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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #165 on: August 14, 2014, 02:24:19 PM »
I know  :'(
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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #166 on: August 14, 2014, 07:09:19 PM »
watts v richmond:  Round 9   17th May   Richmond   Win 91-74   13   6   19   11   3   0   4   0   1   4   0   0   118   127

i guess chaplin was playing on him

under my submission youd be losing two girls, gaining more. a overall result of minus one girl

Not surprising that his best game for the year was against us when we were playing like poo, Chaplain included. In general, he has done nothing this year but take up space.
look elsewhere Judge.

I dont think Watts will make it. Pity I think he has talent and size. He just squibs the contest and looks lost out there too often.  Id rather not take him unless they think they can fix him because as he is he is Tambo 2.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #167 on: August 14, 2014, 08:24:41 PM »
my understanding of uncontracted players.
those who come out of contract at yrs end. its actually half the list and apart from half a dozen i dont care which ones get the flick theres plenty of options.
uncontracted players list proper
arnot, astbury ???, batchelor, dea, a edwrds, elton, griffiths , helbig, knights , mcbean, mcdonough, mcintosh, newman, ohanlon, petterd. with king already retired.

all 6 rookies can be delisted if we wish. imo what i think the club will do is promote both Miles and Thomas. which leaves another 4 possible delistees,
rookies
banfield, stephenson, williams, darrou, miles, thomas

personally i would like to see 5 new faces on the list proper so if miles and thomas are promoted that means we cut 7 from the list proper.
i would like for us to take 4 new rookies making a total of 9 new faces.

i have a pretty clear list of the 11 players id like to see cut or traded. people will get precious and wont like it so i wont name em.

with 9 new faces it would go something like this
1 trade have a few id love to trade out for picks but one will do.
1 f/a  we should be in the market for a f/a.
4 nd picks as a minimum especially if we can manage to trade into a good pick.
4 rookie picks so that is in effect 10 new faces.

i think this scenario is barely doing enough.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #168 on: August 15, 2014, 12:46:37 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #169 on: August 15, 2014, 06:10:27 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.

Agree with that. Must meet a need.
Sadly, I think the club will do it to be seen as doing something.
Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #170 on: August 15, 2014, 07:00:34 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.

Agree with that. Must meet a need.
Sadly, I think the club will do it to be seen as doing something.
Hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #171 on: August 15, 2014, 12:26:58 PM »
Here's the first thing I'd do. Cut Stephenson , delist Hampson and then rookie list him as back up for next year. That frees up Hampson's spot on the list for us to take a kid....as we should've done last year. Better late than never.
 We won't have the balls to do it though. That'd be admitting we ****ed up by giving up our second rounder for Hampson.
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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #172 on: August 15, 2014, 12:32:07 PM »
I think the only player we should properly target is Kristian Jaksch. We need a big bodied defender and at 195cm this guy fits the bill. He is already in the system so knows whats required. If we can find another Anthony Miles type on the cheap then that is good too. I dont want anymore Hampson, Thomas etc types. There is no value in it. Lets go deep into this draft and stock up with 6 or 7 kids.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #173 on: August 15, 2014, 07:04:09 PM »
look at the kids not getting games at the giants and GC, there are bound to be a few we can take on the cheap

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #174 on: August 15, 2014, 08:05:48 PM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #175 on: August 15, 2014, 08:22:37 PM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.
The good teams keep doing it and some on here want to sit on their hands and hope for the best. Our best (at the draft or in development) hasn't been good enough for over 30 years, it's time we got back into the game.
If you don't think Frawley would a B+/A grade defender in a good side then you may as well take up chess.
And for those who bring up Moneyball, it's not even close to the same thing!
And worse still, those who think you don't have to pay overs for any FA is just plain kidding themselves. You pay overs because you get them for free!!  :banghead

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #176 on: August 15, 2014, 10:58:59 PM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.
The good teams keep doing it and some on here want to sit on their hands and hope for the best. Our best (at the draft or in development) hasn't been good enough for over 30 years, it's time we got back into the game.
If you don't think Frawley would a B+/A grade defender in a good side then you may as well take up chess.
And for those who bring up Moneyball, it's not even close to the same thing!
And worse still, those who think you don't have to pay overs for any FA is just plain kidding themselves. You pay overs because you get them for free!!  :banghead
YEP AGAIN ON THE SAME PAGE  IM GETTING A BIT WORRIED. whoops caps on again. my apologies.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2014, 12:10:11 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.

Of course you keep an eye out but some people are just adamant we take one without considering who will be available.

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2014, 12:12:27 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.
The good teams keep doing it and some on here want to sit on their hands and hope for the best. Our best (at the draft or in development) hasn't been good enough for over 30 years, it's time we got back into the game.
If you don't think Frawley would a B+/A grade defender in a good side then you may as well take up chess.
And for those who bring up Moneyball, it's not even close to the same thing!
And worse still, those who think you don't have to pay overs for any FA is just plain kidding themselves. You pay overs because you get them for free!!  :banghead

Sorry but how is paying overs in the free agent market for the sake of getting an older player not moneyball? Frawley would be a good get but if he was to go somewhere else and we didn't get him people would be straight onto Hardwick for not being active in free agency)

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Re: Who do we need and want, with our salary cap room?
« Reply #179 on: August 16, 2014, 01:17:55 AM »
I don't get why people are so intent on getting a free agent. Is it to look like you're up with the pack? Posters say they are sick of moneyball and topping up players when we are "a middling team who are getting ahead of themselves" but then are desperate for us to get a free agent just because we can.
well i was thinking of frawley who would bolster our defense regardless of what people think.
imo there will be plenty of players let go come seasons end who will improve us even in the short term.to not be thinking about a free agent is head in the sand stuff.
The good teams keep doing it and some on here want to sit on their hands and hope for the best. Our best (at the draft or in development) hasn't been good enough for over 30 years, it's time we got back into the game.
If you don't think Frawley would a B+/A grade defender in a good side then you may as well take up chess.
And for those who bring up Moneyball, it's not even close to the same thing!
And worse still, those who think you don't have to pay overs for any FA is just plain kidding themselves. You pay overs because you get them for free!!  :banghead

Sorry but how is paying overs in the free agent market for the sake of getting an older player not moneyball? Frawley would be a good get but if he was to go somewhere else and we didn't get him people would be straight onto Hardwick for not being active in free agency)

Huh?

The concept of moneyball is to acquire cheap players with serious deficiencies and use them to their singular/minimal strengths.

IE: Matt Thomas as a wrecking ball in the mid.


Chasing Frawley would be moneyball. Nor advisable IMO.