Richmond vs St Kilda - Round 15, 2014

[one-eyed]

Round 15 - ST KILDA vs RICHMOND

2:10 PM, June 28, 2014, Etihad Stadium

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St Kilda could be without in-form veteran Lenny Hayes for Saturday's clash with Richmond after the midfielder pulled up sore at Monday's recovery session.

Coach Alan Richardson described the 34-year-old as 50-50 to take on the Tigers as the Saints prepare for an opportunity to climb off the bottom of the ladder.

Alan Richardson was at the MCG on Friday night to watch Richmond fade and eventually lose to the Sydney Swans after an impressive first half. 

He said his team's improved defensive effort against the Eagles would need to be repeated against the Tigers, who are level with the last-placed Saints on three wins.   

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-23/lenny-only-5050

[Chuck17]

Must Lose game, need best draft positioning

[WilliamPowell]

I have to work Saturday morning (fin year stocktake), hoping it goes longer 

[Hellenic Tiger]

I have to work Saturday morning (fin year stocktake), hoping it goes longer 

I'm going out for breakfast with the family. Might turn it into lunch also and a spot of shopping with the good lady and the little one. We'll see what Dimma and co serve me up at about 6:25 on Thursday.

[one-eyed]

Preview: St Kilda v Richmond
Nathan Schmook 
afl.com.au
June 25, 2014

Who would have thought Richmond would find itself in a battle to avoid the wooden spoon in round 15? Locked on three wins each, the Tigers (16th) and Saints (18th) have endured forgettable seasons, but the expectations were much higher for Damien Hardwick's men. They take improved form into Saturday's clash after pushing the Sydney Swans for a half last Friday night, but the Saints were also encouraged by their defensive efforts against the Eagles, despite falling 33 points short. Both sides should be desperate to regain some respect.
 
WHERE AND WHEN: Etihad Stadium, Saturday June 28, 2.10pm


LAST FIVE TIMES
R14, 2013, Richmond 17.17 (119) d St Kilda 8.7 (55) at MCG
R2, 2013, Richmond 14.15 (99) d St Kilda 12.10 (82) at MCG
R10, 2012, Richmond 18.13 (121) d St Kilda 16.17 (113) at Etihad Stadium
R2, 2011, St Kilda 13.17 (95) drew with Richmond 14.11 (95) at MCG
R21, 2010, St Kilda 17.13 (115) d Richmond 14.10 (94) at Etihad Stadium

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THE SIX POINTS

1. Richmond defeated St Kilda by 64 points the last time the sides met with Trent Cotchin picking up three Brownlow votes. Jack Riewoldt and Dan Jackson kicked three goals each.

2. The Saints continue to struggle to hit the scoreboard and are ranked 17th for points scored, averaging 64 per game. They have kicked 10 goals or fewer in each of their past four games.

3. St Kilda has dominated Richmond at Etihad Stadium, winning 10 of the past 11 clashes. The clubs drew when they met at the MCG in 2011.

4. Jack Riewoldt is the No.1 player in 2014 for marks inside 50, taking an average of 4.5 per game. Nick Riewoldt is also in the top 10 with 2.6 per game.

5. Riewoldt enjoys playing the Saints more than any opposition, kicking 33 goals in nine games, including four hauls of six and three bags of seven.

6. Richmond defender Alex Rance jumped eight spots in the Official AFL Player Ratings, brought to you by Gatorade, after his entertaining duel with Lance Franklin in round 14. He is now ranked No.104 overall and No.5 among defenders.

Prediction: Richmond by 38 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-25/preview-st-kilda-v-richmond

[DCrane]

Must Lose game, need best draft positioning

If we can jag one loss in the next two weeks we are looking good for a top 3 pick. What a shame we have the saints twice in the run home. Carlton are the danger of stealing pick 3 from us, they will be lucky to get 1 more win for the season. The other sides on 4 wins are in good enough form to get another win or two.

[Darth Tiger]

Geez even the Saints are resting players like Lenny Hayes against the Tigers.

Feels like pre-2011.

[Rampstar]

I hope we lose. Its in the best interests of the RFC that we lose.

[Dice]

I hope we lose. Its in the best interests of the RFC that we lose.

Why ?  All the recruiters are saying the draft is a lottery this year. Pick 1 through to pick 8 could get drafted in any order and even if we got the first pick I wouldn't be confident we'd get it right. Always best to try and win or else you end up with Melbourne's losing culture. We've got enough culture problems of our own without adding that one.

[cub]

Never ever want to lose but this is just a massive non event, don't know wtf I'm bothering to go to be honest.
Oh free ticket with 16 game membership for tigers, lol@getting desperate

[Diocletian]

I hope we lose. Its in the best interests of the RFC that we lose.

Why ?  All the recruiters are saying the draft is a lottery this year. Pick 1 through to pick 8 could get drafted in any order and even if we got the first pick I wouldn't be confident we'd get it right. Always best to try and win or else you end up with Melbourne's losing culture. We've got enough culture problems of our own without adding that one.

I don't buy that meaningless wins in junk time of a failed season build a "winning culture". Only wins when the stakes are high matter. How many of the times we've come home with a wet sail after the season is shot and got up to mid-table finish have actually translated into success the following year? All it seems to do at Richmond is paper over cracks, cause us to get ahead of ourselves and overrate the list again. It's amazing how Port won stuff all for two years then suddenly got a good coach, top line fitness staff and managed to turn it all around immediately. Melbourne have a been a complete rabble for about five of the last six years....get a good coach, smart trades & drafting on top of all the top picks they've accumulated and are suddenly playing with twice the desire, skill & intent, that will eventually translate into success. Hell, even Jack Watts is looking like he actually wants to be there.

Even back in 2005 after our last wooden spoon in 2004 which IIRC ended with 14 consecutive losses, we got a new coach, who for all his flaws was at least better than Frawley, snagged Deledio and were well on track for the finals until our (and arguably the competition's) best player that year broke his leg.

Identifying and dealing with the deficiencies, smart recruiting, new people with a new attitude & higher standards are more likely to usher in a winning culture than meaningless wins from the season before. If anything I think the latter is ultimately detrimental at Richmond for the reasons I've stated.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying tank, I'm saying get blokes carrying niggles & injuries like Cotchin & Morris fit for the pre-season, play the kids, with simple instructions to take the game on not worry about mistakes or the scoreboard and just let the chips fall where they may.

[1965]

Just to be clear, I'm not saying tank, I'm saying get blokes carrying niggles & injuries like Cotchin & Morris fit for the pre-season, play the kids, with simple instructions to take the game on not worry about mistakes or the scoreboard and just let the chips fall where they may.

What he said.

 

[Jackstar is back!!!]

How does Vickery get a game when the Big O is flying ?
Vickery washing and polishing the coaches cars
That called getting a game on performance

[1965]

How does Vickery get a game when the Big O is flying ?

You know the answer.

 

[wayne]

I hope we lose. Its in the best interests of the RFC that we lose.

Why ?  All the recruiters are saying the draft is a lottery this year. Pick 1 through to pick 8 could get drafted in any order and even if we got the first pick I wouldn't be confident we'd get it right. Always best to try and win or else you end up with Melbourne's losing culture. We've got enough culture problems of our own without adding that one.

Might be able to do a trade like pick 1 to gws for 5 and shiel or patton.