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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2023, 06:44:01 PM »
From Jon Ralph in the HeraldSun:

Clubs are keen for some certainty on the football department soft cap, which is scheduled to rise to $7.2 million next year.

Collingwood is one of the power clubs keen for a $2 million uplift to pre-Covid levels but the league is not yet in a position to rule on the 2024 figure.

Clubs are open to spending above a figure currently set at $7.2 million for 2024 but they do face prohibitive taxes of up to 200 per cent for every dollar they spend over the set limit.

Source: HeraldSun.

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2023, 09:43:27 PM »
Clubs will be allowed to pay their senior coaches 20 per cent of their annual salary outside the soft cap in a major boost to clubs’ football department spends for next season.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-introduces-new-deduction-to-allow-clubs-to-pay-portion-of-coachs-wages-outside-soft-cap/news-story/468e4e8006585ccc34c1de933b2aa5e7

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2023, 10:52:07 PM »
let me guess who is to most benefit.

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2023, 06:03:30 PM »
Senior coach deduction introduced as AFL increases soft cap limit

The AFL has increased the soft cap limit for 2024

By AAP
2 November 2023


CLUBS have got their wish and will be able to pay senior coaches up to 20 per cent of their salary outside the soft cap from next year.

The AFL has also lifted the cap on football department spending by $250,000, bringing the limit to $7.275 million.

Since club finances were slashed during the COVID-19 pandemic, clubs and coaches have been pleading with the AFL to lift the cap on spending and help remunerate staff.

"The changes are aimed at providing more flexibility and support as we continue to return back to a position more reflective of pre-COVID times," AFL boss Andrew Dillon said.

"The establishment of the senior coach deduction recognises the prominent role they play as leaders and ambassadors for their clubs and the sport.

"We know this was important and we worked closely with the senior coaches to achieve the best outcome we could for 2024."

A new underspend mechanism will also be introduced for next season allowing clubs who spend less than the soft cap limit to carry forward up to $100,000 to the next season.

It can only apply to the following season.

The AFL has also revised the luxury tax rates, with clubs to not be penalised as harshly if they spend above soft cap.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059887/senior-coach-deduction-introduced-as-afl-increases-soft-cap-limit

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AFL Statement - 2024 Soft Cap Changes

The AFL has today announced an increase to the Soft Cap limit for 2024 along with several other changes and new rebates, including a Senior Coach deduction.

An increase of $250,000 has been added to the Soft Cap for 2024, bringing the total Soft Cap Limit for 2024 to $7.275 million. The updated Limit also includes a $75,000 adjustment related to formerly deductible expenditure being transitioned into assessable expenditure.

A Senior Coach deduction has also been established allowing Clubs to deduct up to 20 per cent of their Senior Coaches’ salary, representing additional ‘spend capacity’ over and above the Soft Cap limit increase.

The Luxury Tax Framework has been revised with regards to the tax rates applicable on expenditure over the Soft Cap Limit of up to $1 million. Tax Rates for overages above $1 million remain consistent with the previous policy. These changes are designed to allow Clubs greater flexibility should they choose to exceed the Limit, up to a threshold that is not considered as materially impacting competitive balance.

A new underspend mechanism will be introduced from 2024, allowing Clubs to carry-forward up to $100,000 of any remaining Soft Cap capacity available under the Consolidated Soft Cap Limit into the future year. This underspend value may be rebated against assessable expenditure in excess of the Consolidated Limit and only in the following year.

AFL CEO Andrew Dillon said the changes were a result of an extensive consultation process with clubs, as well as recognising the important role senior coaches play.

“Following on-going discussions with Club Presidents, CEOs, Senior Coaches and Clubs, I am pleased to announce we have addressed a number of challenges and themes surrounding the soft cap.” Mr Dillon said.

“The changes are aimed at providing more flexibility and support as we continue to return back to a position more reflective of pre-covid times.

“The establishment of the Senior Coach deduction recognises the prominent role they play as leaders and ambassadors for their Clubs and the sport. We know this was important and we worked closely with the Senior Coaches to achieve the best outcome we could for 2024.”

