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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2014, 09:20:19 PM »
Appropriate choices.

O to replace Maric.
Thomas to replace Tuck.

If Hampson goes down then O will play 1st ruck and Griff or Vickery the relief role, whilst the other stays forward.

Pity for Miles. I liked the look of his playing style/skills a lot. Would be my first choice if we get a LTI.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2014, 02:19:13 PM »
why you'd want to use a blue chip KPF like Vickery in the ruck is beyond me anyway

Kenny Other... :clapping

Can we get an answer pls

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2014, 11:24:53 PM »
hmm human wrecking ball.

thought he had a reasonable game. was given the job on ablett and failed but most do.
thought he was one of only  two who managed to win some inside ball  especially early.that says a lot about where our mids are at. 
hes not the answer and i still would have prefered to see miles given his promotion.

what is certain we have to find a better balance between inside and outside mids.  ssems we dont have enough ball winners inside and rely on too few, and on the outside our mids are just too outside.
as much as i hate poor kicks we sure coulkd have done with a patty cripps type or crouch type in this yrs draft.  we sure need some silk on the outside as well.
but mids aside our biggest problem remains with our talls right across the board.
people will say how reactionary after one game but ive said this for ages including all last yr and all preseason.
we sure as hell need to improve our development of players we are screaming out for some kids and even mature types to force a bevy of regulars out.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2014, 11:27:27 PM »
that miles missed out after his preseason just shows therres something amiss in the decision making at rfc

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 11:29:02 PM »
We need to get the son of a bitch off the rookie list
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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2014, 09:56:06 PM »
Some Thomas vs Miles comments  ;D
I ultimately think this was the wisest choice.

Appropriate choices.

O to replace Maric.
Thomas to replace Tuck.

agree. Was ordinary in VFL the other day. I only saw part of the Sandy VFL game but Thomas was better at that level from what I saw. I also think he's slightly ahead of miles at afl level.

I reckon people getting a bit over board with the miles love

:clapping.....very good!!

Think he has been pretty good so far. Good rookie selection.

Bigger body. More experience.
Thomas for now. Myles for the future.

Was impressed by Thomas so he's a lock for the No. 1 rookie elevation spot.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2014, 11:49:41 PM »
I stand by my comment. Miles threw in a stinker on the worst day possible.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2014, 11:59:41 PM »
Some Thomas vs Miles comments  ;D
I ultimately think this was the wisest choice.

Appropriate choices.

O to replace Maric.
Thomas to replace Tuck.

agree. Was ordinary in VFL the other day. I only saw part of the Sandy VFL game but Thomas was better at that level from what I saw. I also think he's slightly ahead of miles at afl level.

I reckon people getting a bit over board with the miles love

:clapping.....very good!!

Think he has been pretty good so far. Good rookie selection.

Bigger body. More experience.
Thomas for now. Myles for the future.

Was impressed by Thomas so he's a lock for the No. 1 rookie elevation spot.
To be fair many of those comments were on the back of Maric being out for a much shorter period of time. The club indicated this but kept on extending his injury rehab time.
Many said if he was going to out for 8 weeks then they should have elevated three rookies including Miles.
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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2014, 12:20:01 AM »
I stand by my comment. Miles threw in a stinker on the worst day possible.

Even the part where you said Thomas is ahead of him at AFL level?

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2014, 12:28:43 AM »
I stand by my comment. Miles threw in a stinker on the worst day possible.

Even the part where you said Thomas is ahead of him at AFL level?
Yep. Thomas was very good in his appearance against Essendon in the lead-up game while Miles struggled to get a kick in the VFL. Personally thought he had earnt it with the disclaimer I thought we were a better side than what we are. In hindsight the kid should have been promoted regardless because we suck and should be getting games into guys with upside.  :lol

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2014, 12:31:01 AM »
Personally thought he had earnt it with the disclaimer I thought we were a better side than what we are. In hindsight the kid should have been promoted regardless because we suck and should be getting games into guys with upside.  :lol

