Board Election 2015 / Chadwick & O’Shannassy re-elected [update]

[WilliamPowell]

It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy

You believe he can't in way shape of from tell us what he intends to bring to the table outside of some sort false promise of a premiership and how much he has given to the club?

Do you think he needs some sort of inside info to be able to articulate what he impact he can have on the sponsorship stakes, marketing? Key components of increasing revenues and improving off field fortunes, which by the way is the key role of a director

You think he needs inside info so he can tell us his knowledge and understanding of corporate governance requirements? You don't think he can tell us what sub committees he'd look to serve on based on his skill set and help them improve?

Don't think you need any inside info or answers from the board to be able present this sort of stuff to members, these represent the things you stand for.

So despite him being an outsider, he can tell us a lot more than he appears to be willing to do without hiding behind an excuse of not having info or answers

Just my take

[yandb]

It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy

That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

Except the leaks through Caro they want leaked.

[Diocletian]

A ship in the harbour is safe but that's not what ships are built for....

[blaisee]

This article is exactly why I'd prefer guys like Russo. People ask what prospective board members would do to help the club and yet we rarely see the same accountability from existing board members

Have I missed something???? I've checked out the Russo website etc

And I keep coming back to the same thing

What exactly has Russo said he is going to do? Or more to the point how is going to bring about the premiership success that consistently goes on about.

I am not happy with a number of things at board level, board appointed directors being one and the noms committee being another (but there is more than those).

I know some people are unhappy about how the replacement for the Walsh came about but under the constitution that appointment has been made correctly (part of the constitution that wasn't changed BTW)

But and people won't like reading this; we has members need to take some responsilibity for part of situation we find ourselves in. People allowed the constitutional changes to go through. We are now reaping to a point what was sown by apathy

The board and in particular the CEO pushed hard for these changes. As MT mentioned 3 people turned up on the night and voted against the changes (4 votes in all as one person held a proxy). Everyone else by either attendance and voting or more than likely not attending and voting meant the changes went through no questions.

However, we now seem to have people complaining about how people get on the board

Alternatively, we have people who are standing for election that offer very little substance in their pitch other than to criticise the current board (with a bit of White ant-ing behind the scenes thrown in for good measure in it seems). Or the standard play on people's emotion by promising things they refuse to give any detail on how they intend to deliver. Where were they when all these changes happened?

Anyways Off the soapbox and back to Caro's article

IMHO Caro makes a number of valid points, yes the headline is emotive (she doesn't create the headline; domain of the editors) but parts of her article ar more than fair

Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?



Edit: Fixed quoting

[YellowandBlackBlood]

To be fair, if you look over most teams websites you cannot see objectives spelt out.

I think it's obvious now. We are aiming to win a premiership. Whether we do achieve this or not, nobody knows. Look at the saints and bulldogs. One premiership each over one hundred years. Just shows how difficult it is. That, of course,  should not deter us.

[Petey]

no leaks. you must not know anyone or listen to anyone

[Hard Roar Tiger]

It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy

That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.

[WilliamPowell]

Willy I have a question that I hope yiu can shed some light on.

What is the board gunna do?

3 0 75 has ended, what is the new plan the new objectives

Do yiu know what they are because I haven't ever met anyone that does know?

Edit: Fixed quoting

Firstly the 3 0 75 was developed by Benny Gale as CEO, it was the strategic plan, vision statement for the club. It got put to the board who signed off on it and who worked with management to ensure all the pillars, directions were in place to enable the club to strive to achieve the objectives of the plan.

That's their role.

Let's be clear here a boards role is not hands on in the day to day running of the business. People seem to think that somehow it is.

But to your question What are the clubs objectives now? To be honest I don't know but I'd also be directing the question to not just the board but the club's management

[Petey]

why do we rarely hear anything from the president. i'd like to be kept informed of the clubs plans and goals

[WilliamPowell]

why do we rarely hear anything from the president. i'd like to be kept informed of the clubs plans and goals

That's actually funny in an ironic sort of way when we had a president speaking to the media a fair bit people constantly complained about it and wanted him to shut up. So whitish is it


(not having a go at you Petey but more a general comment)

[Francois Jackson]

It's not awe inspiring but he is asking questions of the board that WP is asking of him (an outsider).
I mean seriously how on earth can he answer these questions when the board cannot or isn't prepared to answer?
Me thinks board is fat and lazy

That's a ridiculous statement.  The current board have totally turned the club around from a financial basket case to a club that has made a profit year after year after year.  This is on the background of increased spending on the football department. We have record membership and the AFL now give us unprecedented exposure with Friday night games.
FFS do you think that this just happens?  It takes a lot of work.  Ok, we all hate losing finals but the bloody board don't run out onto the ground on game day.
The biggest plus from tbe current board is that there are no leaks. When was the last time you could say that about Richmond?
Calling them fat and lazy is one of the most ridiculous things I've read and you give them no credit for turning this vlub around to being one of the biggest clubs in the land.

2nd those sentiments.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Good work Y & B.