Clubs will also be able to support the relocation of football staff without materially impacting the Club’s Soft Cap position.

Top line summary

Increase of $250,000 in the AFL Soft Cap limit for 2024 – noting this is in-line with previous guidance. There will also be adjustment to the limit of an extra $75,000 related to a deduction previously applied to administrative resources now permanently being transitioned into assessable expenditure.

This will result in the AFL Soft Cap limit increasing to $7,275,000 in 2024. We can also confirm that the $200,000 Gather Round deduction will continue to apply in 2024 as well.

Senior Coach Deduction (20% of salary outside cap) – this recognises the prominent role Senior Coaches have as leaders and ambassadors for their Clubs and the code.

Clubs may take a deduction to the value of 20% of their normally assessable remuneration of the Senior Coach. This effectively represents additional ‘spend capacity’ over and above the Soft Cap limit increase outlined above.

Reduced luxury tax rates – providing more flexibility for Clubs that might want to spend above the limit and are more reflective of the pre-COVID settings.

The Luxury Tax Framework has been revised with regards to the tax rates applicable on expenditure over the Soft Cap Limit of up to $1M. Tax Rates for overages above $1M remain consistent with the previous policy. These changes are designed to allow Clubs greater flexibility should they choose to exceed the Limit, up to a threshold that is not considered as materially impacting competitive balance.

Underspend / overspend mechanism – this provides more flexibility and means Clubs won’t lose cap capacity if they spend under the limit in a particular season.

A new underspend mechanism will be introduced from 2023, allowing Clubs to carry-forward up to $100K of any remaining Soft Cap capacity available under the Consolidated Soft Cap Limit into the future year. This underspend value may be rebated against assessable expenditure in excess of the Consolidated Limit in the following year only.

Staff relocation deductions – deductions now made available for Clubs that are supporting the relocation of football staff without materially impacting the Clubs Soft Cap position.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059885/2024-soft-cap-changes

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2023, 09:21:19 PM »
Ok now they have lowered the tax on over spend up to $1mil then suggest it's time to over spend on the the soft cap  ;D

Seriously, this whole thing is farcical

These incremental increases each season  are pathetic.

Just put it up by a million rather than playing games with these nothing gestures
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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2024, 09:02:57 PM »
More money, but coaches still lag behind increases for players

ByMichael Gleeson and Andrew Stafford
September 17, 2024 — 7.08pm

Clubs have had mixed reactions to the increase in the AFL’s soft cap limiting club spending on coaches, with several initially underwhelmed by changes.

The clubs stressed that they were still digesting the detail of the announcement before being prepared to comment in detail, but several were nonplussed by the increase.

The AFL announced a $400,000 rise next year in the soft cap on how much clubs could spend on non-player football payments before incurring a “luxury tax”. Of that first-year increase, $200,000 had already been allowed for this year after the introduction of Gather Round, but the cap would also rise by a further $250,000 a year for the following two years.

The AFL has significantly altered what is included and exempted from the soft cap on spending in the past five years. For instance, 20 per cent of a senior coach’s salary is now outside the cap and a range of mental health, welfare, allied health, professional development and Indigenous support payments are also not included. But several clubs quickly pointed out that even allowing for those changes the increase in the soft cap had barely moved on pre-COVID funding, particularly compared with how player wages had jumped back above pre-pandemic levels.

Officials from three clubs speaking on condition of anonymity said the soft cap on spending pre-COVID in 2020 was $9.68 million, while next year with the increase it will be $7.675 million.

The salary cap on players was $13 million in 2020; in 2025 it will be $17.7 million.

Three other clubs said the soft cap increase was welcome and while they always want more, they agreed it was a reasonable rise.

The AFL also announced an increase of $300,000 over three years for the AFLW soft cap. A $100,000 increase next year lifts the AFLW cap to $1.175 million, then an additional $100,000 a year for 2026 and 2027.

“In addition to the [AFL and AFLW] increases, further expenditure capacity will be made available through new and expanded deductions,” the AFL said.

