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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2017, 10:07:59 PM »
Premiers baby.., Go you stuffing TIGERS

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« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2017, 10:18:24 PM »
Susie mentioned female or male posing...
I would like to see a mans nipples posing with the medallion..
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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2017, 10:20:14 PM »
WP you have the chop stix vibe about you on this topic. Hope i am wrong like you were then. :lol

dont worry about caro's article or anyone else trying to ruin our premiership vibe.

stuff em all i say

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A vibe ala chopstick?

Not really.

I have a view that I will continue to keep to myself until the police finish their investigation.

All I will say is I'm peeved that a very special time for our footy club has been hijacked by 2 incredibly stupid individuals

And BTW now Robbo written his opnion piece piece on this as well

And the HUN (behind thier pesky paywall) are saying the cops have a list Tiger player phones they want to examine to find put whp distributed the photo

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-compile-hit-list-of-tigers-players-whose-phones-they-want-to-examine/news-story/327555a7fd51ae7ffbe2b32145dfb944&memtype=anonymous
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« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2017, 11:16:43 PM »
Richmond topless photo: Police compile hit list of Tigers players whose phones they want to examine

ALEKS DEVIC AND DAVID HURLEY,
Herald Sun
12 October 2017


POLICE have drawn up a hit list of Richmond players whose phones they want to examine to find out who distributed the photo of a topless woman wearing a premiership medal.

The club said on Wednesday that it would co-operate with the police investigation.

The woman, who consented to the photo being taken by a player but who claims it was widely forwarded without her knowledge or permission, is said to be “distraught”.

One source said: “She is a victim of a serious criminal ­offence in all of this.”

A source close to sexting investigations said as part of the forensic probe, phone records would be examined: “That will prove who has seen the photo and shared the photo — you can’t hide the evidence trail.”

It is also open to detectives to issue warrants on social media providers, including WhatsApp, Snapchat and Instagram, to check the photo’s digital footprints.

The Herald Sun revealed on Wednesday that after the woman had posed for the photo — which did not show her face — the player who took it had ­assured her the image had been deleted.

Instead, he sent the photo to teammates and friends, as a result of which the racy image went viral, being shared in texts, online, and on social media platforms.

It is understood the photo was taken during the Tigers’ flag celebrations but surfaced only last week.

In its statement on Wednesday, Richmond Football Club said: “As the matter is subject to a police investigation, we will fully assist with their inquiries, should that be required.

“At the Richmond Football Club, we feel very strongly about the positive role of women at our club and in sport generally.

“We are committed to creating an environment where women can thrive and we are dedicated to promoting attitudes and behaviours that are respectful and supportive of women.”

The AFL was silent on the issue again yesterday despite its integrity unit looking into the incident and speaking to the woman.

Victoria Police would not provide further details.

“As the investigation is ongoing, it would be inappropriate to comment further,” a spokesman said.

Federal Attorney-General George Brandis also weighed in, saying the sharing of the photo was “not appropriate”.

“For a person’s image to be shared on social media without their consent, and potentially to go viral on social media, is a gross affront to their privacy,” Senator Brandis said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-compile-hit-list-of-tigers-players-whose-phones-they-want-to-examine/news-story/327555a7fd51ae7ffbe2b32145dfb944

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2017, 11:17:34 PM »
AFL's clumsy efforts to rewrite its respect and responsibility policy exposed

Caroline Wilson
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12 October 2017


If it is true that a Richmond premiership player passed on to friends and teammates personal photographs of a semi-naked woman, then the Tigers cannot defend him. And the AFL, if required, must overrule the club and suspend him.

As damaging as this story could become for the club and as uncomfortable as it is for the image-conscious AFL, then just imagine how the young woman in question must feel. If what she has alleged took place - and certainly anyone who wants to has seen the photograph - then she has been violated and humiliated.

And you can only imagine what her parents must be going through. It was the family who took this sordid allegation to the club in a complaint that has finished up in the hands of police and again exposed the AFL's clumsy efforts to rewrite its respect and responsibility policy.

Now the woman in this case is traumatised and the AFL's role has been to reach out to support her. Richmond are silent and waiting for the results of the police investigation. Clearly this grubby story has dealt a major blow to a club that was rightly presenting as a new benchmark within the competition.

It seems frankly outrageous that anyone at Richmond could play down the allegations on the basis that the woman's face is not shown in the photograph with the premiership medal. If her accusations are confirmed then the AFL must take a stand on what amounts to "sexting'', a form of horrible social media abuse and violation and a practice that has become all too regular.

