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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #390 on: November 14, 2014, 11:50:13 AM »
Duggan for me

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #391 on: November 14, 2014, 11:59:15 AM »
Callum Twomey has his latest top 30 out today. He's got us linked to 5 draftees ...



It has been an interesting season for Wright, who started the year as a possible No.1 choice and ends it as one of the main mysteries of the draft. At his best, Wright is a marking, leading, straight-kicking giant who is unstoppable up forward. He can move into the ruck, runs a level 14 beep test and his pace and agility results are sound. But Wright still needs to work on his contested marking for a player his height, and he can be pushed off the ball too easily. Back and hamstring injuries have limited his time in the gym to build his strength. A knee injury ruled him out of the Calder Cannons' Grand Final defeat and testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine, but he should be fully fit by the time he starts pre-season.

Where does he go? The big question. Gold Coast (pick No.8), Geelong (No.10) and Richmond (No.12) will consider him if he got past Greater Western Sydney's batch of picks, but other clubs in the teens have started doing more homework on him in the expectation he drops.


Weller brings class and composure to the midfield group of this year. Best suited as an outside player, Weller can find the footy and use it. His kicking is elite and he makes life easier for forwards, often directing them where to lead with his kicks. As the year went on he used his top-end speed more, regularly spotting a gap and then breaking through it, and he also showed a liking for edging forward and slotting goals. At his size he's not a big midfielder, and he still needs to develop his inside game, but he has plenty going for him. He's a professional, hard-working prospect who takes nothing for chance and thinks a lot about his game and how to improve.

Where does he go? Gold Coast is the obvious link and he's of interest to them, but that may be for its second pick (No.15). West Coast and Richmond also like him and further back Essendon and Carlton will look closely.


A cool head and even cooler left foot match up to make Duggan a prospect with a strong draft CV. He moved this year from a small defensive role to the midfield, where he also became a regular ball-winner and keen tackler. Duggan makes it easier for others around him: he's happy to play a team-focused role, and to feed the ball out, but is just as capable of running with it and making the play. He's low-risk. His kicking is strong and he's able to put his body on the line when it matters. Among clubs Duggan is seen as one of the most presentable players and best to interview, and he is well liked by his teammates.

Where does he go? Firming as a pick in the 8-12 range, with Gold Coast a big shot. West Coast and Richmond are also in the hunt.


Durdin ended a tough year in the best form he had shown all season, dominating in the ruck for West Adelaide as it claimed the SANFL under-18s premiership. But, despite his natural flair as a running big man, Durdin won't be tall enough to hold down that spot at the top level. He seems better placed to continue as a key defender. There he can use his mobility and marking strength to stop and then repel, but he's also been used in attack at times. A thumb injury at the start of this season threw out his confidence and he didn't manage to get back to the form he would have liked, but Durdin still has plenty to offer. 

Where does he go? Difficult to place. Richmond, Fremantle and Adelaide will consider if he isn't taken inside the first 10, with Geelong a shot.


You might need to watch Ellis closely before you can appreciate what he does well, as he isn't the type of player with a blinding highlights package. However, with some inspection, you'll notice he's a damaging kick, he reads the play smartly, doesn't get flustered, and can play in a number of spots. Ellis doesn't have the breakaway speed that others might possess, but he does the little things right. He had a foot injury at the end of the season that ended up being diagnosed as a crack, which might push back his start to the pre-season. At times this year he was deployed to use his skills across half-back but appears more at home in the midfield. Ellis is a quietly determined personality who understands the work that's ahead.

Where does he go? The Tigers like him and have put in a fair bit of work. North Melbourne will strongly consider at pick No.16.

Full top 30: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/phantom-draft-form-guide-november-update

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #392 on: November 14, 2014, 12:11:08 PM »
VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-11-14/phantom-form-guide-special

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Who's on your club's radar? Chat live on the AFL website with draft expert Cal Twomey from 12.30pm AEDT:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/chat-live-with-draft-expert-callum-twomey

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #393 on: November 14, 2014, 02:04:55 PM »
Duggan or Wright assuming one of them slip to us

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #394 on: November 14, 2014, 04:56:40 PM »
From Callum Twomey's live chat today:

"Tigers have some midfielders with class on their radar - Liam Duggan, Lachie Weller and Corey Ellis."

