Author Topic: Dustin Martin's contract talk thread / Dusty a Tiger for next 7 years [update]  (Read 187214 times)

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Imagine what you'd have to give up to get Dusty, given that RFC can match any offer tabled to him.

A lot of teams might be put off by that.

Personally I'd be asking for two first round picks plus change - maybe 2nd round picks also.

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I just think that the rest FA factor makes it a confusion situation. If we match and offer (thus forcing a trade), I can't see him leaving. This doesn't appear to me to be a P.Dangerfield type situation where Dangerfield asked to leave his club at the peak of his powers. I think this is just about getting his money's worth. So he either stays with us for slight unders or at top market price - or we don't up our offer and he decides to leave - which means compensation (a likely mid first round pick).

We might, with all that extra cap space just unload a whopping deal for Fyfe and try and get a like-for-like, but I can't actually envisage a scenario where we get a trade deal of picks etc.

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I wonder how much is in the bank. Personally I'd be throwing the sink at Fyfe and telling Dusty to stick around and play alongside him.

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I still think we are in a win win situation here.  If he stays that's awesome but if he holds us to ransom then get the 2 first round draft picks and use those 4 picks to bring in 4 youngsters in the top 20. 
We all though losing Lids & Vickery was going to send us down the ladder but this shows that you can lose a great player and still come out on top
However, I believe he will stay.

If we were to lose him and I hope we dont - 4 top 20 picks and Fyfe thanks

If Fyfe was to come to Richmond I'd imagine playing with Martin would be a greater selling point than merely just replacing him.

No doubt, would be incredible if we pulled it off but cant see it happening due to budget constraints

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Its simple we just match whatever - If another club can afford it we can. Lose Dusty and Ill just about give up!

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Dusty is Danger's equal, so show him the money: Carey (Age)
« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2017, 06:55:18 PM »
Dusty is Danger's equal, so show him the money

Wayne Carey
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13 April 2017


After three rounds, Dustin Martin sits comfortably alongside Patrick Dangerfield as the most explosive weapon in the game.

While Danger bursts through packs with power and speed, Martin does it with sheer force.

This time last year I wrote about Dusty maturing right before our eyes, both as a person and as a footballer, but in 2017 he's taken his game to a whole new level. That's despite the heavy scrutiny that comes with being out of contract.

Many will remember his last round of talks, when Martin looked elsewhere and came back with his tail between his legs. But now the tide has turned.

The challenges he's faced on his football journey have been well documented and Richmond has certainly supported him.

But while the Tigers would rightly consider themselves a big part of Dusty's development, it's time for them to pay him what he's worth.

That figure is growing by the week, but right now I have no doubt it is at least $1 million a season.

Martin finished runner-up in the Tigers best and fairest in 2015 before winning it last year, and if he maintains his form he'll not only take home back-to-back Jack Dyer Medals, but might also claim the Brownlow.

Already he probably has nine votes. At worst seven or eight.

Last year Martin kicked nine goals for the entire season. This year he's booted eight in just three matches after being unleashed in the Tigers forward line.

While Dusty became something of an accumulator towards the end of last year, he's since proven to be one of the most damaging players forward of centre.

One on one he's almost unbeatable and Richmond coach Damien Hardwick deserves credit for having the courage to play him inside 50 for longer periods.

The addition of Dion Prestia and Josh Caddy has allowed the Tigers to be more flexible, while the likes of Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler and Jason Castagna have also played a vital role in keeping the ball locked in that dangerous area being patrolled by the number four.

But that's not to say Martin isn't still having a massive impact in the midfield.

His stoppage work on the weekend was incredible, and at one stage he had as many clearances as the entire West Coast team combined. He'd finish with 15 in total, on a day that was all about gaining metres.

Martin is on track to smash the existing record, averaging 741 metres gained per match.

It will be fascinating to see if he can maintain those standards over the next 14-15 weeks, particularly if he remains unsigned.

The longer it drags on, the more likely it generally seems a player is leaving. There are many factors Dustin and his management will be grappling with and while footballers should never make a decision on money alone, this will be the contract that sets up him for life.

