Kamdyn McIntosh - 2016 expectations?

[1980 I Was There]

He will improve on last year dramatically and over the next few years will become vital to Tigers Winning finals games. Bet ya life on it!

[WilliamPowell]

 

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[tdy]

If he improves it's a good sign our development program is working. Maybe he is the next Rance, he was ordinary when young.

[Stalin]

Rance was AA u18s

[the claw]

He has reached glass half full status why have any expectations. Clearly it is a more than adequate place to be for  the RFC its players and many of its supporters..
He is a tackling machine, a ball magnet, a contested possession beast A running bouncing rebounding machine, Expectations!!!! what is wrong with you lot, he is already a champ he is top notch in all these things,   well lets tone it down a bit about half way there which is clearly good enough..

Yes Claw, when we said that we were pleased with his '15 season, we actually meant that we don't expect or even want him to improve. 

Thanks for clearing that up! You are a sharp one!

Oh so you think he needs to improve, could have fooled me. What areas would you like to see improvement in.

[WilliamPowell]

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Think ive got it all this time

[the claw]

What are your expectations for Macca in 2016 and what would be a good year for him?


Career stats to date:
          Games  Kicks   Hballs  Disp.  Marks  Tackles  G.B    Clear.  In50   Re50   CP    UP   1%ers
2015      23     10.5     4.8    15.3    4.1      2.6      8.8     1.1     2.5     2.0     4.4  10.5    1.4


http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2508
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2013115

To become a good AFL MID/Wingman  he needs to consistently produce close to  the following. He is a  4TH year player, Basically 22 at the start of the season he simply needs to keep improving.Yes he has played only 23 games and that is where the scope for improvement lies.

          Games Kicks  Hballs    Disp   Marks  Tackles   Goals   Clr    I/50    C/P    UP     1%ers   
2016    ??      11.0     9.0      20.0    5.0       4.0       1.0     3.0    4.0      8.0   12.0   1.4     

To me 20 disposals with good game time for a mid is a minimum.

 He is a tall lad and good in the air he should be getting his share of marks both in space with the odd contested one.

Tackle count is down he needs to lay more especially if he is only going at 15 disposals a game.

For a running mid somewhere around 15 -  25 goals a season should be expected..

Clr's really needs to improve this area especially for the role he currently performs.

I/50s not good enough for a wingman needs to significantly improve.

C/P'S This is where he improves his disposal numbers he just needs to get more ball for himself.This will allow him to stay involved in games a bit more.

Will he achieve these numbers?  i hope so. If he plays every game these numbers at least need to track upwards.

The numbers suggest he needs  more consistency,he needs to stay involved in games for longer,  he needs to round his game out,

[Heart of Darkness]

I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.

Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?

There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.

[Chuck17]

I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.

Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?

There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.

Aha but have you weighted the numbers depending on what team the player is in?

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Snip again

Think ive got it all this time

You could get a job as a mohel the way you're going WP!

[Damo]

Expectations - not much

[the claw]

I'm confused as to what role you think wingers play? They're instructed not to get sucked in to stoppages so they can provide an outlet option. That's why there CP's, and particularly their clearance numbers, are so low.

Issac Smith who I'd describe as a typical wingman (and an above average one at that) averaged 1.6 clearances and 5.4 CP's last year and you expect Kamdyn to almost double those numbers?

There's no question Kamdyn can improve across the board but his numbers are indicative of the role he's being asked to play.

Yet a bloke like Grigg goes at those numbers AND HES ORDINARY and very outside. What do you want a well rounded player who can get a bit of ball for himself or a player who is almost totally reliant on others getting the ball to him.
A bloke like Stephen Hill goes at 8 c/ps a game AND YOU DONT GET MORE OUTSIDE THAN HIM. He also gets enough clearances a game at 3.2 to be bothersome.
FFS Branden Ellis went at nearly 7 c/p's a game and had more than double the clearances of McIntosh.

Winger outside player whatever are you really saying just 1 clearance a game is good enough or just 4 contested possesions is as well.. It isnt good enough and it needs to get better. If your only averaging 15 disposals a game the easiest way to improve that is by going and getting the ball for yourself and actually adding to your game making you a better footballer and a harder player to stop.

So he is touching the ball just 15 times a game, he kicks a goal once every three weeks, he kicks the ball inside 50 just 2.5 times a game he lays just 2.6 tackles a game he manages just 1 clearance a game and he gets the ball for himself just 4 times a game and your okay with all this because thats his role.  We really are accepting of mediocrity, clearly he needs to do that role much better.

[Penelope]

lol, no one has said anything contrary to that last statement

[Chuck17]

Look I am sick of this, just to add some credence to Claw's statements I am going on the record to say that I believe McIntosh is elite, does not have to get better, and in fact I expect him to go slightly backwards in performance but because he is so good will still be in the elite bracket and i am as happy as a pig in poo because of that.

[Diocletian]

Santa talked up McIntosh before his debut, when no-one rated him...now that most people seem to rate him, he talks him down....reminds me of those music snob/hipster types who love an obscure band and try to put everyone on to them but then disown them as soon as they become too well known & popular........in other words ...McIntosh like, totally sold out and is like, totally mainstream now, man....