They have proven to be sophisticated charity workers.
Norf, Saints, Bulldogs (in particular) would be insolvent had they been lumped with Richmond's board.
It's well known that the supporters are what has kept the club afloat, the board have a bunch of accountants who know how to save money. That only gets you so far.
The fact you call it ridiculous just shows how out of touch you are.

fantastic post.

[Petey]

Suppose it depends on what he/she is saying. we don't need a president who says too much, I'd personally just like more information as to what the board's goals for the future are. and the token answers are not what we need.

[WilliamPowell]

As I wanted to finalise my vote this weekend I decided in fairness to venture over to Joe Russo's website and see if there was anything there that tells me more than what the media has reported.

What caught my eye was that indeed Mr Russo does say that without JDF revenue the club would have made a loss. He goes as far as to say that JDF revenue should NOT be included in the clubs results see: http://anewgameplan.com.au

As I posted last night the club is legal required to include all JDF revenue in its results. Failure to do so is a clear breach of accounting standards and corporation law on this country. To suggest they shouldn't is foolish

Also as I posted the deed for the operation of the JDF isvery very clear. Funds can only be used improving player facilities. All money is kept in a separate bank account which it is as shown in this year's financial report and every other fin report issued since the JDFs inception

It is disappointing that before making the statement he has, Mr Russo didn't check and get clarity on how the JDF works and the legal requirements that need to be followed.

And before anyone jumps on me accusing me of whacking for the sake of it and the club won't  answer his questions. To get this info he doesn't need the detail from the club, he just needs to ask any accountant and considering he runs his own business I reckon it is a fair bet he has one of his own 

"Without donations"?  I would suggest going by what I've read that is simply untrue. Take away any line of revenue you can say the club wouldnt have made a profit.

If Mr Russo is referring to contributions made to the FTF or the Jack Dyer Foundation, then I suggest he take a lesson in accounting standards and corporation law and understand what a business is required to do with regard to revenue they control. One hopes he is not "scare mongering" regarding the off field

As for the JDF, same rules apply in that in that the club ultimately controls the funds so they are bound by law to include it as part of its revenue and profit. The difference between the JDF and the FTF is that there is special deed arrangement that states what the funds must be used for. Yes all funds received are deemed "donations" but there's is nothing underhanded here; club is following their legal obligations. To suggest otherwise is well.... I'll leave it at that 

Anyways... Time to vote 
 

[WilliamPowell]

Suppose it depends on what he/she is saying. we don't need a president who says too much, I'd personally just like more information as to what the board's goals for the future are. and the token answers are not what we need.

Fair call.

That's why I go to the AGMs to get answers. And the best way to get answers is bail the directors up and ask them one on one and don't let them squirm out of giving answers

It works or it has least for me 

[RedanTiger]

As I wanted to finalise my vote this weekend I decided in fairness to venture over to Joe Russo's website and see if there was anything there that tells me more than what the media has reported.

Anyways... Time to vote 
 

WP I haven't got anything from the club regarding voting as yet.
What is the procedure?

I note another candidate.

Tiger candidate: there won't be bloodshed
Jake Niall
 Published: November 28, 2015 - 8:03PM

One of the candidates in the fiercely contested Richmond election says he is not "challenging" the club board and wants "evolution rather than revolution" at Tigerland.

But Jason Dowd, who owns and runs the Mitch Dowd underwear brand, said "there won't be blood in the corridors at Punt Road if one to two board members change".

Dowd said he would continue to support the current board and administration, which had done well to create a stable club and healthy finances. He and Joe Russo are running for the Richmond board independently, contesting positions held by Maurice O'Shannassy and Rex Chadwick, in what is the once-volatile club's first election in six years.

"I'm not challenging the board, I'm simply putting myself up for election," said Dowd. "In fact I think they have done a great job creating a stable environment and turning finances around and would continue to support the current board.

"These elections should be seen as evolution rather than revolution ... and all good organisations recognise the need to renew and inject fresh ideas and thinking. I also believe members should have a say in who runs their club. It's been six years since this has occurred.

"Stability is great, but needs to be balanced by the need for clubs to continue to evolve and improve. Without an  injection of new thinking, you risk complacency."

Richmond president Peggy O'Neal has called for stability  in what was both a clear reference to past volatility and an endorsement of the incumbent board members who are seeking re-election.

Dowd has met with the club's nominations committee and then decided to run for the board.

Dowd said if  elected he would bring "a sense of urgency and manic pursuit of excellence in every part of the organisation ... without that, in a highly competitive environment like the AFL, you will be left behind."

He said he would "encourage the club to be bold in decision making and hold everyone in club accountable for their performance".

The voting for the Richmond election closes on December 4.

Richmond has made 11 consecutive profits, and has risen under Damien Hardwick from near the bottom to make three finals series in a row, but has been unable to win a final. O'Neal, the AFL's first female president of a club, was elected president to replace Gary March late in 2013, in what was seen as a compromise candidate after a tussle between Malcolm Speed and March's vice-president, O'Shannassy. 

This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tiger-candidate-there-wont-be-bloodshed-20151128-glail1.html


Now that's a man I'd vote for if given a vote.