Who will be delisted at seasons end?

[eliminator]

O'Hanlon - don't believe he was given enough of a chance but at real risk of being delisted
Elton -Playing in back half may have saved him but believe he is still at real risk
Arnot-don't believe he should be but Club will delist him. Hope I am wrong and the club keeps him
Williams
Helbig - at real risk
A. Edwards
Banfield
Stephenson

Agree with comments "Really though, it's a bit of a mug's game trying to use logic to work out what this club will do with regards to list management, let alone second guessing it."

[mightytiges]

List changes usually come down to who is out of contract and how many draft picks we'll have/use in the National Draft.

According to our OER contracts list, those out of contract are: Arnot, Astbury, Batchelor, Dea, A.Edwards, Elton, Griffiths, Helbig, Knights, McBean, McDonough, McIntosh, O'Hanlon, Petterd

and Rookies: Darrou, Stephenson, Williams, Banfield, Thomas

Sadly, Hampson is contracted until 2016  .


So far the Club has replaced Kingy (retired) on the senior list with Miles (elevated from the rookie list). So no net change in numbers on our senior list.

As far as draft picks, we'll most only use 4 as this stage unless we trade someone for another pick. I don't see us going beyond the 4th round if say we have picks 10, 30, 48 & 64. So that means 4 current senior listed players will have to go to fit these newbies onto our senior list. Another could go if we go after a free agent.

Senior list:
Out:
King (retired)
A.Edwards
Helbig
O'Hanlon
Dea
Possibly Arnot or even Knights (retire due to injuries)

In:
Miles (elevated)
1st ND pick
2nd ND pick
3rd ND pick
4th ND pick
Possibly a Free agent


Rookie list changes:
Out: Darrou, Williams, Banfield.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Big O is kept as ruck back-up. I would get rid of Thomas but Dimma likes him so he'll most likely survive.

[Rampstar]

I don't think they'll delist Dea. They've put to much work into him and he is a very improved player anyway. I'm thinking they will go with 4 picks in the national draft only.

[the claw]

I don't think they'll delist Dea. They've put to much work into him and he is a very improved player anyway. I'm thinking they will go with 4 picks in the national draft only.

do you think they will promote both miles as good as done,  and thomas, i do.
with 4 nd picks that means 6 have to be cut.
will we ignore trade and f/a period i dont think so. if we  do indeed participate in trade week,  use 4 nd picks and promote the two rookies we will have to cut more than 6 from the list proper.

so far we effectively have
in - miles
out - king
still looking for 6 more plus rookies.

[Judge Roughneck]

Dea is named as an emergency this week, a important week in regards to winning = finals

so essentially the club would be delisting someone they rate in the best 25

even for richmond this would be unusual list analysis and strategy

[WilliamPowell]

do you think they will promote both miles as good as done, 

Claw, it was announced last week that Miles has been a given a two year senior list contract so it is done

Agree with Ramps, reckon Dea is safe if they don't try and trade him.

Would think he like the majority of our list would be available for trade for the right deal but if not traded reckon he will get another contract, won't be delisted IMHO

[the claw]

do you think they will promote both miles as good as done, 

Claw, it was announced last week that Miles has been a given a two year senior list contract so it is done

Agree with Ramps, reckon Dea is safe if they don't try and trade him.

Would think he like the majority of our list would be available for trade for the right deal but if not traded reckon he will get another contract, won't be delisted IMHO

fair enough wp.
im just trying to get a handle on what they may do.
they wont cut contracted players imo.
theres 12 or 14 uncontracted players  and delisting will come from these.
imo theywill promote thomas to go with miles. so thats two to cut
imo they will use 3 possibly 4 nd picks that is potentially 4 more delistings.
imo they will participate in either trade or f/a so theres one more to be traded out or cut
 so with the above scenario the only question to be answered is who are the most likely 6 or 7  uncontracted players to be cut. we have one already in king, so 5 or 6 to go.

[tigs2011]

I don't think they'll delist Dea. They've put to much work into him and he is a very improved player anyway. I'm thinking they will go with 4 picks in the national draft only.

do you think they will promote both miles as good as done,  and thomas, i do.
with 4 nd picks that means 6 have to be cut.
will we ignore trade and f/a period i dont think so. if we  do indeed participate in trade week,  use 4 nd picks and promote the two rookies we will have to cut more than 6 from the list proper.

so far we effectively have
in - miles
out - king
still looking for 6 more plus rookies.

I don't think Thomas will be promoted. Though I do think he will be kept.

I'd say we need 5 list spots. Miles plus 4 picks. (Too hard to guess trades)

King gone already so need four more. Helbig and Edwards should definitely be gone. Arnot and O'Hanlon I don't think will make it. Or maybe a Knights gets delisted and rookied for his last year so he's not taking up a list spot.

[MintOnLamb]

A question to the knowledgeable ones>
Would/Could Arnot be a replacement for Thomas how would you rate them if you had to pick one or the other>??
Could Bannfield go into the Centre and be a Thomas type?
Watching arnott in a couple of games he seems to be pretty hard at it and a keen tackler  and Banfiled seems to like tackling and is a good reverse player as well. Sad to think banfield hasn't been given a chance after drafting him

[tony_montana]

Reckon they'll go with the below

Definates from senior list
King
Helbig
Edwards
O'Hanlon

Thin Ice
Knights
Elton
Arnott
Griffiths most likely to be traded as has better offers on the table from other clubs


rookies
Darrou
Williams
Banfield

[tigs2011]

A question to the knowledgeable ones>
Would/Could Arnot be a replacement for Thomas how would you rate them if you had to pick one or the other>??
Could Bannfield go into the Centre and be a Thomas type?
Watching arnott in a couple of games he seems to be pretty hard at it and a keen tackler  and Banfiled seems to like tackling and is a good reverse player as well. Sad to think banfield hasn't been given a chance after drafting him

I think they are both pretty crap. Thomas is currently the better player and I'd keep him for one more on the rookie list and get rid of Arnot. Miles is ahead of both.

Banfield I think will be gone. Can't find the footy. His defensive game is very good though.

[tony_montana]

A question to the knowledgeable ones>
Would/Could Arnot be a replacement for Thomas how would you rate them if you had to pick one or the other>??
Could Bannfield go into the Centre and be a Thomas type?
Watching arnott in a couple of games he seems to be pretty hard at it and a keen tackler  and Banfiled seems to like tackling and is a good reverse player as well. Sad to think banfield hasn't been given a chance after drafting him

The day Arnott came in for Thomas and was played exclusively in the forward pocket to allow petterd to play in the guts was the day that confirmed the club has stamped arnotts papers. He was duly dropped the following week. I think its sad as I rate Arnott and love his attack on the ball and man and would love to se him given a fair chance to see what hes got.

Banfield I dont know enough about on this seasons form, but historically i dont see his skillset as someone who could be play in and under. Almost exclusively a small fwd with pace who harrasses well but skills are subpar

[Judge Roughneck]

dont think Banfield is a realistic starting midfeilder

then again hardwick plays grigg their for the senior team so htf would know

[big tone]

I'd do this

King- retired
Helbig- delist
O'Hanlon- delist
Edwards- delist
Batchelor- trade for a 3rd rounder
Griffiths- trade for a pick anywhere from 15 to 25
Jackson- trade, we have outgrown him, trade for a 2nd/3rd rounder

Petterd- rookie list
Thomas- rookie list

Miles now on the list but 8 spots on the list proper.

Get Chip Frawley and Garlett, so that leaves 6 spots

[Judge Roughneck]

Mcintosh was born 1994 (20)

Arnot Darrou Elton Ohanlon 1993 (21)