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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2016, 07:04:12 AM »
So Peggy was brought in as a peace keeper rather than someone who has the tools to do the job? Yet some voted for her on this basis.

Newsflash for you Angus the members DONT elect the president.

We elect people to the board; when there is an election.

The board elect the president/chairman, not the members

She hasn't faced an election recently because when her term has been up, she has been re-elected unopposed

And to answer your question
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Tell me who exactly decided she was the Neutral choice out of Maurice and Speed?


It was Gary March's recommendation. She was not aligned to any "side" and the other 2 who wanted the top job agreed with her taking the gig...everyone saw it as the right compromise...so why dont' you hand out some whacks to them
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2016, 08:23:48 AM »
Not sure what post your reading but it's not mine

Who said members elected her back then?? I said some voted for her eg the board back then on the basis of being a peace keeper between Speed and Maurice.

I also whacked all of them when I said they must all go, except speed. Tell me how long had speed been on the board when this vote occurred?? Give him the top job like he should have got it back then.

One thing members voted was not to have Russo join the the old and stale board that mostly had been around since Wallace. Some handpicked by Gregory Miller.
How has that working for you now.  :lol :lol :lol

before you spit out the usual he supported dimwit party line, well guess what Einstein  they all plead support  before they are removed. The only time I've ever believed a coach is safe as my time following the AFL, is now under Gale and his side kick Peggy.



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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2016, 08:56:19 AM »
Back on topic.

The whole club is dishonest with itself. Hardwick accepts mediocrity. The board and key position in the footy department reeks of keeping positions for mates. The so called external club review is a PR exercise in scapgoating anyone except hardwick, gale, francis jackson, blair hartley and Dan Richardson, the very people who have made or are responsible for the terrible decisions.
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2016, 09:06:10 AM »
Back on topic.

The whole club is dishonest with itself. Hardwick accepts mediocrity. The board and key position in the footy department reeks of keeping positions for mates. The so called external club review is a PR exercise in scapgoating anyone except hardwick, gale, francis jackson, blair hartley and Dan Richardson, the very people who have made or are responsible for the terrible decisions.

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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2016, 10:18:52 AM »
WP you may have overlooked my post on the last page.

Could you please inform us as to who proposed and seconded the motion that you voted against.

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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2016, 11:05:59 AM »
I work at EY.  I can tell you we (the firm, not me) are currently doing work for RFC but I don't think it is football related.

Not surprising though that we do work for RFC given Rob Dalton, an RFC board member, is an EY partner.

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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2016, 11:08:37 AM »
who or wtf is EY ? serious question
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2016, 11:08:59 AM »
I work at EY.  I can tell you we (the firm, not me) are currently doing work for RFC but I don't think it is football related.

Not surprising though that we do work for RFC given Rob Dalton, an RFC board member, is an EY partner.

Well there you go (if the above is true).   More jobs for the boys.
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #68 on: August 01, 2016, 11:09:38 AM »
who or wtf is EY ? serious question

Accounting firm
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #69 on: August 01, 2016, 11:10:04 AM »
ahh Earnest Young gotcha
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2016, 11:15:04 AM »
I work at EY.  I can tell you we (the firm, not me) are currently doing work for RFC but I don't think it is football related.

Not surprising though that we do work for RFC given Rob Dalton, an RFC board member, is an EY partner.

Well there you go (if the above is true).   More jobs for the boys.

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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2016, 12:55:24 PM »
Makes Rio look respectable.
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2016, 01:27:20 PM »
WP you may have overlooked my post on the last page.

Could you please inform us as to who proposed and seconded the motion that you voted against.

The motion was out forward by the board and communicated to the members prior to the AGM. IIRC the motion on the night was raised by March. Not sure who seconded it.

End of the day the board makes up 9.

That's 9 yes votes.

They had no control over the other 45k odd votes.  The motion could have easily been defeated if people had taken the time to vote or more to the point shown some interestinwhat was going on

Not sure what post your reading but it's not mine

Who said members elected her back then?? I said some voted for her eg the board back then on the basis of being a peace keeper between Speed and Maurice.

I also whacked all of them when I said they must all go, except speed. Tell me how long had speed been on the board when this vote occurred?? Give him the top job like he should have got it back then.

One thing members voted was not to have Russo join the the old and stale board that mostly had been around since Wallace. Some handpicked by Gregory Miller.
How has that working for you now.  :lol :lol :lol

before you spit out the usual he supported dimwit party line, well guess what Einstein  they all plead support  before they are removed. The only time I've ever believed a coach is safe as my time following the AFL, is now under Gale and his side kick Peggy.

As always you cannot discuss anything without throwing in some insults for good measure when people disagree or challenge you.

But seriously what relevance does Speeds tenure on the board have to do with anything? If He honestly believed he was the best person for the role why didnt he challenge? What stopped him?

And why should he be excused from your wanting them all gone? Why does he stay and not the others?

He is part of the board who agreed to the extension.so he is much to blame as any other board member.
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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2016, 03:27:58 PM »
Wasting valuable money that could be used to pay the dud out.  :banghead :banghead

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Re: External consultants involved in Richmond's footy dept. review: Ch 7
« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2016, 04:57:56 PM »
I also whacked all of them when I said they must all go, except speed. Tell me how long had speed been on the board when this vote occurred?? Give him the top job like he should have got it back then.


I really don't understand where you get this idea that Speed is a good choice as president.
If you bothered to do a search on his history you will find he has been a poor and divisive leader wherever he has gone, especially at the ICC.
Within his first term at Richmond he has been such a divisive force that the board has had to make a "neutral" the president. Speaks volumes.

Speed was appointed with Carl Walsh to fill two board vacancies in October 2011. Yes APPOINTED.
Garry Cameron and Don Lord resigned in October, two months before the AGM after serving for ten years on the board and were replaced by Speed and Walsh.
As there was such little time before the AGM there were no other candidates and they (Speed and Walsh) were deemed to have been ELECTED unopposed.
I think Walsh resigned in 2015 and John O'Rourke was Appointed to replace him.

In 2011 I was opposed to the changes and gave a proxy to WP to vote against (since I did not trust the chair or Stahl to lodge my vote correctly).
I also received a message from another OER poster that they had done the same.
In emails to the administrator of another site, she told me she and her husband had both voted against by proxy.
 
On reading on here that there were only a very few proxies cast against the motion I contacted the admin and suggested that the counting was dodgy.
She contacted Michael Stahl (COO and returning officer) and he replied to her as follows:

There were 73 proxies received, 69 in favour and 4 against the proposed changes.
At the AGM, the motion to change the Constitution was proposed by Charles Macek and seconded by Garry Cameron.
At the AGM there were 117 members present and 3 of those voted against the proposed changes.
Accordingly the proposed changes to the Constitution were passed.


Now according to that I personally know all 4 who voted against. Small, small, small world.
There were 117 members present. WP, Mightytoges and Jackstar have said they were the 3 votes against. Even smaller world.
The motion was moved by Macek and Cameron.

To go back to another thread
Just read the replies to my post.
Funny if not ironic.

A thread about changes to the Board.
I was one of the few who voted against the changes to the constitution that allows the board to appoint a third of directors.
The vote against the changes was SEVEN against of whom I personally know of four, WP and myself included.

So my question to Harry, yandb, Diocletian and Dooks - which way did you vote on the constitutional changes?

If you did not vote against them then you have at the least agreed with and condoned the changes the board made to limit the power of members to select the board.


So again to all those who now include the posters on this thread critical of WP. Which way did you vote?