Almost eight years ago the AFL struggled with the issue when a nude photograph of Lara Bingle came to light, allegedly sent around after being taken by Brendan Fevola. To his credit, Adrian Anderson - who oversaw both football and integrity at the AFL - identified the seriousness of the allegation. This despite wide sections of the AFL community pointing the finger at Bingle's role in the affair. More recently, in 2014, Carlton did not wait for the long arm of the law to sack Josh Bootsma for a significantly more serious, sinister and systematic abuse on social media.

In a stark piece of irony, it is almost two years since another woman approached the Tigers and accused Dustin Martin of threatening her with a set of chopsticks in a Chapel Street restaurant. Martin was investigated by police, the AFL and Richmond and cleared.

Amid the confusion and lack of relevant guidelines, the AFL issued Martin with a suspended fine and president Peggy O'Neal later said the club regretted doing that deal because the player, in Richmond's view, had done nothing wrong.

By January 2016 AFL boss Gillon McLachlan said the league would review and rewrite its social policy because it was by then more than a decade old, out-dated and found wanting. Just as some protagonists in days past boasted to their mates, now they have a variety of electronic mechanisms to ensure the word is spread and widely, never mind the other party.

The Australian Human Rights commissioner, Kate Jenkins, - who had completed some effective work with the Victoria Police and the state's firefighting services - was seconded onto a high-profile working party, but the project floundered.

Passed from one AFL executive to the competition's new diversity chief Tanya Hosch, a social activist, in the second half of last year, Hosch then outsourced to the Canberra-based consultants Rapid Context. One year later, in August, after two senior married AFL executives had been sacked for having affairs with staffers, the 18 club chiefs were thoroughly sounded out for a policy overhaul over sexual abuse, harassment and discrimination.

Put through a scenario-based exercise at their annual two-day catch-up, some of the hypotheticals included "sexting''. The conversations that followed raised the complex parallel challenges thrown up when both the game and the law were investigating a complaint.

In short, 21 months have passed since McLachlan identified flaws in the AFL's respect and responsibility policy and still no modern improved replacement exists.

It is true that every case is different, but in this case the Richmond player, if guilty, should not only be fined, but suspended from the club for a period and probably for a number of games.

The AFL did not sufficiently stand up for Marc Murphy's wife during the season, putting the Jake Carlisle incident down to on-field sledging, but we suspect it will stand up now. As a self-declared community leader this presents the game with an ideal opportunity to make plain its disgust with social media abuse.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afls-clumsy-efforts-to-rewrite-its-respect-and-responsibility-policy-exposed-20171011-gyz2no.html

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2017, 11:19:26 PM »
There’s nothing harmless about image abuse, it leaves a burden of shame

JULIE INMAN GRANT,
Herald Sun
12 October 2017


AS a Richmond fan, I rode the wave of jubilation when the Tigers broke their 37-year premiership drought to defeat Adelaide and win the AFL Grand Final two weeks ago. I’ve even sung the Richmond team song to my daughter as a lullaby.

Millions of Australians joined in the spirit of celebration after what was an incredible underdog victory, and we all witnessed scenes of revelry as the players and supporters celebrated their hard-fought achievement.

Today, those feelings are tinged with disappointment for many fans, including myself. According to reports, an intimate image of a young woman wearing a Richmond player’s premiership medal was shared without her consent.

In fact, the woman asked that the image be deleted. She was told it had been; however, the image was instead shared broadly with others online.

We call this image-based abuse. At the eSafety Office, we’ve made it a top priority to tackle this kind of insidious online practice. This month, we’ll be launching a national online portal and reporting tool to help Australians access tangible support when this online abuse occurs.

Sadly, the fact we’re seeing more high-profile cases of image-based abuse in the media is consistent with recent research which reveals that one in five Australians have been a victim of it.

As shocking as those statistics are, it’s worse for indigenous Australians and Australians with a disability. Fifty per cent of them have experienced image-based abuse.

For the victim, however, this is not a passing indiscretion that will blow over tomorrow. This will become a lasting part of that person’s digital footprint.

It’s important to remember that behind each of these images is a person, feeling violated and powerless. They will most likely feel intense angst as people try to discover their identity and publicly name and shame them.

Many victims who have been exposed in this way experience long-term anxiety, fear and depression. This is a fear that never really dissipates — not knowing where or when their compromising photos will pop up and be shown to friends, family, work colleagues or a current partner.

While the Richmond incident may be a cautionary tale of a victory march gone wrong, the simple fact of the matter is that the sharing of intimate images is becoming a normal courtship ritual among young people. It also represents a new form of peer pressure they are not equipped to resist. But the fact of the matter is that while many people may anecdotally understand the risks, few people are prepared for the fallout that ensues once an intimate image is shared online.

At the eSafety Office, we’ve received about 400 complaints about image-based abuse and we’ve had success in helping victims get their images removed online. Our ability to help victims in that way will soon be enhanced through the release of the portal.

