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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2016, 12:00:25 PM »
Good review Heart of Darkness.

Nothing in the reserves to get excited about.  Play the same bad game plan as seniors.

Rumour on Lennon is that he has had a couple of concussions.  Hard to fathom why they would risk such a valuable asset at that level but its the RFC.

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2016, 12:06:47 PM »
Thanks for the report Heart of darkness......now to find the closest bridge to jump off.

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it was like reading an obituary

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2016, 02:04:06 PM »
I suspect most of our kids would start showing more & developing a lot quicker playing alongside Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt , Rance, Deledio, Vlastuin & Miles rather than the likes of Luke Conca, Bathie, Hunt & A. Moore.....
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2016, 02:05:00 PM »
what a crazy theory
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2016, 02:09:38 PM »
McBean - I've been a huge proponent of getting mcBean in the 1's (admittedly having not watched him play live). Unfortunately, I lost hope on Sat that he would ever make it in the AFL. He was lazy and repeatedly got caught behind giving up easy marks. Chocco was blowing up. Lacks any kind of a physical presence. Seems rather one dimensional as a lead mark type guy with good skills. Probably doesn't help that the ball is put on his head a bit but he's essentially Ty Vickery but in the VFL. Extremely frustrating.


Probably seeming like a jilted ex lover but it's funny how anyone who goes to the games and watches him play can see why he's not getting a game and aren't holding out hope for him to be our savior and the ones who only look at the stats thinks he's the next Carey (in terms of overall impact not style).
Still should plonk him in the AFL though and see how he goes

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2016, 02:16:02 PM »
McBean - I've been a huge proponent of getting mcBean in the 1's (admittedly having not watched him play live). Unfortunately, I lost hope on Sat that he would ever make it in the AFL. He was lazy and repeatedly got caught behind giving up easy marks. Chocco was blowing up. Lacks any kind of a physical presence. Seems rather one dimensional as a lead mark type guy with good skills. Probably doesn't help that the ball is put on his head a bit but he's essentially Ty Vickery but in the VFL. Extremely frustrating.


Probably seeming like a jilted ex lover but it's funny how anyone who goes to the games and watches him play can see why he's not getting a game and aren't holding out hope for him to be our savior and the ones who only look at the stats thinks he's the next Carey (in terms of overall impact not style).
Still should plonk him in the AFL though and see how he goes

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2016, 02:19:14 PM »
Well I haven't been to the VFL yet this year but having seen most of his matches live during the first three years of his career, his high level of abilty & natural talent seemed fairly obvious to me, even though his work rate sometimes leaves a lot to be desired....but so does the team he plays in and the midfield he relies on....I'd also suggest the fact the he still manages to overcome all that and kick more goals than nearly every other forward in the competition, most playing in far better sides, is testament to his ability....and realy his flaws at 21 are the same that Vickery & Griffiths still have at 25 & 26....and he has better potential as a ruckman than both as well....though admittedly that's not saying much....

Would also argue he did quite well in his two AFL appearances, particularly the Collingwood match....and against Essendon did ok against an opponent he was giving away several kilos plus two decades & 398 matches of experience to...
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2016, 02:40:30 PM »
McBean - I've been a huge proponent of getting mcBean in the 1's (admittedly having not watched him play live). Unfortunately, I lost hope on Sat that he would ever make it in the AFL. He was lazy and repeatedly got caught behind giving up easy marks. Chocco was blowing up. Lacks any kind of a physical presence. Seems rather one dimensional as a lead mark type guy with good skills. Probably doesn't help that the ball is put on his head a bit but he's essentially Ty Vickery but in the VFL. Extremely frustrating.


