Jack Riewoldt   8   3   11   6   3   0   1   1   2   1   1   69   81
Alex Rance   5   5   10   4   0   0   1   0   0   1   0   42   58
Luke McGuane   5   4   9   3   1   0   3   4   2   0   2   48   38
Dylan Grimes   6   2   8   4   0   0   4   0   0   0   0   50   54
Steven Morris   4   4   8   3   0   0   2   0   1   1   0   38   46
Matthew White   4   1   5   2   0   1   2   0   1   0   0   29   16
Tyrone Vickery   2   3   5   1   0   0   0   7   2   0   0   22   30 [injury]

[Judge Roughneck]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

Grigg and Houli are not the problem as just.

As players on the list to make the side stronger there is not problem with having them. Ditto Jackson.

Its when thery get games after they have been poor, and hampering the development of the like of Dea, Bachelor, Helbig etc. that is the major issue.

I blame the selection commutative.  and not Grigg or Houli. I try and back the coaching staff 100% but not when they are selfish are try to win games now instead do what is best for Richmond to win a flag - ie. Terry Wallace.

[Jackstar is back!!!]

Stats just are rubbish
Grigg shuts his eyes when going for overhead marks.
Opposition have also work him over game wise as they are aware of his lateral zoning off.

[Judge Roughneck]

Stats just are rubbish
Grigg shuts his eyes when going for overhead marks.
Opposition have also work him over game wise as they are aware of his lateral zoning off.

Agree 100%. I forgot to strikeout Grigg.

Grigg gets the ball but he kicks hang in the air too long. I could make a cup of tea but the time comes back to earth.

[tony_montana]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

Mate, we paid nothing for them, they were free and upgrades on what we had. Gotten better value out of them than we would have gotten out of picks 80 and 90 in the draft imo. Not sure what more you think the club couldve done? Give away top draft picks to land "superstars"?

I'm an unashamed Houli fan, think he gets a bum wrap from supporters and is good value overall. Put him in our top dozen no problem.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Houli must learn from mistakes and try and not make them over and over.

.....must be goal side of your direct opponent at a stoppage near goal......

[Penelope]

Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.

Mate, we paid nothing for them, they were free and upgrades on what we had. Gotten better value out of them than we would have gotten out of picks 80 and 90 in the draft imo. Not sure what more you think the club couldve done? Give away top draft picks to land "superstars"?

I'm an unashamed Houli fan, think he gets a bum wrap from supporters and is good value overall. Put him in our top dozen no problem.

on the money there tony. some seem to think you can just fill your stable with stars like fantasy football.

i wouldnt call myself an anabashed fan of houli,  but i have time for him. His disposal was an ingredient badly lacking when we got him .

Had 9 tackles on the weekend too, did Bachar .

He does still go to ground too easily, but that has improved since he arrived.