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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2016, 12:26:59 PM »
I said this 3 months ago, we should have headhunted the best recruiters then, now we have to put up with rubbish again.

IMO all contracts should be up for review under Balmes guidance.

Pay them out, pee them off.

I would expect a recruiter to have to go through an application process as stringent as an AFL coach.

They would more then likely need to make a presentation on their views of our current list, evaluation of all players and a recommendation plan as a way forward.

Did M Clarke have to do this?

 :banghead :banghead :banghead

Not saying its a total contradiction to "headhunt the best recruiters" whilst at the same time have a prospective headhunter "go through an application process" but I certainly can't fathom the notion that the best recruiters are just waiting in the wings for the RFC call-up.

C'mon guys, can we be a little bit smart about what we want?

3 months ago, I would have thought the best recruiter in the country is probably doing more work than at any other time of year leading into the draft period for their respective club/institution. They would be contracted until after the draft period and as such are not able to just head over to punt road cause we splashed some cash at them.

Like, ffs  :help

Why not wait until after the draft?
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2016, 12:32:45 PM »
Has been on our payroll since 2007 so it's fair to say he is part of this recruiting mess we find ourselves in

Prior to that he was with the demons for 1 year.

You would think the idiots would have drawn a line in the sand and searched far and wide for the best scout but no not at comedyfc. All they did was demote a dud and replace him with another. It's Miller and Hackson all over again

Correct.  What process did we go through to find the best person?  Did we consider the 2IC's from the best recruiting teams in the business like geelong hawthorn Adelaide or bulldogs?  Why was this appointment made before the review was complete?  Why was it made before Balme could have his input?  For all the criticisms our recruiting dept has copped we sack the manager and appoint one of his staff.  It would be like sacking Hardwick and appointing Lade or Mellor.  Also Gale and Richardson made this appointment, the same people that brought you the Hardwick extension and the hampson houli and grigg extensions.  Seems its a job for a mate and an easy appointment without having to do the hard work.  Why is Blair kept on as the new blokes manager?  The more you look into this appointment the more questions and concerns you have.  The recruiting manager role is one of the most important roles as we are gonna rely on this bloke to put together our next premiership list but it seems we've taken a shortcut aporoach again.

You are hardly going to be able to talk to any other club's recruiting people at this time of the year with the trade and drafts on in the next 8 weeks. Blair has another year to run on his contract.

Overarching all this is the off field spending cap. Can't be paying out contracts to multiple people especially if you need to payout a coaches contract in the next 12 months.

with the greatest respect this is a load of bs. why the hell not? Clubs poach players and coaches all year round and this should be no exception.
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2016, 12:40:48 PM »
Correct.  Money talks.
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2016, 12:43:41 PM »
Well done Benny and Peggy :clapping

Ffs
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2016, 12:50:06 PM »
Correct.  Money talks.
Gotta love football banter.

The name "money talks" mantra will literally be used in the same sentence as "club loyalty" and "one-club player".

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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2016, 12:51:14 PM »
Well done Benny and Peggy :clapping

Ffs

for every rare good thing they do (balme) they go and stuff it up  with rubbish like this.

"Sorry guys we are going to keep you for a year  but by all means keep looking around"

"hey francois sorry we think you are the worst recruiter in the country and has been so many years, but we are a bunch of soft c o c k s so we will just demote you and replace you with your side kick clarke on the same day we sign up balmy, all good francois?"

seriously what the stuff do you expect fail and peggy sue to do. She is weak as pee and he is just dillusional.





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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2016, 12:55:53 PM »
Well done Benny and Peggy :clapping

Ffs

for every rare good thing they do (balme) they go and stuff it up  with rubbish like this.

"Sorry guys we are going to keep you for a year  but by all means keep looking around"

"hey francois sorry we think you are the worst recruiter in the country and has been so many years, but we are a bunch of soft c o c k s so we will just demote you and replace you with your side kick clarke on the same day we sign up balmy, all good francois?"

seriously what the stuff do you expect fail and peggy sue to do. She is weak as pee and he is just dillusional.

