Demons and Dogs -Tigers ?

[RollsRoyce]

Great posts RR 

The game is going to a bad state and away from what made it the icon of Australia sport.  I fear it will not be able to reverse the current trend of ugly football.

But is it hardwicka fault to fix the ugliness of the game?

Shouldn't he focus on winning a flag?


Are these two things separate?

No, it's not Hardwick's job to fix the ugliness of the game. Just as its' not Hardwick's job to fix the half a dozen or so other things  like tanking, drug cheating etc. that I listed which are turning me and possibly many others off the game at a rate of knots. The dilemma for Hardwick and Richmond is that he either doesn't have a plan or the personnel to counter this current trend of ultra-defensive congested footy. I can only hope that the crowds will dwindle away across the board to such a degree that the AFL will be forced to DRASTICALLY reduce the number of interchanges per game and put an end to this blight on the game.   

[Chuck17]

Great posts RR 

The game is going to a bad state and away from what made it the icon of Australia sport.  I fear it will not be able to reverse the current trend of ugly football.

But is it hardwicka fault to fix the ugliness of the game?

Shouldn't he focus on winning a flag?


Are these two things separate?

No, it's not Hardwick's job to fix the ugliness of the game. Just as its' not Hardwick's job to fix the half a dozen or so other things  like tanking, drug cheating etc. that I listed which are turning me and possibly many others off the game at a rate of knots. The dilemma for Hardwick and Richmond is that he either doesn't have a plan or the personnel to counter this current trend of ultra-defensive congested footy. I can only hope that the crowds will dwindle away across the board to such a degree that the AFL will be forced to DRASTICALLY reduce the number of interchanges per game and put an end to this blight on the game.   

To be honest I cant see it going any way but what you have said

[Judge Roughneck]

I completely agree RR

However I don't think hardwick should be portrayed as some kind of hero trying to play sexy football in an era of bleak ugliness. He needs to win ugly or win pretty. The list must at least be competitive regardless of outside circumstances. Fifth year (i think) and he knows what he was getting himself into. The game plan currently is not a hell of a lot more good to watch than thebwo calles ugly teams. And a lotsbleas effective

[Chuck17]

FFS this thread title poos me, the Dees are bent over and getting pumped, they are not even lining up with a forward line at all.

Why does this thread holds the Dees up as something to aspire to.

[WA Tiger]

FFS this thread title poos me, the Dees are bent over and getting pumped, they are not even lining up with a forward line at all.

Why does this thread holds the Dees up as something to aspire to.

How many weeks have you had to wait to post this crap??????

Consistently the have been way better than us!!

[yellowandback]

WAT, surely you jest!

[WA Tiger]

WAT, surely you jest!

Honestly, no, we have been crap since round 2, even our wins have been crap. When the Dees win they look way better than us, as well as that we couldn't beat them...

[Yeahright]

Demons have been better than us only once this year and they were lucky it was when we played them.

[Hellenic Tiger]

WAT, surely you jest!

Honestly, no, we have been crap since round 2, even our wins have been crap. When the Dees win they look way better than us, as well as that we couldn't beat them...

By the way we have been crap since round 1.

WAT does have a point, they easily beat Carlton, won in Adelaide and beat Essendon in 3 of their four wins and beat us also. Whilst we have won in Brissy and GWS and teams below us on the ladder, Melbourne has beaten clubs outside of its third of the ladder and with a younger list and a better more astute coach they are well ahead of us right now. Thing is if the Dees were scheduled to play us next week most on here would be grimacing at the prospect of losing to them.

Roos at least has them playing competitive footy. We get a go at Adelaide at AAMI and won't win and Essendon in a few weeks and pound for pound all things being equal we are not beating them either at this point in time.

If anyone thinks we are ahead of them merely because they struggle to kick goals and we won 1 more game than them then they are living in fantasy land.

[Yeahright]

Roos at least has them playing competitive footy.

Did you see the game today?

[Penelope]

 

rich 5 wins 98.6%  av winning margin 46 losing margin 25
melb 4 wins 74.8% av winning margin 11 losing margin 32

rich lowest 5 scores for the year 51, 52, 69, 72 74
melb lowest 5 score for year - 28, 30, 38, 40,44

rich highest 5 scores for year 154,117,106,98,88
melb highest 5 scores for year 91,83,81,78,78

yep, they have been consistently better than us 

[Hellenic Tiger]

Roos at least has them playing competitive footy.

Did you see the game today?

I agree they were poor today but they have more upside than us given where our list is compared to theirs.

[Hellenic Tiger]

rich 5 wins 98.6%  av winning margin 46 losing margin 25
melb 4 wins 74.8% av winning margin 11 losing margin 32

rich lowest 5 scores for the year 51, 52, 69, 72 74
melb lowest 5 score for year - 28, 30, 38, 40,44

rich highest 5 scores for year 154,117,106,98,88
melb highest 5 scores for year 91,83,81,78,78

yep, they have been consistently better than us 

Their list has more upside than us al. Laugh all you want. They have a better coach too but anyway....

[Penelope]

all well and good tucker, if the discussion had been about about who has the most upside or better coach.

but the comment was that melbourne had been consistently better than us, when they have actually been consistently more crap than us.

[Chuck17]

FFS this thread title poos me, the Dees are bent over and getting pumped, they are not even lining up with a forward line at all.

Why does this thread holds the Dees up as something to aspire to.

How many weeks have you had to wait to post this crap??????

Consistently the have been way better than us!!

Well to tell you the truth I have posted the same thing after every single week after the thread was first posted