However, we know that this is just the tip of the iceberg and that there are many more Australians we can help.

Serious cultural change needs to happen to stop this practice in its tracks. There are far too many passive players in image-based abuse — people we call “bystanders”. They see the images. They know it’s wrong, yet they still do nothing.

We all have a role to play in creating a culture of respect, where the “upstanders” outnumber the bystanders and where we no longer tolerate or trivialise the damage caused by image-based abuse.

As a society, we need to do more. It’s not acceptable to blame the victim for allowing the image to be taken in the first place. We need to focus on educating people about the importance of consent, respect, and empathy — it’s never acceptable to share someone’s intimate image without their consent.

THERE are many reasons someone might decide to share an image without consent. It could be seen as a harmless bit of fun or “entertainment” without a true appreciation of the potential devastation that can be caused.

We need to lead the way for our youth and teach them that respect must be universal and that online abuse is never acceptable.

As role models, the Richmond Football Club and the AFL have a unique opportunity to model good online behaviour and raise awareness about this issue. We’ve offered to support the AFL in developing their response and in training their players, coaches and staff.

In fact, whether you realise it or not, every day we set an example for young people, our friends and family.

That’s an incredible amount of power we possess and we have a responsibility to do the right thing whether it be on the field, off the field, online or offline.

Julie Inman Grant is the eSafety Commissioner


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/theres-nothing-harmless-about-image-abuse-it-leaves-a-burden-of-shame/news-story/85b1d0d491d601d15c36f74b3f6735e1

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« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2017, 11:20:32 PM »
AFL stars not above law but photo scandal shouldn’t cost a player his job, writes Mark Robinson

MARK ROBINSON,
Herald Sun
October 12, 2017


BUFFOONERY is everywhere.

What started as fun with a photograph of a bare-breasted woman wearing a premiership medallion could end badly for a lot of people.

By Monday, the image was popular on social media.

By Tuesday, more people had seen it than attended the Grand Final.

By Wednesday, maybe it’s a million or two million people, such is the information highway.

Curious, though, why it took until Richmond president Peggy O’Neal was asked about the situation on the ABC on Monday night — nine days after the Grand Final — for it to become a serious issue.

It’s inconceivable that at least one of the AFL’s 600-odd staff wasn’t sent the photograph in those early days.

All the facts are yet to be determined.

The medal is legit, the picture was taken with the woman’s consent and it found its way to the internet.

How it got there is simple enough: A couple of taps of the mobile phone.

Who pushed the buttons is the question. If that person can be determined — and the accusation is it’s a Richmond player — then that player is in trouble with the law.

The player will likely be charged with transporting a pornographic image and doing so without consent, which is more than buffoonery. It is illegal.

The woman is probably beside herself that she trusted the photographer.

She would be embarrassed and feel deceived.

The problem is — and always will be — young people make mistakes. These days the evidence is much harder to extinguish.

This started as harmless fun and is a now a police investigation.

The blame for the picture being circulated is on the person who first pushed the send button.

Some people are insensitive to the woman because, you know, it’s only breasts and she was up for the photograph. It’s old-school thinking for a new-age crime.

There’s a reason a law is in place: To stop and discourage exactly what’s happened here.

Experts say sexting is a serious issue in society.

Clearly, no one has the right to post images of naked people on the internet without permission.

The AFL would be furious. It has been lambasted for its slow movement on its respect and responsibility policy towards women.

And now this — a direct hit to respect and responsibility towards women.

AFL boss Gillon McLachlan will have to act because the AFL can’t say it supports women and then allow this behaviour to remain unchallenged.

It’s not a hanging offence, either. If a player were to lose his job for being the first to send the image, that would be a gross over-reaction.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/afl-stars-not-above-law-but-photo-scandal-shouldnt-cost-a-player-his-job-writes-mark-robinson/news-story/cfe39f546ead7a744ad13f500c6e9583

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2017, 11:56:20 PM »

I have a view that I will continue to keep to myself until the police finish their investigation.

All I will say is I'm peeved that a very special time for our footy club has been hijacked by 2 incredibly stupid individuals


I'm hearing you on this.

I will wait til all the facts are known, but if it transpires that our player/s have a case to answer in any way shape or form, I will be very disappointed that their actions have taken the shine off our premiership. Especially when you consider that the team has built such a strong bond.

I am still troubled though by the fact that there is so much media speculation about this. I understand the public interest and the media's need to satisfy it, but a number of journalists are presenting a lot of 'fact' which at this stage, seems to be speculation.

Hopefully the Police investigation can be concluded quickly so that the issue can be addressed one way or the other.

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« Reply #98 on: October 12, 2017, 01:29:20 AM »
Caro has written about it.