Probably seeming like a jilted ex lover but it's funny how anyone who goes to the games and watches him play can see why he's not getting a game and aren't holding out hope for him to be our savior and the ones who only look at the stats thinks he's the next Carey (in terms of overall impact not style).
Still should plonk him in the AFL though and see how he goes

Yes all the hardcore fans are loving Chaplin up forward

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You gotta watch him train to fully appreciate

This has nothing to do with Chaplin, Vickery, Griff or any other spud. We it's like saying we should have Hunt in the team because he's an upgrade on Morris. Why replace duds with duds. Give us a hard working forward with some god damn skills

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2016, 02:50:13 PM »
McBean - I've been a huge proponent of getting mcBean in the 1's (admittedly having not watched him play live). Unfortunately, I lost hope on Sat that he would ever make it in the AFL. He was lazy and repeatedly got caught behind giving up easy marks. Chocco was blowing up. Lacks any kind of a physical presence. Seems rather one dimensional as a lead mark type guy with good skills. Probably doesn't help that the ball is put on his head a bit but he's essentially Ty Vickery but in the VFL. Extremely frustrating.


Probably seeming like a jilted ex lover but it's funny how anyone who goes to the games and watches him play can see why he's not getting a game and aren't holding out hope for him to be our savior and the ones who only look at the stats thinks he's the next Carey (in terms of overall impact not style).
Still should plonk him in the AFL though and see how he goes

Yes all the hardcore fans are loving Chaplin up forward

 :clapping

You gotta watch him train to fully appreciate

This has nothing to do with Chaplin, Vickery, Griff or any other spud. We it's like saying we should have Hunt in the team because he's an upgrade on Morris. Why replace duds with duds. Give us a hard working forward with some god damn skills

Ummm ...

It's directly related as Chaplin is playing key forward and McBean is playing Vfl

You can compare duds with duds as there only so many players on the list

Chaplin is a 30 year old hack. McBean is a kid with medal for goal kicking awards
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2016, 02:50:56 PM »
I think players such as McBean and Lennon should be given a proper chance in the seniors. If they fail so be it but at least give them a chance. The game plan of Hardwick is stifling growth in players. If the game plan was changed I believe that players such as Lennon would shine. A change in coach could bring about positive development in the players.

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2016, 02:52:12 PM »
I think players such as McBean and Lennon should be given a proper chance in the seniors. If they fail so be it but at least give them a chance. The game plan of Hardwick is stifling growth in players. If the game plan was changed I believe that players such as Lennon would shine. A change in coach could bring about positive development in the players.

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2016, 03:28:13 PM »
Must say, also surprised by HOD's assessment of Butler....from what I've seen, "lacking in footy smarts" is the last thing I'd say about him....
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2016, 04:55:29 PM »
Richmond’s VFL coach Craig McRae's summary:

AFL-listed

Adam Marcon

27 disposals, 17 uncontested possessions, six tackles, one goal

Continued his really good form at VFL level. He played a little on the wing this week, we’re looking to add another string to his bow and he was clearly one of our best players.

Taylor Hunt

25 disposals, 18 uncontested possessions, six marks, 11 handball receives

Continues to work hard. His workrate off the ball and ability to turn the footy over in defence is a real standout. We just need him to have better ball use with ball in hand to capitalise on the opportunities he has.

Andrew Moore


21 disposals, six clearances, three tackles, ten contested possessions

Played as an inside-mid and had six clearances but we just need him to play like a big-strong on-baller we know he’s capable of. He’s not far away from really tearing a game apart at this level.

Nathan Broad


18 disposals, six marks, five contested marks, 10 uncontested possessions

Played his best game as a defender for us, started on the wing, but went back and had significant impact for us. His six marks was a team-high for us on the day with his contested marking and rebounding a stand-out and was a really good contributor.

Dave Astbury

15 disposals, seven contested possessions, four marks

Came back to the VFL and played as a key-back. He was a strong competitor in the air, but choosing between marking and spoiling and killing contests are decisions he needs to get right. He was a solid contributor.

Dan Butler

15 disposals, 11 tackles, nine handball receives, one goal

He bounced back to some good form, 15 disposals and 11 tackles as a small-forward are good numbers and kicked a goal. Just getting a balance between his work inside-50 and outside-50 is something he's working on.

