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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #225 on: September 08, 2016, 09:19:45 PM »
Interesting times at Tigerland.

Monteath is the bloke running this in the background.

Bryan please just move along, you walked out on the RFC all those years ago for $$$$$

Phil Allison aghh please insert one Donald Trump.

Dr David Marsh is my personal GP, whom I have the utmost respect for.

But this whole overthrow the board business is just amateurish and boorish.

It's 2016 not 1976.

We the members will decide who screws our club over.

Change is overdue on the board and in the coaching, playing and development ranks.

Can't believe I haven't been here for a whole season of football, then again it was a fruitless exercise as we were abhorrent in style of play ( see coach and coaches).
The players stunk it up and should be footed up the backside for their pee weak actions.

I'm off O/S on Sunday let's hope something gets sorted, quick smart.

Oh and Neil Balme won't be at Tigerland from what I was told, never ever!!!

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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #226 on: September 08, 2016, 09:59:01 PM »
does the roller coaster goup even have a hand to show, or are they just feet painters?
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #227 on: September 08, 2016, 10:01:57 PM »
Phil Allison is apparently the only one from the rebel group at the B&F tonight.

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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #228 on: September 08, 2016, 10:18:34 PM »
Phil Allison is apparently the only one from the rebel group at the B&F tonight.

Phil gets a free ticket as part of his coterie membership, never misses
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #229 on: September 08, 2016, 10:51:14 PM »
Foot clubs. Lol

What a pack of wankers.
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« Reply #230 on: September 08, 2016, 10:53:54 PM »
K Sheedy here as well as an invited guest

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O’Neal, Gale yet to speak with spill leader Martin Hiscock (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #231 on: September 09, 2016, 11:07:29 PM »
O’Neal, Gale yet to speak with spill leader

MICHAEL WARNER
Herald Sun
10 September 2016


RICHMOND president Peggy O’Neal has shouldered arms to two text messages and a phone call from spill leader Martin Hiscock.

The Melbourne cardiologist has also left a voice message with Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale, but is yet to receive a response as the club considers its options ahead of a likely October board election.

It also emerged on Friday that two members of the “Focus on Football” group, which launched its campaign to overthrow the Richmond board on Monday, only joined as Tigers members in recent weeks.

Former Tiger Rex Hunt was forced to abandon a run for the board in 2004 after it emerged he was not a paid-up member.

The group of seven challengers are seeking an urgent meeting with O’Neal in a bid to convince the majority of the current board to step aside.
Peggy O'Neal has not made contact with Martin Hiscock. Picture: AAP Images.

“Through Martin Hiscock, the Focus on Footy ticket has left messages for the Richmond Football Club president on three occasions this week seeking a meeting,” would-be Tigers board member Mag Kearney said.

“To date, all messages have gone unreturned. Martin also called and left a message for the Richmond CEO which has received the same treatment.

“For now, the group will persist with channelling its efforts through these formal channels seeking an audience with the president or the board, but obviously a time will come when we will need to consider an alternative approach.”

The alternative approach will involve the gathering of 100 member signatures (as required under the club constitution) and the forcing of an extraordinary general meeting.

The coup members have received independent legal advice and do not believe they will have to gather in the vicinity of 2000 signatures from an estimated 45,000 eligible club members as required under the Corporations Act.

An EGM would cost the Tigers about $100,000.

The Focus on Football plotters also want access to a report into Richmond’s internal operations compiled by accounting firm Ernst & Young.

Kearney, a former CEO of Clubs Victoria, signed up as a Richmond member last month but said she was a lifelong fan and MCC member. Fellow board challenger Ingrid Williams also became a member last month.

The rival ticket includes Richmond premiership players Bryan Wood and Bruce Monteath, former club doctor David Marsh and Philip Allison.

At least two of the seven plotters attended the club’s best and fairest count at Crown ca-sino on Thursday night.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/peggy-oneal-has-not-returned-messages-from-focus-on-football-leader-martin-hiscock/news-story/4b655a40716d8c0d3ae2374e4c8ce1e8

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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #232 on: September 10, 2016, 09:09:24 AM »
Phil Allison is apparently the only one from the rebel group at the B&F tonight.
Or Mr Bubbles as I like to call him
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #233 on: September 10, 2016, 09:40:14 AM »
Just so I am clear the above article is stating as fact that:

That on this ticket of "influential, passionate, angry Richmond supporters" 2 of them have only become members in the last month.

