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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #330 on: April 07, 2014, 11:44:52 AM »
The only leader that stood up in the first half was capitano.

Where were you newman and Chaplin?

I agree about Newman and Chaplin - Chaplin's turnovers in the first half were costly.

But I disagree about Cotch - in the first quarter he ahd three set shots on goal and kicked 1.1 and 1 out on the full. IMHO that is simply not good enough.  The one out on the full (Gordon did the same in the last quarter) really hurt us.  How professional footballers can have a set shot and miss everything is astounding.

Let alone his leadership on the field - when things are not going our way - where is the on field leadership - I dont mean leadership by getting 30 possessions - I mean directing where people stand at stoppages and who goes to who when things are not working.  We do not seem to have learnt over the past couple of years.  We seem to be a team that other teams can score heavily against - 3 or 4 goals in a row against us is not  uncommon.  Until that gets fixed, we will be mid table.

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #331 on: April 07, 2014, 11:55:14 AM »
It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.

Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior

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Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory

Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership.  Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins  or do something.  Nothing was done.

I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.

Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back.  By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #332 on: April 07, 2014, 12:08:39 PM »
It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.

Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior

Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory

Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership.  Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins  or do something.  Nothing was done.

I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.

Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back.  By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.

Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #333 on: April 07, 2014, 12:20:48 PM »
It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.

Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior

Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory

Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership.  Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins  or do something.  Nothing was done.

I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.

Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back.  By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.

Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #334 on: April 07, 2014, 12:38:39 PM »

seems to have gotten ahead of himself just quietly. wouldnt be a bad idea to send him back to the VFL for a couple of weeks to think about things.

 :clapping

Bit early to be given the 'Brando's Buddies' kids membership honour.

Will be a good player, but he already thinks he has made it.

 Yep throw in being one of the main faces of the m'ship campaign too and you've created a monster  ;D

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #335 on: April 07, 2014, 02:09:36 PM »
It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.

Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior

Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory

Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership.  Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins  or do something.  Nothing was done.

I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.

Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back.  By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.

Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?

Cant recall, I was raging.

If he did kudos  :clapping but then why didn't someone do it again against the doggies? How many lessons do these players need? Thought the fremantly game last year would be enough to change the mindset for good, obviously not

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #336 on: April 07, 2014, 02:21:28 PM »
 have just sat down to watch the game from Saturday due to other commitments & the 1st 5 minutes is shocking. does it get any better or should l just delete the game now & hope for a miracle this Friday night.

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #337 on: April 07, 2014, 02:27:22 PM »
Cotchin has caught the bad kicking disease  :banghead

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #338 on: April 07, 2014, 02:48:45 PM »
It didn't go over someones head, it was cut off. Would have hit Jackson on the tit had it not been spoiled. Poor decision but doesn't have anything to do with his leadership.

Trent is a great leader for our club. Our best player and one of the leagues finest. A fearless warrior

Disagree
Great player
Don't think he is a good leader
Good leaders Selwood .Watson .Ablett .Nick Riewoldt .Hodge .
Now there good leaders who regularly lift there teams to Victory

Spot on Jack.
It is partly why we have poor records in the close games of recent times - the on field leadership.  Partly why blues came back and beat us in the elim final last year - when Judd is getting involved on the scoreboard either kicking them or score assists, he needed to make a move on field. Either sit Jackson on Judd for 10 mins  or do something.  Nothing was done.

I dont just blame Cotch, where is Newman in all of this - the fomer captain ought be giving Cotch a hand re on field leadership.

Similarly, when we hit the front late in games, someone needs to tell the players to drop a guy back.  By the time the coaches pick up the phone and get the message down to the playing field, game over.

Good point, when hawks hit the front against the bombres last week, Roughead went straight to the backline prior to the bounce without the coach sending out the runner. Do we have any players that have shown they can think on their feet like this?
didnt Griff do that against Carlton?

Cant recall, I was raging.

If he did kudos  :clapping but then why didn't someone do it again against the doggies? How many lessons do these players need? Thought the fremantly game last year would be enough to change the mindset for good, obviously not
FFS they did it once and it worked and you expect them to do it again. Geez man.  :lol

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #339 on: April 07, 2014, 02:49:11 PM »
have just sat down to watch the game from Saturday due to other commitments & the 1st 5 minutes is shocking. does it get any better or should l just delete the game now & hope for a miracle this Friday night.
Bin it like Hardwick would.  :shh

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #340 on: April 07, 2014, 02:50:02 PM »
 :clapping :lol

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #341 on: April 07, 2014, 02:51:13 PM »
Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #342 on: April 07, 2014, 03:06:11 PM »
Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds
Why the stuff are you still watching?  :lol

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Re: Richmond vs W.Bulldogs @ Etihad - Round 3, 2014
« Reply #344 on: April 07, 2014, 03:11:20 PM »
Rewoldt cracking the poos on the bench at 1/4 time. Well thats what you get not putting pressure on in the forward 50. No chasing just hunched over with hands on knees. Drop him back to the 2nds
Why the stuff are you still watching?  :lol
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cause l aint seen the game. fair dinkum some of the country footballers could show up some of these players.
Cotchin comes screaming out of the centre & Vickery is standing next to his man not moving. Rewoldt nowhere to be seen lol. everyone caught out