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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2016, 01:50:05 PM »
All these personal reasons for disliking lloyd's opinion. Lol.
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2016, 01:55:09 PM »
Riewoldt kicked 78 goals back in 2010 in just his fourth season.

Yet we still give plonkers Griffiths and Vickery more and more time :banghead

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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2016, 02:00:34 PM »
Riewoldt kicked 78 goals back in 2010 in just his fourth season.

Yet we still give plonkers Griffiths and Vickery more and more time :banghead

haha yeah just give them a little more time, they'll come good

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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2016, 02:30:41 PM »
926 goals.

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In a heartbeat, if take Jack over the velvet sledgehammer. He's the Male Caro of football journalists

How many goals will Jack have kicked at career's end?
And a flag

No doubt jacks a better more rounded player

But was it best for Richmond to move away the best goal kicker in the game from te goals ?
depends if you rate a player by how many goals he kicks himself or how many he creates for the team.

Lloyd was one dimensional, but he was good at one dimension. It also helped that he played in a succesfull team and he had supply in quantity and quality, although some will still just look at the goal kicked column to judgements

Jack is such a creative and smart player he will be damaging anywhere.
it is also much harder to double team a player further up the ground
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2016, 02:52:53 PM »
That is one of the best football articles l have read this year & is spot on.
Riewoldt should be left at FF & Hardwick & his coaching staff should be creating another player to play the role on the wing. It makes all the sense in the world why we fail up forward. We have the best players in the league for height & we abuse it by the way the team is set out & coached. Never been a big fan of Lloyd but this time he has it spot on 100% right. He was a great forward & that is why he owns a premiership medal & won the Coleman medal.

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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2016, 02:59:03 PM »
I re jack can't handle the pressure, to be perfectly honest.

He's been tried there numerous times and ends up choking%50 of the time.

The truth is, he's mentally not strong enough to both perform and be accountable as the key forward.

That's why he shares his game around the ground...because he's a mental marshmellow who acts like he has leadership qualities
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2016, 03:34:51 PM »
I re jack can't handle the pressure, to be perfectly honest.

He's been tried there numerous times and ends up choking%50 of the time.

The truth is, he's mentally not strong enough to both perform and be accountable as the key forward.

That's why he shares his game around the ground...because he's a mental marshmellow who acts like he has leadership qualities

Yeah 2x Coleman medalist can't handle being the FF.  :clapping

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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2016, 04:35:19 PM »
lol Ox, Let me just get my stable shovel, seems to be a whole lot of organic matter on the floor here needs shoveling out.
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2016, 07:27:32 PM »
I think when you kick 5 goals for an entire game of footy, you may want to rethink your forward set up and your game plan.

Like Lloyd or hate him he is right in this article.

Jack is our best forward, play him forward. It doesn't come any more simple than that. Other than to try and isolate him and not to kick it to the pockets.


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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2016, 07:31:46 PM »
I think when you kick 5 goals for an entire game of footy, you may want to rethink your forward set up and your game plan.

Like Lloyd or hate him he is right in this article.

Jack is our best forward, play him forward. It doesn't come any more simple than that. Other than to try and isolate him and not to kick it to the pockets.
Pretty simple rule.
Our forward line has been dysfunctional for at least two years. Coaches all need to be shown the door.
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2016, 07:35:59 PM »
I'd hate to be a player in our forward line. You are always outnumbered as the ball takes an eternity to get there. :banghead
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2016, 07:39:18 PM »
What is the point of a forward line when the ball never goes there.  We were flooding like bunnies for most of the game and sidewinding for the rest of it, Jack would of been sitting up forward with his thumb up his arse.
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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2016, 07:52:36 PM »
Reckon there's barely one decent Richmond player who, if they went to another club, would play the same role that they do under Halfstep...




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Re: How the Tigers took Riewoldt from great to average ... (Age)
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2016, 12:30:34 PM »
Lloyd ignores some important facts, as do those rubbing his hairless nutsack.

In 2010 when Jack kicked 78 goals, he had 9 goal assists for the year and we kicked a total score of 1714 for the year, % of 73 winning 6 games.

2011 he kicked 62 goals had 21 goal assists and the team kicked 2069 86% 8 wins

2012 65 goals 20 assists 2169 111% 10 wins

2013 58 goals 26 assists 2154 122% 15 wins.

so after 2010, his direct involvement in goals remained constantly only slightly lower than 2010, while the team progressively won more games and kicked much higher scores than 2010.

after that the team stagnated/went backwards , while jacks direct scoring output remained the about same in 2014 and dropped off slightly in 2015.

It's a simplistic article written by a simpleton for simpletons.

but yeah, lets dream of the successful year of 2010 where we could hang our hat on an individual award
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