With one of those 2 not even showing up at their launch last Monday.

But both of them club members for all of 1 month and as members of this ticket they are demanding to be gifted a seat on the Board of the RFC because their group is demanding the current board resign so they can take over?

Righteo then ::)
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #234 on: September 10, 2016, 11:04:20 AM »
How embarrassment!

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Infighting fury at Tigerland (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #235 on: September 11, 2016, 01:40:15 AM »
Infighting fury at Tigerland

Patrick Carlyon
Sunday Herald Sun
11th September 2016


BARRACKING for Richmond is the emotional equivalent of being waterboarded. One day, when the United Nations stumbles across the practice and tries to ban it on human rights grounds, some official report will cite the annual mewling ritual. Sometimes it begins in April, sometimes as late as September. It marks not only the surrender of hope, but the unbearable knowledge that the torture will go on.

The rise of Focus On Footy, a rival board ticket at Richmond, is no surprise. The optimism quotient for 2016 was higher at Punt Rd than any other time since Malcolm Fraser was prime minister. FOF’s choice of a boxing gym for its announcement seemed shrewd, an injection of doggedness for a club that last threw a punch in the era of Muhammad Ali. By every other measure, however, FOF took its cues from an African military coup.

The new ticket included two doctors — Dr Martin Hiscock, a cardiologist, and Dr David Marsh, who has letters after as well as before his name. FOF had a long list of complaints and a long list of targets. How the two would be bridged could not be explained. FOF had a new approach, apparently, to address Richmond’s rope-a-dope default.

But an endless stream of media interviews did not tease out FOF’s details.

Applied to a medical patient, the FOF pitch went something like this. Let us operate on the club. It’s not dying, and almost all the critical systems are best left alone. But we demand to cut it open and poke around. We will flush away the toxins introduced through the years, the poor recruiting choices (Richard Tambling instead of Lance Franklin, Aaron Fiora instead of Matthew Pavlich) that stymied the fullest use of your body. (Think of this the next time the doctor links any present-day ill to an old smoking or sugar habit.)

We might introduce this drug (Neil Balme) or that stent (Mick Malthouse). We won’t replace this organ (coach Damien Hardwick) or that system (chief executive Brendon Gale). But if we don’t like how something’s going, we may tinker. Then again, we may not.

Oh, by the way, we trust that your body will not violently reject the procedure. Resistance is no good for you and it’s an unnecessary bother for us. If our fiddling doesn’t work, don’t worry. After our marathon spell of surgery (nine years), we’ll hand over to another set of specialists.

Please sign here, here and here.

If the opening statements left plenty of unanswered questions, the follow-up media interviews invited more. On radio last week, Hiscock explained that he had not spoken to Balme, Malthouse or current president Peggy O’Neal. It seems FOF had done less homework than a Kevin Rudd election promise. Yet, like Rudd, Hiscock blazed with Napoleonic vision.
Tigers fullback Alex Rance ends a game flat on his back, exhausted and frustrated.

The course was clear (except for the details). The new board would oversee gameplan strategies, which sounds a bit like hospital executives telling surgeons to stick scalpels in left legs instead of right.

Under his plan, Hiscock’s seven members would be in and the existing board out. It wasn’t all bad news for them — they could reapply for the two remaining board spots. He hoped for no blood, he said without irony, and a “smooth transition”.

Hiscock was delightfully pompous. This Richmond fan has never met him. But has a specialist ever kept you waiting forever, then never threatened to call you by your name? Have his eyes glazed over at the first sign that you have questions in response to the spiel that just reduced your being to an incomprehensible horror show?

Hiscock is your man for the poorly understood links between transient ischaemic attack and patent foramen ovale. Cardiologists hold people’s futures in their grasp; patients understandably bathe them in gratitude. Both Hiscock and Marsh are doctors of the highest reputation. But they weren’t at their strongest in explaining why their footy club would be better than O’Neal’s.

“Of course we would consider some of the recent appointees …” Hiscock said, sounding like a doctor advising against drinking, pizza, or any other vice that brightens life.

Or an assortment of football club board folks over the decades, long used to the sound of their own voice but untrained in the power of persuasion outside their own domain.

A media commentator summed up FOF as “amateur hour”. Someone likened it to pub talk. Its outraged tone was warming to generations of Richmond fans, but it lacked the usual handbrakes of logic and reason — and the sort of fellow drinkers who compare half-baked ideas with Angry Anderson’s 1991 Grand Final effort.