I admit I thought it was neck and neck really apart from Miles being young getting the nod from me. Don't let Claw see you thought we were a better side than we are  :o

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2014, 12:37:42 AM »
Personally thought he had earnt it with the disclaimer I thought we were a better side than what we are. In hindsight the kid should have been promoted regardless because we suck and should be getting games into guys with upside.  :lol

I admit I thought it was neck and neck really apart from Miles being young getting the nod from me. Don't let Claw see you thought we were a better side than we are  :o
:lol :lol we even played good footy in the pre-season to tease us some more.  :banghead :banghead

I had them neck and neck until I went to Vic Park and watch the VFL game. Thought Miles let himself down. Was hoping he'd get the nod.

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« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2014, 02:37:43 PM »
Personally thought he had earnt it with the disclaimer I thought we were a better side than what we are. In hindsight the kid should have been promoted regardless because we suck and should be getting games into guys with upside.  :lol

I admit I thought it was neck and neck really apart from Miles being young getting the nod from me. Don't let Claw see you thought we were a better side than we are  :o
too late ive seen it and made note. ;D

on miles and thomas. geez i know thomas has many critics, im one of them  well im one who cringes at some areas of his game.
geez i argued pretty hard that we should not have taken thomas under any circumstances. slow as a turtle, poor decision maker, and even worse kick.  what clinched it for me was at afl level he just didnt find enough ball either.
the flip side to that was he played basically all of 2013 in the twos at p/a  he was a beast and an absolute stand out at that level. he was winning plenty of ball he improved in nearly every area and imo that had to be acknowledged.
so what i cant ignore was his great form in the sanfl and the vast improvement at least statistically he has made in the afl games he has played for us.  to me despite the howlers which have become fewer,  i reckon hes played at a more than passable standard for afl level an the inside role hes been asked to perform..
like tuck im prepared to forgive a few things just as long as he doesnt drop away in winning contested ball laybig tackles and wins his share of clearances.  for me like tuck he has made up for some obvious weaknesses by being very very good in a few other areas.
 the key is to keep him at the level hes at and have him play within his limitations a bit more than he has.  still needs to cut more of the howlers out of his game.hes been a decent pick up as it turns out.

miles well what can you say. doesnt really have an outstanding attribute but he just knows how to play and make decent decisions. inside he reminds me an awful lot of foley without the burst of pace. gotta give em credit for taking this kid. the bonus here is hes still only 22 and hes likely to be a good long term player for us.

im not critical of the club for not promoting miles in front of thomas. i thought the reasoning pretty sound. i would criticise em though for waiting as long as they did to promote miles and play him.
imo i reckon both have been good pick ups especially when you consider they both were nothing but rookie picks. as you know where im critical and  i have argued pretty hard was we failed to adequately balance our recruiting out last yr by taking too few kids.  imean to say just one 18yo still rankles me and peees me off no end.

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2014, 02:44:06 PM »
If you saw Thomas vs the drug cheats at punt road on the eve of the year you wouldn't begrudge Thomas his game round 1

From memory he went good vs good coast

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Re: Rookie Promotion - The Big O and The Human Wrecking Ball
« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2014, 07:03:05 PM »
Yep. Thomas was very good in his appearance against Essendon in the lead-up game while Miles struggled to get a kick in the VFL. Personally thought he had earnt it with the disclaimer I thought we were a better side than what we are. In hindsight the kid should have been promoted regardless because we suck and should be getting games into guys with upside.  :lol

"MILES STRUGGLED TO GET A KICK IN THE VFL"

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-02/the-vfl-report-round-9
Richmond VFL coach Tim Clarke provides an exclusive summary of how the AFL-listed players performed at VFL level in Saturday’s win against Essendon.

Anthony Miles
35 disposals, 5 clearances
He had a terrific game. He's really been working on his outside run and it’s really coming into his game. Had 25 uncontested possession so it’s fantastic for him to start showing he can spread from a contest.

35 DISPOSALS!!!!
STRUGGLED TO GET A KICK?

At that stage (round 8), Miles had been best for Richmond in all but one game when he was third best.