Anyway gettting this thread back on topic after petty personal insults
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did u read what i said, i said we play better when he is not there, when we were 5 - 1, yes he was playing and he had no impact, we would have been 5-1 without him too!
Define how the side "plays better" X? Do all the other blokes who don't have a footy brain when Johnson's there suddenly find one? Do they start playing running team-orientated attacking footy for the whole 4 quarters? Do they stop being so Richo conscious? Do they suddenly stop missing 11 straightforward set shots at goal per game? Do they suddenly learn how to tackle properly instead of doing silly swan dives and doing a good impression of thin air as an opponent tries to run around or through them? ..... With all due respect X come off it!
now we must stop traeting this guy like some hero, i was at the game on sunday and i loved the fact hawk supporters see str8 through their captian and acknowledge he is pooh1 but tiger faithful believe sugar is what he aint!
Who's treating him like a hero? I've always said he's a B-grade footballer as the only A-grader we have is Browny. I'm just defending him against IMHO ridiculous comments that put him at the same level as Richard Lounder and blame all our list deficiencies on him!
wayne campbell is a tiger legend and one of teh best captians and players we have ever had, but he constantly was reminded by many ppl and tigers he was a pooh captain but he was fantastic!
Yes by why they did they hang crap on him? Because we sucked in the midfield and had no depth and he copped all the blame for that because he had the letter (c) after his name in the Record (see the similarities!). It was only when ironically a fully-fit Johnson and Cogs joined him in the centre for the first 8 rounds of 2003 that Cambo prior to his calf/achillies injuries could prove his critics wrong with decent support around him and Tiger fans realised he wasn't useless. In the AFL today you need at least 10 "bona-fide" midfielders in your rotation to not only win games but to survive the war of attrition that is a 22 round AFL season. We're lucky if we have 5-6. We have no depth.
i honestly believe sugar does not have what it takes to lead this club, and i believe we need a person in the mold of a tuck to lead us, he has an impact every game. give shane one more yr, if he kicks behind next yr, give him the captaincy in 2007
Wasn't that the whole plan anyway. Hardly new news! It was hard to find an obvious leader and leadership group from our senior players after 2004 so Wallace over the preseason went through a process to determine out of the 4 who would be the best leader. Johnson was selected the best from
what we currently have available with the view to eventually hand the captaincy over to the next generation after they find their feet at AFL level. Once again blaming Johnson for an average list. It says it all that 2 of the blokes up for selection had just walked in the door yet were deemed them more capable of leading the side better than most of the existing crop.
dont laugh mt, maybe ur sleeping with sugar, but joel richo wayne have all been better on and off field leaders than sugar this yr and shane tuck , it may sound funny to you, but his presence has influenced many games this yr, and sugar has done jack pooh, so u remind him that when you kiss him goodnight tonight
LOL! Geez X is that the best insult you can do?!
I'd be offended if it wasn't so ridiculously funny
. It's amazing how you put every fault of Johnson's under the heaviest scrutiny yet most of the others you recommend in his place are immuned.
IMO it wouldn't matter who had the little (c) after their name some Tiger "supporters" would find reasons to bag them. The RFC captaincy is almost a poison chalice these days
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