Here was just another power play. Like the storming of the Bastille in 1789 and the Night of Long Knives in Canberra in 2010. If it was Fidel Castro, it was also Richmond: in 1986, when (fleeting) club president Alan Bond wanted to relocate his pet team to Brisbane; or the following year, when the club could afford to pay only two-thirds of the salary cap: or a few weeks ago, when Richmond surrendered a massive three-quarter time lead to Geelong.

For Tiger fans, it’s just another flicker of chaos. Theirs is a permanent crouch, in part to pre-empt the sniggers of other fans. They are “others”, to be treated with sympathy and disdain, as if they suffer chronic disease and vote One Nation. They know the club’s cultural failings, and its flair for defeat, are self-fulfilling loops.

Even if they scoff at Hardwick’s “we won’t be rushed” statement on Thursday, they also recognise the same-old masquerading as new-and-improved.

The Richmond glitch no longer resides just in poor performances but in the club’s response to them. A call to panic is common after a Richmond season: it’s happened more years than not in the past 35.

Criticisms of past judgments are justified and easy. But change for change’s sake doesn’t work.

FOF represents just another anthem without a beat, another triumph of frustration that arises when logic — burdened with the twin handicaps of humility and patience — seems too hard.

Boardroom brawls won’t win games and they don’t build clubs.

Imagine if a doctor treated a patient the same way.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/patrick-carlyon/boardroom-brawls-will-not-solve-problems-at-richmond-football-club/news-story/665274af14a5c97dea115dec8eaae653

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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #236 on: September 11, 2016, 12:07:15 PM »
Also from Today's HUN (11 sept 2016)

Confirmation that Balme has been spoken to by the current board not the challengers....geez you hope Monday's cirucs hasn't stuffed things for the RFC  >:(

Any way from page 80 Ando's Shout column

"Word reached this desk that NEIL BALME, that man everbody wanted bar the police earlier in the week, did soeak with  a Richmond group regarding the possibility of him working with Dan Richardson, who is currently rhw General Manager of Football.

The problem for the rebel naord ticket is Balme spoke with the incumbents, who remain hopeful of lurong him from Collingwood"

Further to this Jake Niall reported something similar on Fox Sports last Monday

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-plans-to-revamp-its-football-department-countering-focus-on-footy-board-spill-group/news-story/6a537e1295035c317076147b256634cf



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Re: Infighting fury at Tigerland (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #237 on: September 11, 2016, 06:35:01 PM »
Infighting fury at Tigerland

Patrick Carlyon
Sunday Herald Sun
11th September 2016


BARRACKING for Richmond is the emotional equivalent of being waterboarded. One day, when the United Nations stumbles across the practice and tries to ban it on human rights grounds, some official report will cite the annual mewling ritual. Sometimes it begins in April, sometimes as late as September. It marks not only the surrender of hope, but the unbearable knowledge that the torture will go on.

The rise of Focus On Footy, a rival board ticket at Richmond, is no surprise. The optimism quotient for 2016 was higher at Punt Rd than any other time since Malcolm Fraser was prime minister. FOF’s choice of a boxing gym for its announcement seemed shrewd, an injection of doggedness for a club that last threw a punch in the era of Muhammad Ali. By every other measure, however, FOF took its cues from an African military coup.

The new ticket included two doctors — Dr Martin Hiscock, a cardiologist, and Dr David Marsh, who has letters after as well as before his name. FOF had a long list of complaints and a long list of targets. How the two would be bridged could not be explained. FOF had a new approach, apparently, to address Richmond’s rope-a-dope default.

But an endless stream of media interviews did not tease out FOF’s details.

Applied to a medical patient, the FOF pitch went something like this. Let us operate on the club. It’s not dying, and almost all the critical systems are best left alone. But we demand to cut it open and poke around. We will flush away the toxins introduced through the years, the poor recruiting choices (Richard Tambling instead of Lance Franklin, Aaron Fiora instead of Matthew Pavlich) that stymied the fullest use of your body. (Think of this the next time the doctor links any present-day ill to an old smoking or sugar habit.)

We might introduce this drug (Neil Balme) or that stent (Mick Malthouse). We won’t replace this organ (coach Damien Hardwick) or that system (chief executive Brendon Gale). But if we don’t like how something’s going, we may tinker. Then again, we may not.