PEGGY knows nothing about football therefore listens to gale.
Gale is an idiot.
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2016, 01:38:46 PM »
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2016, 01:39:04 PM »
I think they should have looked out of the club for the position and their failure to do so does not inspire confidence.

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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2016, 01:57:22 PM »
I think they should have looked out of the club for the position and their failure to do so does not inspire confidence.
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2016, 01:58:49 PM »
Woe is me

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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2016, 02:21:15 PM »
"Look, we're happy to shuffle things around but at the end of the day, we wont be admitting we got anything wrong, as most of the blame will be defered."
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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2016, 02:30:41 PM »
Has been on our payroll since 2007 so it's fair to say he is part of this recruiting mess we find ourselves in

Prior to that he was with the demons for 1 year.

You would think the idiots would have drawn a line in the sand and searched far and wide for the best scout but no not at comedyfc. All they did was demote a dud and replace him with another. It's Miller and Hackson all over again
Jackson is 61. He was not sacked, he was made a part time consultant so you could consider it a transition to retirement arrangement

Clarke (on LinkedIn) was a Recruiting Officer at Melbourne from 1997 - 2008.
He joined Richmond in 2009.

Harry I presume you were fishing but in case others are unaware, Luke Williams was the 2IC to Steve Wells at Geelong for 14 years.
He went to Carlton but resigned for "personal reasons" after less than a year, weeks before the 2013 draft.
He then fell into our arms. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-12-16/tiger-talent-scout-coup

Like others I cannot understand why you would make a hurried change in recruiting just before the draft and as you announce a new head of football.

The changes (or rather non-changes) in the fitness department continue the method with Douglas out and Meehan and Inness internally promoted.

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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2016, 02:35:37 PM »
Has been on our payroll since 2007 so it's fair to say he is part of this recruiting mess we find ourselves in

Prior to that he was with the demons for 1 year.

You would think the idiots would have drawn a line in the sand and searched far and wide for the best scout but no not at comedyfc. All they did was demote a dud and replace him with another. It's Miller and Hackson all over again

Correct.  What process did we go through to find the best person?  Did we consider the 2IC's from the best recruiting teams in the business like geelong hawthorn Adelaide or bulldogs?  Why was this appointment made before the review was complete?  Why was it made before Balme could have his input?  For all the criticisms our recruiting dept has copped we sack the manager and appoint one of his staff.  It would be like sacking Hardwick and appointing Lade or Mellor.  Also Gale and Richardson made this appointment, the same people that brought you the Hardwick extension and the hampson houli and grigg extensions.  Seems its a job for a mate and an easy appointment without having to do the hard work.  Why is Blair kept on as the new blokes manager?  The more you look into this appointment the more questions and concerns you have.  The recruiting manager role is one of the most important roles as we are gonna rely on this bloke to put together our next premiership list but it seems we've taken a shortcut aporoach again.

You are hardly going to be able to talk to any other club's recruiting people at this time of the year with the trade and drafts on in the next 8 weeks. Blair has another year to run on his contract.

Overarching all this is the off field spending cap. Can't be paying out contracts to multiple people especially if you need to payout a coaches contract in the next 12 months.

with the greatest respect this is a load of bs. why the hell not? Clubs poach players and coaches all year round and this should be no exception.

Nothing stopping conversation but you are hardly going to prise a top line recruiter away from his existing club and into your club's system on the eve of the trade/draft period

Yes clubs poach players all year round but they don't announce it nor get the player into their club until after the season is over. Same will happen with the recruiters.

So we should have just left Jackson in charge?

And again you cannot just throw money at them as there is the spending cap to keep within.

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Re: Matthew Clarke --- to replace Francis Jackson as head recruiter
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2016, 02:42:10 PM »
That's right.

Unless a physical amount of remuneration is mentioned, it's merely chit chat.
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