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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #90 on: June 19, 2015, 04:11:52 AM »
Yes must've been locals and Australian Rules fans yelling out "Queenslander!" and "Gallen's a wanker!".....

Again very poor generalisation, actually extremely foolsih.

There were 91+ k people there

25k people came in from interstate

To suggest that the only people yelling out came from the 25k interstaters is ridiculous.

It doesn't matter who did it, it should not have happened. It was disgraceful behaviour

But I suppose it's easier to blame one group than to whack our own even if they deserve it.

From where I was sitting, it wasn't just the interstaters who were moronic bogans

WP were you born in/are you originally from a different state by any chance?
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #91 on: June 19, 2015, 06:58:05 AM »
Yes must've been locals and Australian Rules fans yelling out "Queenslander!" and "Gallen's a wanker!".....

Again very poor generalisation, actually extremely foolsih.

There were 91+ k people there

25k people came in from interstate

To suggest that the only people yelling out came from the 25k interstaters is ridiculous.

It doesn't matter who did it, it should not have happened. It was disgraceful behaviour

But I suppose it's easier to blame one group than to whack our own even if they deserve it.

From where I was sitting, it wasn't just the interstaters who were moronic bogans

WP were you born in/are you originally from a different state by any chance?

Nope Dooks a very proud Australian born & raised in Victoria. Outside of 12 months when my family lived in Nthn Vic I've always lived in Melbourne

Not that I see the relevance TBH, bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and what happened was bad behaviour. The people who did it should be ashamed. It should only about WHO did it, WHO sunk so low
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2015, 07:22:01 AM »
Yes must've been locals and Australian Rules fans yelling out "Queenslander!" and "Gallen's a wanker!".....

Again very poor generalisation, actually extremely foolsih.

There were 91+ k people there

25k people came in from interstate

To suggest that the only people yelling out came from the 25k interstaters is ridiculous.

It doesn't matter who did it, it should not have happened. It was disgraceful behaviour

But I suppose it's easier to blame one group than to whack our own even if they deserve it.

From where I was sitting, it wasn't just the interstaters who were moronic bogans

WP were you born in/are you originally from a different state by any chance?

Nope Dooks a very proud Australian born & raised in Victoria. Outside of 12 months when my family lived in Nthn Vic I've always lived in Melbourne

Not that I see the relevance TBH, bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and what happened was bad behaviour. The people who did it should be ashamed. It should only about WHO did it, WHO sunk so low

Fair enough WP and that gives more credence to your point.

I think where the assumption that it was comes from interstate is based on that sort of behaviour being foreign to afl and cricket tributes (in fact most sport in this city) at major events in Melbourne.

Maybe it's more of a Rugby League culture thing. Or maybe there were just a lot of people on the turps.

Thoughts?
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2015, 09:11:04 AM »
Yes must've been locals and Australian Rules fans yelling out "Queenslander!" and "Gallen's a wanker!".....

Again very poor generalisation, actually extremely foolsih.

There were 91+ k people there

25k people came in from interstate

To suggest that the only people yelling out came from the 25k interstaters is ridiculous.

It doesn't matter who did it, it should not have happened. It was disgraceful behaviour

But I suppose it's easier to blame one group than to whack our own even if they deserve it.

From where I was sitting, it wasn't just the interstaters who were moronic bogans

I go to a lot/most of the big events in Melbourne and from experience I havent heard a pin drop for years now.
I blame the interstaters for sure.

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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #94 on: June 19, 2015, 10:08:38 AM »
What I learned in 20 years of living in Queensland is "queeeeenslaanduuuhhh!" is about the only thing they know how to say, aye.

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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2015, 10:12:38 AM »
Not saying we dont have bogans, there is plenty of those

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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #96 on: June 19, 2015, 11:16:37 AM »
Fair enough WP and that gives more credence to your point.

I think where the assumption that it was comes from interstate is based on that sort of behaviour being foreign to afl and cricket tributes (in fact most sport in this city) at major events in Melbourne.

Maybe it's more of a Rugby League culture thing. Or maybe there were just a lot of people on the turps.

Thoughts?