“In total, across limit and deduction adjustments, it is projected that clubs will have expenditure capacity in 2025 in the range of $11 million-$11.5 million on average in their football program across both AFL and AFLW.”

The league also announced an extra $50,000 deduction available for AFL and AFLW clubs required to travel interstate for grand finals.

Brisbane Lions CEO Greg Swann said his club was happy with the outcome, saying the increase would allow the Lions to hire more staff and help retain existing employees.

“The cap had to rise because there’s competition for good staff, and because we were limited in what we could pay and what we could do,” Swann said.

“The industry was losing staff to other sports, other areas, things like that, so it probably just helps us retain our good staff, that’s probably the main thing.

“We can pay your existing staff more, or put more staff back on that we lost during COVID, when the soft cap initially was reduced, so it gives us those two choices.”

He said more resources could also be directed towards the playing group. “We used to have a pre-season camp, but we cut that out because we couldn’t afford it.

“Maybe we’ll do that again this year. So there’s some things you can look at there, and then there’s obviously personnel things.”

Swann said that finding and retaining staff was more difficult in a developing AFL market.

“That’s always been a little bit of a challenge. We don’t have a pool as big as Victoria, so a bit like our players, you have to pay people a little bit over to get them to come,” he said.

“But in the main, we’re not complaining. We’ve got good staff here. That’s probably not even a soft cap issue to be honest; that’s just the football fraternity in Queensland isn’t as strong as it is in all other states, other than maybe New South Wales.”

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/more-money-in-cap-but-coaches-still-lag-players-20240917-p5kbcc.html
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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2024, 01:18:00 AM »
7news last night saying an increase of $700k over three years.

From 2:04 min mark: https://x.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1835969648300626136

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2024, 07:16:41 AM »
Have to say with the increase on the AFLW soft cap there is no excuse now not to field our own VFLW side from 2025

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2024, 08:40:32 AM »
we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2024, 11:22:49 AM »
we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

You do realise you cannot spend any of the AFLW cap on the AFL program :-\ ::)

But I do agree the extra in AFL cap should be going to the fitness area. And then development
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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2024, 06:11:28 PM »
we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

You do realise you cannot spend any of the AFLW cap on the AFL program :-\ ::)

But I do agree the extra in AFL cap should be going to the fitness area. And then development

no i didnt so thanks for that

so if we dont spend up to the cap for aflw, what can that money be used for? Punt Road development?

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2024, 07:37:19 PM »
we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

You do realise you cannot spend any of the AFLW cap on the AFL program :-\ ::)

But I do agree the extra in AFL cap should be going to the fitness area. And then development

no i didnt so thanks for that

so if we dont spend up to the cap for aflw, what can that money be used for? Punt Road development?

So we could spend less on AFLW, and then overspend on the AFL softcap with the money saved on AFLW and pay the softcap penalty.

Sounds perfect

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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2024, 08:35:48 PM »
 :shh
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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2024, 09:24:58 PM »
we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

You do realise you cannot spend any of the AFLW cap on the AFL program :-\ ::)

But I do agree the extra in AFL cap should be going to the fitness area. And then development

no i didnt so thanks for that

so if we dont spend up to the cap for aflw, what can that money be used for? Punt Road development?

So we could spend less on AFLW, and then overspend on the AFL softcap with the money saved on AFLW and pay the softcap penalty.

Sounds perfect

That's certa9nly one option Damo

But we currently pay all of the AFLW soft cap

Have no idea on what or how but we supposedly do.


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Re: Football department soft cap [merged]
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2024, 12:19:00 PM »
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we should not be wasting our money on vflw, in fact we should be spending less.

we should be spending all our extra money on fixing these diabolical injuries that we have had over the last year or 2.

You do realise you cannot spend any of the AFLW cap on the AFL program :-\ ::)

But I do agree the extra in AFL cap should be going to the fitness area. And then development

no i didnt so thanks for that

so if we dont spend up to the cap for aflw, what can that money be used for? Punt Road development?

So we could spend less on AFLW, and then overspend on the AFL softcap with the money saved on AFLW and pay the softcap penalty.

Sounds perfect
:clapping