Author Topic: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members  (Read 5787 times)

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2017, 09:05:35 PM »
Hawks are cooking up something to ensure they are number 1 in 2018. Someone on BF says they're at 64k as of several days ago which i find astonishingly ridiculous if true

That 64k was made up lol. They’re about 60k

even 60k is rubbish

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2017, 09:15:29 PM »
Hawks are cooking up something to ensure they are number 1 in 2018. Someone on BF says they're at 64k as of several days ago which i find astonishingly ridiculous if true

That 64k was made up lol. They’re about 60k

even 60k is rubbish

The cowards are always the first to show off their numbers until we overtake them.  Haven’t seen a thing yet from them. Same with Collingwood. As soon as the Hawks matched them about 3 years ago they waited until round 22 when they just squeezed past them to show their numbers

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2017, 11:00:54 PM »
It's a Race?

Why??
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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2017, 11:15:21 PM »
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2017, 06:42:53 AM »
It's a Race?

Why??

It's a wacky race

But our version of Dastardly and Mutley have left

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2017, 09:06:36 AM »
100000 members so what, you get to the GF and only 20K can get in, what a joke, they take your money and then deny you access to the GF unless you want to pay 2K

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2017, 08:29:18 PM »
100000 members so what, you get to the GF and only 20K can get in, what a joke, they take your money and then deny you access to the GF unless you want to pay 2K

I agree with Mint, Its pretty disappointing when you've been a member for say 20 years straight and longer and you miss out to
people just because they have more money. A lot of us were there contributing when we were rubbish for a long time, but corporates
are more important it seems.

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2017, 08:50:46 PM »
It is difficult for both sides. Often 1 corporate payment is more than 20 years of contributions. The club is thus in a difficult bind.
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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2017, 09:59:56 PM »
It's not the club's fault that the AFL only allocate 18k odd tickets to competing club members

Club does the best they can in a no win situation. A ballot is the fairest method available

FWIW the number of members who have guaranteed GF tickets (and yes i am one, 30+ year member & been a coterie member for over 10 yrs now) is not as high as what you may think.
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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2017, 11:35:36 PM »
It's called supply and demand gents
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2017, 07:37:07 AM »
It's not the club's fault that the AFL only allocate 18k odd tickets to competing club members

Club does the best they can in a no win situation. A ballot is the fairest method available

FWIW the number of members who have guaranteed GF tickets (and yes i am one, 30+ year member & been a coterie member for over 10 yrs now) is not as high as what you may think.

I think it is pretty high, purely speculation on my behalf....But I didn't know many on the P2 Ballot that were successful
Be interesting to know the number of guarantees if you can figure it out

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2017, 10:18:44 AM »
Whilst it might not be a race there is an advantage in having the highest membership when seeking major sponsors as well as considerations in the home and away draw.

We went past the bums on seats membership base several years ago. It will become increasingly harder for the rank and file to get GF and finals tickets unless you can pay the high $

Have a look at the big soccer clubs in Europe. They have well over 100,000 members and some like FC Barcelona have closed their membership.

These days in the internet world membership don't necessarily have to mean tickets to games. The club could build a media arm and membership entitles the member to view Richmond centric information. Similar to how the media outlets ate using paywalls to block content to non-paying readers

100,000 members each spending $1 a day on average brings in $36.5million.


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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2017, 11:11:30 AM »
Whilst it might not be a race there is an advantage in having the highest membership when seeking major sponsors as well as considerations in the home and away draw.

We went past the bums on seats membership base several years ago. It will become increasingly harder for the rank and file to get GF and finals tickets unless you can pay the high $

Have a look at the big soccer clubs in Europe. They have well over 100,000 members and some like FC Barcelona have closed their membership.

These days in the internet world membership don't necessarily have to mean tickets to games. The club could build a media arm and membership entitles the member to view Richmond centric information. Similar to how the media outlets ate using paywalls to block content to non-paying readers

100,000 members each spending $1 a day on average brings in $36.5million.

That is absolutely correct. From my perspective this is more than a peeing contest and on a personal level i dont give a crap - we all know we have a much much bigger supporter base. But it grinds my gears that the hawks have an MO to be the number 1 membership side year in year out so they can utilise and bargain this position of strength with sponsors, and to achieve this, a number of very well off supporters buy in bulk each year, so yes, they are real memberships bought and paid for, but theyre not real people, probably why their membership areas are never full even though they are number 1 supposedly  ::)

I mean 60k already? after the season theyve had and are about to have, they are going to get around 80k+?? - comeon..

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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2017, 11:12:51 AM »
Whilst it might not be a race there is an advantage in having the highest membership when seeking major sponsors as well as considerations in the home and away draw.

We went past the bums on seats membership base several years ago. It will become increasingly harder for the rank and file to get GF and finals tickets unless you can pay the high $

Have a look at the big soccer clubs in Europe. They have well over 100,000 members and some like FC Barcelona have closed their membership.

These days in the internet world membership don't necessarily have to mean tickets to games. The club could build a media arm and membership entitles the member to view Richmond centric information. Similar to how the media outlets ate using paywalls to block content to non-paying readers

100,000 members each spending $1 a day on average brings in $36.5million.

That is absolutely correct. From my perspective this is more than a peeing contest and on a personal level i dont give a crap - we all know we have a much much bigger supporter base. But it grinds my gears that the hawks have an MO to be the number 1 membership side year in year out so they can utilise and bargain this position of strength with sponsors, and to achieve this, a number of very well off supporters buy in bulk each year, so yes, they are real memberships bought and paid for, but theyre not real people, probably why their membership areas are never full even though they are number 1 supposedly  ::)
As well as their pets being members....... :snidegrin
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Re: The race to be the first club to 100,000 members
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2017, 09:02:35 PM »
If I was a major company looking to sponsor an AFL team, the last thing I'd probably look at is membership numbers.

Membership demographic and how this matched my product would be first and foremost.

Then I'd be looking at number of people attending games and the subsequent likelihood of media exposure (big games, especially Friday night).

Hawthorn can bulltwang about how many members they have all they want. Their crowd numbers suggest they do not have the membership they claim to have. Any team that accepts a lucrative deal to play in Tassie just to get the money isn't all it is cracked up to be, pure and simple. They can pretend it is about market penetration, but the Tassie deal pretty much keeps them afloat.