3/what a load of gobbldygook. our coaches rightly recognised what needed to happen to improve beyond a middling side and our players were not up to the challenge.
4/ of course we can make whole sale changes most of those being touted as delistings hardly contributed a thing to the senior side this yr. you could cut 12 players and lose hardly a thing.
in fact with what a lot have contributed its a must we cut hard hard.
jackson retired we have to replace him regardless played just 10 injury riddled games. king retired played just 3, edwards 3, ohanlon 1, arnot 4, helbig 0, stephenson 1, darrou 0, banfield 0,
thats just the ones already gone. there plenty more you could targeytt who have contributed little not just this yr but for yrs.
Claw - I don't expect you see that the club needed a more balanced view when seeking to improve. You would have us continually turning over our list every year and wondering why we continue to fail. In saying that every name you mentioned above to leave the club I agree with which is a fair number of delistings. Those changes will bring in plenty of new faces to the club I would suggest.
finally i chuckle at the hype around the wining run. theres at least 5 of those wins that quite frankly were just deplorable where the standard was just poor and there was no real improvement.we played almost as poorly in a lot of games as we did early in the yr but hey we won em and that makes it all good.
if anyone is happy with what transpired this yr then they are indeed very accepting of mediocrity.
Again I disagree with you claw. If you look at the wins in isolation then yes you probably do have some justification to your opinion here but you can never look at games on there own and try and draw a perspective on a teams season. Every club has ordinary games but it is the mark of a good side when they still find a way to win those games. Sydney, Hawks, Feo, Geelong and Port all had a string of games they would rather forget but they still found a way to win.
What I argue is the manner in which we won. We changed our attitudes and accountability towards each other so that losing was no longer acceptable and not fulfiling your role regardless of the score line was not an option. Culture change.
looking at games in isolation is important.it is the only way to gauge actual improvement. you can win plenty of games each yr just through a favorable draw play badly and still win.
actual winning is a very small part of determining actual improvement. in many of those games we won in a row im sorry to say we didnt change our attitude or accountability we struck struggling sides or out of form sides and scraped over the line in very poor standard games. despite winning there was few positives to be had.
i said at the end of last yr that i thought we played better footy the yr before yet we won more games. we clearly had a massive drop off this yr and that includes games which we won.
Stripes have you actually looked at the number of players most clubs turn over each yr, ffs the two grand finalists in the last 3 yrs have turned over more than half their lists. 24 respectively, yet they have a better deeper core group than us.
Teams lists are a continual work in progress, forever evolving and the numbers are surprising. There is no place because of so few numbers on them to hang onto a multitude of under performing players who have had time..
id expect even if we won a flag we would still turn over anywhere from 7 to 9 players as a minimum. As club with over half a list of non performers and needing to still build in the short term we need to do more.We need to catch the top sides.
Im not going on about always cutting deep. you offend me with that comment. Obviously im saying we need to cut deep until the list is at a stage where we have no need to do this.w
Where we have actually built a decent core and built some decent depth of which we have failed to do either.
Heres a list of players i envision based on attributes, form, and time in our system that we will turn over in the next 2 yrs not including those we have already cut this yr.
Batchelor, Chaplin, Dea, Elton, Foley, Gordon, Grigg, Hampson, Knights, Lloyd, Newman, Petterd, Thomas, Vickery. there are some i havent mentioned that i personally dont rate and ive not included juniors of which im sure some will fail.
of those mentioned 4 or so will be 30 plus and likely retire anyway. there will be rookies from this yr who will fail as so many do.
it is important that we utilise the nd more than we have in recent yrs. its important that we trade well that we target and take players with f/a that we continually turn over the rookie list.
just doing what is normal entails turning over 8 or so players every yr.