"Dylan, if the choice came, I think it'd be Duggan."

"Adam, best kicks in the draft in no particular order: Duggan, Weller, Brayshaw, Ellis and Ahern."

Twomey all has West Coast tossing up between Duggan and Weller.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/chat-live-with-draft-expert-callum-twomey

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #395 on: November 14, 2014, 08:05:23 PM »
I'd be happy if they got Wright providing he slipped through to us.

Can never have too many KPF's on your list. And makes Giffiths/Vickery/McBean all the more tradeable if necessary.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #396 on: November 14, 2014, 09:11:05 PM »
be very surprised if durdin slips outside the top 10. i prefer him to wright.
 it will be 2 or  3 yrs before he even plays a game at afl  because of his size but this kid has more potential than most mids in this draft and hes one of the better talls.

would take him in a heart beat if hes still there at 12   knowing full well he wont help us in anyway in the immediate future. seems to me thats what this club is all about the last 2 or 3 yrs the immediate future.
imo theres some serious undervaluing of the talls going on and their potential.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #397 on: November 14, 2014, 09:51:45 PM »
we pretty well know regardless of what tall is there at 12 we will take a mid.
hope its not liam duggan. i just dont rate this kid.  i think his pace is ordinary and i reckon hes panics under pressure. i must admit like a lot i havent seen much of a lot of the kids and it may be ive caught duggan at the wrong times.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #398 on: November 14, 2014, 10:00:39 PM »
be very surprised if durdin slips outside the top 10. i prefer him to wright.
 it will be 2 or  3 yrs before he even plays a game at afl  because of his size but this kid has more potential than most mids in this draft and hes one of the better talls.

would take him in a heart beat if hes still there at 12   knowing full well he wont help us in anyway in the immediate future. seems to me thats what this club is all about the last 2 or 3 yrs the immediate future.
imo theres some serious undervaluing of the talls going on and their potential.

Thing that concerns me with durdin is his best performances by some stretch have been in the ruck, at afl level he won't be able to do that due to his size?

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #399 on: November 14, 2014, 10:07:00 PM »
be very surprised if durdin slips outside the top 10. i prefer him to wright.
 it will be 2 or  3 yrs before he even plays a game at afl  because of his size but this kid has more potential than most mids in this draft and hes one of the better talls.

would take him in a heart beat if hes still there at 12   knowing full well he wont help us in anyway in the immediate future. seems to me thats what this club is all about the last 2 or 3 yrs the immediate future.
imo theres some serious undervaluing of the talls going on and their potential.

Thing that concerns me with durdin is his best performances by some stretch have been in the ruck, at afl level he won't be able to do that due to his size?
yeah ive heard that as well.
just the way he marks the ball and his agility and athleticism. i see a better version of carlisle in many ways.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #400 on: November 14, 2014, 10:11:48 PM »
I'm still on the Weller and Duggan bandwagon. If they pick Ellis it will dead set give me the shizts

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #401 on: November 14, 2014, 11:10:48 PM »
They like to reach

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #402 on: November 15, 2014, 12:40:28 AM »
I'm still on the Weller and Duggan bandwagon. If they pick Ellis it will dead set give me the shizts
why duggan ramps??. of all the mids linked to us hes the one i least want at 12.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #403 on: November 15, 2014, 01:44:11 AM »
I'm still on the Weller and Duggan bandwagon. If they pick Ellis it will dead set give me the shizts
why duggan ramps??. of all the mids linked to us hes the one i least want at 12.

What have you seen of Duggan out of curiosity?

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #404 on: November 15, 2014, 05:00:19 AM »
From Callum Twomey's latest audio podcast ...

* Latest talk is Jarrod Pickett to GWS at 4.
* Laverde most likely to the Pies at 5.
* Ahern could slip to pick 14-15 if he doesn't get selected at 4-5.
* Wright to go no earlier than pick 8. Geelong will consider him at 10 as well De Goey.
* Richmond & West Coast waiting to see which midfielders fall through - Out of Duggan, Weller & Ellis for Richmond while the Eagles are keen on Duggan too.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/draft-podcast-two-weeks-to-go