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Quote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 10:13:46 PMQuote from: big tone on April 21, 2016, 09:55:23 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 08:19:45 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:05:36 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.You raised the very point I was making!Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.Call it what you like but we need to replace guys that cannot take us any further than we have been. Grigg, Houli, Hunt and Hampson all will not take us any further. Play some more kids and find out whether they can. Castagna, McBean and Small have all earned that right IMO. And all 3 could play this round and be as good as or better than those 4 I named. A decent game plan would be the best "in" of the week though.
Quote from: big tone on April 21, 2016, 09:55:23 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 08:19:45 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:05:36 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.You raised the very point I was making!Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.So you think we should be in total rebuild mode like the Saints? Personally, I don't.
Quote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 08:19:45 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:05:36 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.You raised the very point I was making!Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.St.Kilda had about 8 or 9 players in their side around that 20 game mark last week that should have beaten Hawthorn. We could quite easily fit a couple more in our side to replace guys like Hunt. Realistically we only have one first year player in Rioli in our side and 2 second year kids (ND picks) playing on Sunday.
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 08:05:36 PMQuote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.You raised the very point I was making!Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.Who comes out for Short? Lloyd, Lambert or Rioli? What would be the point of that?Agreed Hunt isn't great, but nobody in the VFL is pushing him out, and as I said, you can't play 5 blokes under 20 games and expect to win. Maybe you can when the season is lost, but we're not at that stage yet.
Quote from: FooffooValve on April 21, 2016, 07:56:06 PMQuote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.You raised the very point I was making!Short kicked 3 goals on debut and despite an 11 disposal game against Adelaide is dropped. Why? Other senior guys continue to stink it up and keep on getting selected. Hunt? What has he done to justify selection? He played one of the worst games of football ever seen against Collingwood and yet is back one week later. Why? He is not the future. I want to put games into guys that may win us a flag. Not into guys that may get us into 8th position.
Quote from: YellowandBlackBlood on April 21, 2016, 06:58:11 PMObviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again..... Can't understand this type of comment. This is a side that has C Ellis, Menadue and Rioli in it. They have stuck pretty fat with these blokes. They are first and second year players. Add in Short for a bit of exposure, Macintosh, there's probably one or two others. You can't possibly hope to win with 4 or 5 of these types in the side.Some regeneration is happening right in front of your eyes, yet the club still gets criticised for electing "same olds". Batchelor is a surprise, but I'm taking from that that Astbury is doubtful, and they aren't confident that Chappy has a good match-up. Will be shocked if Morris plays. Hampson has actually been pretty good and i'm not convinced that big Ivan strengthens us much anymore. This will be his last year. Obviously we need another genuine ruckman on the list, but Hampson is our best option against the talls like Gawn, Sandi etc. It is Round 5. We still have a shot at resurrecting our season. When and if it becomes obvious that we aren't going to make finals, then we'll see McBean and others get a chance.
Obviously part of the rebuild philosophy is to play the same old guys time and time again.....
So now its obviously maric for Hampson. Who comes in forVlastuin and Moore ? My guess is miles and Batchelor.
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Hampson out with injury.Townsend added to 25 man squad.Source: Twitter.
He'll be our best pick up ever
FJ is the only one that makes sense.
Seriously Lennon was terrible last weekMorris back to do the job on GarlettEnd of storyDon't like it , go and barrack for another club