Jacob Townsend

13 disposals, six tackles, 11 uncontested possessions

An inside-mid and strong at the contest but we need to see more of the strengths he has. His seven free-kicks against is a balance he needs to find between hardness at the ball and the man and something he needs to really work on.

Oleg Markov


11 disposals, four tackles, three inside-50s

Played as a forward to start with, we wanted to see him play in a different role. He had minimal impact so we moved him to a wing and half-back. His contest stuff was good and he’s got some real upside for us.

Callum Moore

11 disposals, six marks, four hardball gets

Started as a back and after half-time we moved him forward to provide a bit of spark in the forward-line. He continues to jump at the ball and show some real athletic qualities. We’ll continue down that path with him.

Ivan Maric

36 hit-outs, four clearances, four tackles, nine disposals

Returned from AFL opportunity, came back and dominated hit-outs, had four clearances himself, but only the nine disposals. We need his big-strong leadership to make other players stand taller.

Liam McBean


One goal, nine disposals, three marks

Struggled on the day. He had limited opportunity early, but his connection with the other forwards was poor. We need a stronger four-quarter contribution from him.

Ben Lennon

Six disposals, one goal

Unfortunately had another head-clash in the second quarter and failed to return in the second half. That’s two (head-clashes) in his last two games which is concerning.

Mabior Chol

Five disposals, three tackles

He was inconsistent in his effort and intensity and we need more four-quarter consistency in that area from him, he had minimal impact.

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Tom Couch

24 disposals, nine clearances, 15 contested possessions, four tackles

Continues his really good form. He’s so strong at the contest, his nine clearances and 24 disposals, he looks like one of the few guys that can break-out of stoppages and impact the game for us.

Sam Darley


22 disposals, 17 uncontested possessions, 12 handball receives

Showed great leadership again. There were a couple of occasions where he was sagging back in play when we want him to squeeze up the ground and be part of our team defence, but other than that he’s going really strongly.

Tom Langford


19 disposals, ten handball receives, three tackles

Returned from a hamstring injury in round 1. He started a bit slowly against his old team, but as the game wore on he really looked like he was important for us with his ball-use off half-back.

Nick Mellington

17 disposals, 13 contested possessions, four clearances, five tackles

Played as an inside-mid and came in and out of the game. His contested work is as good as we have, he had 13 of those (contested possessions), but we just need some more spread around the ground for four quarters.

Jacob Ballard

13 disposals, nine tackles, three clearances

Played his first game for the year with limited game time. His enormous work-rate and GPS really stands-out and we we’re looking forward to him playing four quarters. It was a good start to his Richmond VFL career.

Tom Silvestro

Ten disposals, four tackles, three inside-50s, one goal

The hardest worker we have on the ground, was our 23rd player and now playing in the team on his own right. The balance between how much work he does defensively and offensively is what he’s trying to work on.

Anthony Forato


17 hit-outs, one goal, eight disposals

Playing as a second ruck at the moment, and we really like his contest. He was a good back-up for Ivan and had 17 hit-outs.

Ryan Gale

Eight disposals, two marks

A key-defender, he started well with two intercept marks and just playing his role. A solid game from him.

Anthony Scott

One goal, seven disposals, three marks, three tackles

A small-forward, he had minimal impact on the day. He managed to kick a goal from a crumbing opportunity, but lacked real urgency and intensity to get back inside-50 and lock it in that area for us.

Daniel Coffield


Five disposals, three marks, one contested mark

Our 23rd player started really well with his intercept marking and is playing his role. He just trying to get that balance when he has the footy in capitalising on the touches he does have.

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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2016, 05:13:56 PM »
Can we swap Hunt, A.Moore, Townsend & Hamspud for Darley, Couch, Ballard & Forato?
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Re: VFL R5: Richmond vs Port Melbourne --- Sat. May 7 @ North Port Oval
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2016, 06:32:40 PM »
Can we swap Hunt, A.Moore, Townsend & Hamspud for Darley, Couch, Ballard & Forato?

Seriously the pick of them is Antony Forato , has played last 2 games as ruck & is very impressive