At 25, and 26 before season's end, he's at the peak of his powers. A four to five year deal will take Martin into his 30s and clearly then you have much less bargaining power. It means this is most definitely 'the one'.

But at the same time, Richmond winning games will probably be a far bigger carrot than an extra $100-200,000 in the bank.

While someone like Joel Selwood has played finals just about his entire career, for footballers, generally, there are more downs than ups.

Therefore, does Dusty really want to go chasing more money at a club that might be a long way from contention?

Gary Ablett would never have thought his time at the Gold Coast would end up like it has, even if he has been set up financially.

I think he truly believed the Suns could impact the competition in years three, four and five, but in football there are no guarantees.

Ultimately the club is bigger than any individual and most teams will generally think they're owed something by the players they've drafted and developed.

But in today's world of free agency, things have changed. Footy is a business now, and we regularly have champion players being told to move clubs or retire. In turn loyalty is perhaps not what it once was. At the end of the day, your time in the game is short.

While Dustin Martin is yet to deliver Richmond a premiership, I think he owes them nothing. And if they want to keep him in yellow and black, it's time he's paid as the superstar he has become.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-tigers-should-pay-dustin-martin-like-the-superstar-he-has-become-20170413-gvk4b9.html

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Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #111 on: April 17, 2017, 09:59:58 PM »
Hutchy just said there's some breaking news about Dusty coming up on Footy Classified.

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Re: Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2017, 10:11:15 PM »
Tigers claimed they hadn't increased the 5-year $800k offer to Dusty.

Caro says Richmond will now bump that offer up to a million per year.

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Re: Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2017, 11:13:20 PM »
He's probably worth it.

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Re: Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #114 on: April 17, 2017, 11:19:15 PM »
Jayden short gave me some breaking news a week or two ago. Adamant that dusty has already told club he will be continuing on with us... even said that he reckons has signed. But I doubt that.

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Re: Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #115 on: April 18, 2017, 04:30:10 AM »
Dusty is going anywhere
The only thing Hutchy broke tonight was wind
Rubbish show
Most of the them are

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Re: Breaking news about Dustin Martin: Hutchy
« Reply #116 on: April 18, 2017, 06:55:54 AM »
Hutchy just said there's some breaking news about Dusty coming up on Footy Classified.

One of the best non story's of the year

Told us nothing

But clearly stated the bleeding obvious

"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

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Dusty's price rising with no new deal in sight (afl site)
« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2017, 12:42:57 PM »
Dusty's price rising with no new deal in sight

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May 3, 2017 10:44 AM


RICHMOND insists conversations with Dustin Martin's manager, Ralph Carr, are still taking place regularly, but concede an in-season contract extension for the star midfielder looks increasingly unlikely.

Martin's price tag continues to rise and there's no sign of a new deal on the horizon.

"It's very unlikely that it would be signed before the end of the season as that's the decision we made six weeks ago," Carr told AFL.com.au on Wednesday.

Martin's salary expectations are on the up after the Tigers' surprise 5-1 start to the season.

He's continuing to show potential suitors just how durable he is, brushing off calls to wear a helmet after suffering a fractured cheekbone in round two.

Then in recent weeks the midfielder has powered through groin soreness.

Contract speculation hasn't hampered his form, with Martin averaging 28.5 disposals, 4.2 tackles and a career-high 6.8 clearances a game.

Richmond continues to do everything it can to show its love for the 25-year-old.

With his father Shane barred from returning to Australia, the club has allowed Martin to take leave to visit him in New Zealand.

Martin becomes a restricted free agent in October.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-03/dustys-price-rising-with-no-new-deal-in-sight

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If I was Dusty's manager I would point out to Richmond that if you are willing to pay $700k for a midget who cant kick or run out a match out then Dusty would be worth $1.4 million.

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If I was Dusty's manager I would point out to Richmond that if you are willing to pay $700k for a midget who cant kick or run out a match out then Dusty would be worth $1.4 million.

So effectively you are saying Dusty is valued the same as two midgets who cant kick?