There were alot of people on the turps but that's nothing new, that happens all the time as well. Only thing that appeared to be over different was the queues to buy the turps. Heard some people say they had queued for over 20 minutes to buy some beers

Interesting point you make the behavoiur being foreign to sporting events here. One of my biggest "bug bears" is people who talk through or refuse to stand for the national anthem, to me that is incredbily disrespectful but it happens all the time and no one ever talks about that.

I remember at the MCG last year at the Hafey Tribute game where I was sitting I heard people talking, heard one person yell out "go tigers". That was disrespectful and downright disgusting but no one talked about it? Don't think the person was an interstater

Couple of years back I went to the Melb Storm ANZAC day game against the Warriors, someone yelled out during the ceremony (during the break in the last post IIRC) "Go Storm". How disgusting is that? Did we hear one word about it no.

I've been in Perth at Subi during an ANZAC round and people yelled out there...

My personal view was that the one of the problems is something the organisers created and that was by having the tribute after the national anthem. We all now at AFL games that as soon as the anthem is over people start yelling out for their teams, that's a cultural thing as it happens all the time. It was a stupid decision. Again doesn't make what happened right but it did IMHO impact on it

Last year at the SOO in Brisbane they had a tribute for the late Arthur Beetson, the crowd though predomiantly from QLD had folks from NSW who travelled, during that tribute you would noat have heard a pin drop

So my point remains the same to suggest that this boorish behaviour was solely the result of interstaters or that is a cultural thing of NRL is not realistic and ridiculous.

I go to a lot/most of the big events in Melbourne and from experience I havent heard a pin drop for years now.
I blame the interstaters for sure.


Sorry cub but IMV that's a cop out because it's the easy way out. I too have been to many big sporting events in Melb plus interstate and I've witnessed bogan behaviour at our events. Certainly not to the extent to what happened on Wed night but it does happen and to sugesst otherwise is wrong

just seems easier to blame the outsiders than blame our own

Will keep saying it this should be about the WHO did and not where they came from



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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2015, 11:20:46 AM »
No where near to that extend - agree to disagree on this one

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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #98 on: June 20, 2015, 01:56:19 AM »
Random Vics & AFL followers yelling out Queenslander and Gallen's a wanker...yeah righteo WP.....
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #99 on: June 20, 2015, 08:28:11 AM »
Random Vics & AFL followers yelling out Queenslander and Gallen's a wanker...yeah righteo WP.....

So the people a few rows behind me who were talking about the AFL game they went to the previous weekend during the anthem and where one was wearing an AFL club hoody who yelled out "Gallen you Dog" weren't actually AFL people at the SOO but interstates in disguise? righteo then.



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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #100 on: June 20, 2015, 03:22:15 PM »
Yes I believe you WP.....was all Victorians & AFL people yelling out just to make Northerners & NRL people look bad...
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #101 on: June 21, 2015, 01:42:33 PM »
Yes I believe you WP.....was all Victorians & AFL people yelling out just to make Northerners & NRL people look bad...

Nice twist of things to suit you purpose

I am not disputing for one moment that there were interstates that yelled out.

But what I am disputing/saying and will continue to do is this farcical argument that the only people yelling out and being disrespectful were the interstaters.

This is simply not true and to suggest otherwise is simply ridiculous. But hey no doubt it is a helluva lot easier to point fingers in that direction

I will repeat for the last time it is not about where the morons came from it is about who did it. They are gutless, disrespecting bogans and I don't give a crap where they live it is not relevant to the behaviour they dished up. They were a disgrace end of story

But if making this a state based issue to try hide the abhorrent behaviour of all the people who stooped to this pitiful level works for some people then that's there choice
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 10:09:59 PM by WilliamPowell »
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #102 on: June 21, 2015, 05:02:16 PM »

This is simply not true and to suggest otherwise is simply ridiculous. But hey no doubt it is a helluva lot easier to point gingers in that direction


What do redheads have to do with it?

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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #103 on: June 21, 2015, 07:57:15 PM »
Obviously a Freudian slip from WP there, ginger = maroon/Paul Vauntin...subconcious admission he's wrong. :shh :whistle
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Re: Ron Clarke RIP
« Reply #104 on: June 21, 2015, 09:30:41 PM »
i thought he was talking about flashing brown eyes?
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