Unfortunately I can't repost it; it's asking me to pay ofr the privilege  ;D

For future reference, if you enter the title of the article in a Google search and click on the link, paywall averted for that article  ;)
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« Reply #99 on: October 12, 2017, 02:31:29 AM »
If it doesn't see her face I wonder how she can even prove the photo being circulated was of her rack and not some other willing lass?

Glad the other incident seems to be put to bed, the chick with 27,000+ followers on Instagram ... Good luck with that.


Otherwise there is no excuse for sharing photos like that without consent. It's disrespectful and to blame the woman and call her irresponsible is the same mentality as 'rape blame', which is to suggest that women should be accountable for their own sexual assaults and harassments for attracting that attention in the first place.

The responsibility lies with the offender, and unfortunately the statistics are damning against men I'm afraid.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #100 on: October 12, 2017, 06:11:42 AM »
What a load of bs

Who gives a stuff. It's no wonder people don't rate the police in this country, if this is a priority for them.

We won a flag WP it's only an issue if you let it be like those other clowns susie obrien and blobbo, who continually try to stay relevant.

Il say again. This was a set up by the ABC, and anyone who knows anything about that station will know how opportunistic and pathetic they are.

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« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2017, 07:12:00 AM »
So this girl, who the player has never met poor to this, specifically goes to this event to hook up with a player. They both have  a few drinks and then go off to sleep with each other. She then exposes herself to this stranger and allows herself to be photographed naked with the medal. She already displays she is hardly worried about privacy. She has exposed herself to a perfect stranger. At some point along the line, she asks for the photo to be deleted. We don't know whether the player was drunk at this time and even if agreed, can he remember agreeing later as he sent the photo off the next day.

I'm not condoning his actions, but it is hardly a hangable offence. You could argue she was almost predatory. What's to say she did not set this up? Whose idea was it to wear the medal? She agreed to the photo. Why? We all no deleting things off phones/computers never is totally successful as it can be found again by certain software.

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« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2017, 07:33:23 AM »
So this girl, who the player has never met poor to this, specifically goes to this event to hook up with a player. They both have  a few drinks and then go off to sleep with each other. She then exposes herself to this stranger and allows herself to be photographed naked with the medal. She already displays she is hardly worried about privacy. She has exposed herself to a perfect stranger. At some point along the line, she asks for the photo to be deleted. We don't know whether the player was drunk at this time and even if agreed, can he remember agreeing later as he sent the photo off the next day.

I'm not condoning his actions, but it is hardly a hangable offence. You could argue she was almost predatory. What's to say she did not set this up? Whose idea was it to wear the medal? She agreed to the photo. Why? We all no deleting things off phones/computers never is totally successful as it can be found again by certain software.

There's a lot we don't know here.

All that is well and good Doc but obviously in today's PC culture the woman is the victim and the man is the predator with an assumption of guilty until proven innocent.
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« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2017, 07:49:04 AM »
So this girl, who the player has never met poor to this, specifically goes to this event to hook up with a player. They both have  a few drinks and then go off to sleep with each other. She then exposes herself to this stranger and allows herself to be photographed naked with the medal. She already displays she is hardly worried about privacy. She has exposed herself to a perfect stranger. At some point along the line, she asks for the photo to be deleted. We don't know whether the player was drunk at this time and even if agreed, can he remember agreeing later as he sent the photo off the next day.

I'm not condoning his actions, but it is hardly a hangable offence. You could argue she was almost predatory. What's to say she did not set this up? Whose idea was it to wear the medal? She agreed to the photo. Why? We all no deleting things off phones/computers never is totally successful as it can be found again by certain software.

There's a lot we don't know here.

All that is well and good Doc but obviously in today's PC culture the woman is the victim and the man is the predator with an assumption of guilty until proven innocent.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2017, 07:59:03 AM »
So this girl, who the player has never met poor to this, specifically goes to this event to hook up with a player. They both have  a few drinks and then go off to sleep with each other. She then exposes herself to this stranger and allows herself to be photographed naked with the medal. She already displays she is hardly worried about privacy. She has exposed herself to a perfect stranger. At some point along the line, she asks for the photo to be deleted. We don't know whether the player was drunk at this time and even if agreed, can he remember agreeing later as he sent the photo off the next day.

I'm not condoning his actions, but it is hardly a hangable offence. You could argue she was almost predatory. What's to say she did not set this up? Whose idea was it to wear the medal? She agreed to the photo. Why? We all no deleting things off phones/computers never is totally successful as it can be found again by certain software.

There's a lot we don't know here.

All that is well and good Doc but obviously in today's PC culture the woman is the victim and the man is the predator with an assumption of guilty until proven innocent.

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