Paul Chapman?

[Dice]

The only reason we should be discussing Paul Chapman is to talk about that the Cats know when to move on their older players.

Chapman has been in great form, but Geelong have slowly introduced a new batch of kids and haven't missed a beat.

It's time the Tigers got ruthless with a few players and backed their kids.

i disagree with this.

imo geelong have it wrong.  chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.
does enright still get games.  or kelly or bartel or stokes arent they keeping kids out of games which quite frankly hasnt happened at geelong anyway. their kids have got games despite the abundance of outstanding mature players because they have shown enough and performed well enough at vfl level and when they play seniors.ffs if chapman is not rubbed out they probably win a preliminary final and play off in the g/f.
this bloke massively influenced games when he came back from his hammys last yr and he has massively influenced games this yr.

here we are a club coming off finals and looking to do better and we cant even look at a high quality player who would replace a hack like jake king in the side.and address a serious list need. instead we went after blokes like banfield and lloyd, i have to ask  is chappy keeping a kid out at essendon of course not. is fletcher keeping a kid out or are they going to lose kids because of em absolutely not.
is matt thomas keeping arnot out of our side what a dumb way to look at it. blokes like shane edwards are  keeping arnot out.




 im all for giving blokes like miles arnot helbig elton a game and we stop gifting games to blokes constantly underperforming in the seniors . but lets not jkid ourselves about the majority of our juniors. these  kids in the main are nothing like geelongs and have not earnt a game.

what juniors are we going to play, our juniors aged 21 and under are.
conca - imo should be dropped hes so out of form. he is one junior regularly getting games.
arnot
darrou
ellis regular
elton
lennon been injured,
mcbean
mcdonough
mcintosh
ohanlon
vlastuin - regular
williams
outside of the regulars who are the rest going to replace and out perform.
its not quality players keeping juniors and development players out of our side its hacks like grigg king petterd edwards etc.

and to the poster who clearly hasnt watched chappy over the yrs or done a shred of homework on him and his injuries. he doesnt have paper hammies and he is remarkably resiliant when it comes to injuries. hes played a minimum of 19 games every yr from 2003 to 2012. the only significant amount of time he has missed games was last yr when the cats admitted they bought him back too early from his initial hamstring injury. he hasnt missed a game since.

the thing we most need is quality he is a good fit at essendon and he would be an even bbetter fit with us.

if we had gone and got quality like essendon did with chappy and goddard i have no doubt we would be 3 and 0 with finals a real possibility. but hey it seems posters think medicre plauyers will take us further. they prefer to see the likes of king and edwards running around.

TLDNR

[tigs2011]

I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.

Firstly I am not that OLD 

Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.

Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud 

I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.

IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.

Hope he's enjoying the cash. 

[Phil Mrakov]

I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.

Firstly I am not that OLD 

Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.

Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud 

I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.

IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.

Hope he's enjoying the cash. 

Please, we would've played Ricky Pettard and Grigg ahead of him while he rot in the 2's

[wayne]

imo geelong have it wrong.  chapman would easily be in their best 10 still yet alone 22 and isnt stopping them playing any kid. where does this myth come from why do people think playing chapman and playing kids is mutually exclusive.

I wouldn't call it wrong, the Cats are 3-0 and cruising along nicely at this stage.

Chapman is a champ.

My point is that Geelong thought that Chappy was coming towards the end and they weren't going to give him another contract. We have a guy that is nowhere near as good as Chappy, and we a) give him another year; and b) have him playing seniors when he doesn't really offer much.

[Dice]

Gotta remember too that Geelong did actually offer Chappy a contract. I think it was the clauses that made him leave ? Something about him only playing a max of 10 or 12 games so they could get some games into some kids.
They knew exactly what they were doing. Good management. Take note RFC

[TigerMonk]

His already injured & unlikely to play this weekend. Time to move on 

[Owl]

Hmm so he wouldn't be a happy Chappy

[Phil Mrakov]

His already injured & unlikely to play this weekend. Time to move on 

He's not injured, just a rest cos he's old. If we had him we'd be 3-0 right now, bombers would be 1-2 like we are. We would only need him for 10-15 games and finals. A massive weapon up our sleeve

[Eat_em_Alive]

We should have taken him but we didnt, so get tge stuff over it and move on priks!!

[🏅Dooks]

Stunning this thread has 16 pages.

[Coach]

Stunning this thread has 16 pages.

No, it's not. Get a clue, guy.

[🏅Dooks]

No

[tigs2011]

I wrote this the other day but it seems to be the same OLD people making up the same OLD excuses for our recruiting. Take a bloody risk Tigers. Grigg would be on 300k/350k IMO, get rid of him and find anther $50k and we have a ten year player that has a decent crack in Adams. Really not that hard if you want to make things work.
Stop making excuses for a mediocre club when it comes to tough decisions.

Firstly I am not that OLD 

Seriously, I am not making excuses for the recruiters and the bloke who is in charge of list management (who BTW should be held accountable a bit more than a few others) but if a player doesn't want to come to the club then why bother chasing them if all they are after is the pay packet? They made an offer to Adams, he knocked it back. Pies offered more $$ he took that = done & dusted. And going by the way he's struggling at the Pies at the moment and the money he is reportedly on; then you have an argument that he is being over paid and have to ask is he worth that supposed $400k he is on at C'wood.

Can only imagine how this forum would be if Adams' was at the RFC, playing the way he is at the moment on the $$ he is reportedly on? Got no doubt the majority would be taking aim at the Club saying we've paid overs for another dud 

I'm all for going after good players but weary about paying overs. Said it at trade time I would love to have seen the Club put up some decent players for trade to try and get a top 5 draft pick from somewhere. But as usual they didn't have the courage/guts to do that.

IMO Adams made a poor decision based on football not to come here. He'd have been a perfect fit for us. But for the Pies he's trying to push past Beams, Pendles and Swan.

Hope he's enjoying the cash. 

Please, we would've played Ricky Pettard and Grigg ahead of him while he rot in the 2's

nah, Adams played for another club. Straight in forever and ever.

[TigerMonk]

scared to hurt players, banished to 2nds should have injured Lumumba

[Coach]

scared to hurt players, banished to 2nds should have injured Lumumba

This is the Paul Chapman thread brother. Troy Chaplin is the one you seek