Areas of Need for 2016 and beyond

[Penelope]

if we got treloar, bennel and yarran it would be an extraordinary effort.

[Hellenic Tiger]

To me reading some of the stuff on here is crazy.
To lose either Ellis or Lennon for Yarran or whatever is crazy.
These kids have upsize all over them.
These kids haven't yet played 20 games yet and to me look the goods.

If Carlton want a first rounder how about Conca. Was a pick 6.
We played most of the year without him and lets cut our losses has plateued the last 3 years or so.
If anything I feel he now has a history of soft tissue injuries from the Elim in 2013 and it will not get better IMHO.

If we are in the market for Aish, Bennell or Treloar to me that would be an upgrade on Conca a mid for a mid without giving up any of our recent first rounders. It seems Carlton may also be in the need of more hardened experienced bodies to help the inexperienced kids. Its how we market it and they see it. Lennon and Ellis should be non negotiables. If they aren't Yarran is not worth it.

[WA Tiger]

When I say Ellis, I mean B Ellis, not C Ellis. I gree with you Don.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Personally I'd still keep Brandon Ellis. Kid has been in the U23 team of the year 3 years now.
If we snag one or more of Treloar, Aish, Bennell his outside run and carry will be important.

We missed that big time last week given Cotchin put in such a howler.

Now that we have those B or B+ types we can just give them up IMHO.

Conca is just a dime a dozen footballer.

Titch Edwards is another one whose 26-27 and could help a side like Carlton or GC or GWS.

We aint giving up long term but we are offering up something of value that can help a lower

ranked side get competitive slowly but surely.

[Penelope]

I'd happily give up B ellis for teloar.
Wouldnt be too concerned to give him up for yarran, youd hope maybe for a pick upgrade as well. Ellis concerns me with the way he still blazes away under perceived pressure.
get the ball in yarrans hands out wide and he use the ball better than b Ellis.

not sure I'd swap him for Benell. I get the impression Bennell could be a very good player, but is he coke head?

[Hellenic Tiger]

Al I heard GWS were not interested in players but picks.

That's why I believe offering our first rounder this year and next may get this deal over the line

as opposed to what Collingwood may be offering.

[WilliamPowell]

Al I heard GWS were not interested in players but picks.

That's why I believe offering our first rounder this year and next may get this deal over the line

as opposed to what Collingwood may be offering.

Also the player the Pies are offering (Witts) is contracted and is refusing to be traded 

[Yeahright]

If our two first round picks is going to get the deal done, couldn't Collingwood just offer the same thing with there better picks

[YellowandBlackBlood]

If our two first round picks is going to get the deal done, couldn't Collingwood just offer the same thing with there better picks

They want Aish too.....

[Penelope]

and about 30 others too

[Yeahright]

If our two first round picks is going to get the deal done, couldn't Collingwood just offer the same thing with there better picks

They want Aish too.....

Yeah but Brisbane want players

[the claw]

Glaringly obvious..

1. Ruckman, need a ready made one. Maric as serviceable as he is, is 30 and probably done.
Gettable Options: Kruezar, Leunberger, Hickey/Longer. Don't see Hampson as a serious option.

2. Small Forward, deja vu. Need one desperately. Ideally ready made.
Gettable Options: Steve Johnson

3. 3rd Backman/Swing Man. Wasted a position in Bachelor and Griffths. Should have a swing man that can play a 3rd tall forward or 3rd tall backman depending on match ups.
Gettable Options: Lachie Henderson, Carlisle.

4. A Grade Mid/ Elite Mid, we rely on too few. Weve said for a long time our 2nd tier cant be relied upon in big games if our top tier go down. Grigg, Ellis and co are not Kelly/Ling like or Shiels/Burgoyne like. Need another reliable mid.
Gettable Options: Treloar, Bennell
Roughy: Would look at Armitage again. We were close last year in a trade.

Thats a great op and i agree with those sentiments. I would also add a young key forward to the list and there is a great need for a big inside mid around the 190/90 mark. I think our mids get shut down because of their size. One reason why i have thought Matt Thomas should have been played again this yr is his inside ball winning, cps,  his tackling  size and willingness to lay a block to help out fellow mids. A  quicker higher quality version of Thomas would be ideal.

Would add Jarred Redden to your ruck list of targets..
Would persevere with Butler as a small forward and if we managed to snare Bennell he could spend time in the role as well as in the middle..
Johnson would add to our midfield as well as help out our fwd line.

Would add Henderson to the tall backline list of targets with Carlisle the priority. Carlisle and Rance would be a formidable combo. Would look at Plowman or Litherland for the third tall role to replace Batchelor.
Litherland at 193cm  would not only provide support in the air but plenty of run out of defense.

[Stalin]

I'd happily give up B ellis for teloar.

id swap my car for a Lamborghini Veneno

[Penelope]

I'd swap my missus for a boat

[Yeahright]

I'd swap my missus for a boat

I'll take that offer