Oh, by the way, we trust that your body will not violently reject the procedure. Resistance is no good for you and it’s an unnecessary bother for us. If our fiddling doesn’t work, don’t worry. After our marathon spell of surgery (nine years), we’ll hand over to another set of specialists.

Please sign here, here and here.

If the opening statements left plenty of unanswered questions, the follow-up media interviews invited more. On radio last week, Hiscock explained that he had not spoken to Balme, Malthouse or current president Peggy O’Neal. It seems FOF had done less homework than a Kevin Rudd election promise. Yet, like Rudd, Hiscock blazed with Napoleonic vision.
Tigers fullback Alex Rance ends a game flat on his back, exhausted and frustrated.

The course was clear (except for the details). The new board would oversee gameplan strategies, which sounds a bit like hospital executives telling surgeons to stick scalpels in left legs instead of right.

Under his plan, Hiscock’s seven members would be in and the existing board out. It wasn’t all bad news for them — they could reapply for the two remaining board spots. He hoped for no blood, he said without irony, and a “smooth transition”.

Hiscock was delightfully pompous. This Richmond fan has never met him. But has a specialist ever kept you waiting forever, then never threatened to call you by your name? Have his eyes glazed over at the first sign that you have questions in response to the spiel that just reduced your being to an incomprehensible horror show?

Hiscock is your man for the poorly understood links between transient ischaemic attack and patent foramen ovale. Cardiologists hold people’s futures in their grasp; patients understandably bathe them in gratitude. Both Hiscock and Marsh are doctors of the highest reputation. But they weren’t at their strongest in explaining why their footy club would be better than O’Neal’s.

“Of course we would consider some of the recent appointees …” Hiscock said, sounding like a doctor advising against drinking, pizza, or any other vice that brightens life.

Or an assortment of football club board folks over the decades, long used to the sound of their own voice but untrained in the power of persuasion outside their own domain.

A media commentator summed up FOF as “amateur hour”. Someone likened it to pub talk. Its outraged tone was warming to generations of Richmond fans, but it lacked the usual handbrakes of logic and reason — and the sort of fellow drinkers who compare half-baked ideas with Angry Anderson’s 1991 Grand Final effort.

Here was just another power play. Like the storming of the Bastille in 1789 and the Night of Long Knives in Canberra in 2010. If it was Fidel Castro, it was also Richmond: in 1986, when (fleeting) club president Alan Bond wanted to relocate his pet team to Brisbane; or the following year, when the club could afford to pay only two-thirds of the salary cap: or a few weeks ago, when Richmond surrendered a massive three-quarter time lead to Geelong.

For Tiger fans, it’s just another flicker of chaos. Theirs is a permanent crouch, in part to pre-empt the smans of other fans. They are “others”, to be treated with sympathy and disdain, as if they suffer chronic disease and vote One Nation. They know the club’s cultural failings, and its flair for defeat, are self-fulfilling loops.

Even if they scoff at Hardwick’s “we won’t be rushed” statement on Thursday, they also recognise the same-old masquerading as new-and-improved.

The Richmond glitch no longer resides just in poor performances but in the club’s response to them. A call to panic is common after a Richmond season: it’s happened more years than not in the past 35.

Criticisms of past judgments are justified and easy. But change for change’s sake doesn’t work.

FOF represents just another anthem without a beat, another triumph of frustration that arises when logic — burdened with the twin handicaps of humility and patience — seems too hard.

Boardroom brawls won’t win games and they don’t build clubs.

Imagine if a doctor treated a patient the same way.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/patrick-carlyon/boardroom-brawls-will-not-solve-problems-at-richmond-football-club/news-story/665274af14a5c97dea115dec8eaae653

One of the best opinion pieces on this whole saga. Hard to argue with most of it

Blinkers off it hits the mark
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #238 on: September 11, 2016, 06:49:43 PM »
Must admit that I'm embarrassed with Marty Hiscock (and to a lesser extent Morris).

Highly educated and intelligent, they've come across as being way out of their depth when it comes to strategic manoeuvring in the football world.

What were they thinking?
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Re: Board Spill?
« Reply #239 on: September 11, 2016, 08:35:27 PM »
Must admit that I'm embarrassed with Marty Hiscock (and to a lesser extent Morris).

Highly educated and intelligent, they've come across as being way out of their depth when it comes to strategic manoeuvring in the football world.

What were they thinking?
I guess they, like all of us, are just fed up with being poo.

But they want to keep Dumma  :lol :rollin :facepalm
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