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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #240 on: September 21, 2019, 03:50:27 PM »
Ellis did well and those who wanted Houli and Soldo out have no idea.
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The Dusty tactic Richmond don't want you to know (Nine)
« Reply #241 on: September 22, 2019, 07:22:49 PM »
The Dusty tactic Richmond don't want you to know

By Melanie Dinjaski
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22 September 2019


Richmond's second half fightback to defeat Geelong in their AFL Preliminary Final was no accident.

Even if Bachar Houli and coach Damien Hardwick are keen to keep their cards close to their chest, there was a 'critical' adjustment which proved decisive.

On the Sunday AFL Footy Show on Nine, Houli was keeping mum on the key change identified by Bombers legend Matthew Lloyd, which helped Richmond defeat the Cats 85-66 on Friday night.

The Tigers booked their second grand final appearance in three years with the win, but it didn't look like they were headed to the AFL decider at halftime. Trailing Geelong 50-29, Hardwick accidentally let slip post-game that there was a strategic move he made that turned their fortunes around.

"The guys at halftime, we didn't look like it. I thought Geelong were all over us playing a terrific brand of footy. We made a couple of changes that worked," Hardwick told media.

"I shouldn't have said that should I?"

Hardwick had let a clue out, and Lloyd believes it involved Dustin Martin.

"I reckon Dusty Martin wasn't going great and the midfield was pretty poor," Lloyd said on the Sunday Footy Show.

"Where is Dusty? He charged forward as Dusty likes to do but when you're down on the scoreboard you can't do that.

"That is putting a lot of pressure on the backs."

Lloyd said there were obvious signs that Martin wasn't at his best. Having suffered a leg issue in a modest performance - by his standards - that included two goals and 22 possessions, in the midfield he was getting beat.

"Is this the intensity of a midfielder that needs to get his team back in the game? I'd say no," Lloyd said, reviewing the footage.

"Not good enough - it's a final."

But Lloyd showed how that changed form the very first bounce of the third quarter with Shane Edwards in and Martin moved out.

"They went from 19 inside 50s at halftime, to 19 in the third quarter alone, so that's the move I reckon he made and was critical at halftime," Lloyd explained.

Houli was put under the pump by the panel when asked if the Martin change was indeed what Hardwick had instructed at halftime to inspire the comeback, but the Tigers defender wasn't about to give any of their team's gameplan away.

Especially before they appear in the 2019 AFL grand final.

"I'm a very honest person and I actually would not have a clue. I just get told to stop as many goals as possible," Houli said.

Martin's match fitness for the grand final is sure to be a hot topic in the coming week, but Richmond would be buoyed by the efforts of their defence, led by Houli with 32 touches, which stood up against Geelong.

"To be 21 points down in a prelim final where you're not playing particularly well and for the guys to respond, it's where your leaders stand up and I thought our guys did a wonderful job of getting the game back looking like a Richmond game," Hardwick said post-game.

"It was a pleasing result against a very, very good football side."

https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/richmond-tigers-tactics-against-geelong-cats-dustin-martin-bachar-houli/b3d96e41-a82c-44cc-aa6a-622db69ee7f2

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2019, 02:42:41 PM »
I really wonder about Geelong.

Kelly will go home.
Ablett is getting bloody old.
Dangerfield and Selwood will be another year older.
They just seem to have cosmetic makeovers each year. Half their team seem to be ordinary role players from other clubs.

They have a coach who is too cute by half. If he didn't hate us before he certainly does now.
 
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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2019, 03:20:47 PM »
 Long may we reign, long may they suck #noflag4dangerflog... :shh
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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2019, 04:53:43 PM »
How do we combat the tag on Martin he needs support and there tall firwards

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #245 on: September 23, 2019, 05:02:11 PM »
Reckon Martin will play mainly forward and De Boer will go to Prestia or Edwards... or possibly Cotchin.. :shh
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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #246 on: September 23, 2019, 05:26:14 PM »
Think the key is cut the supply from the midfield for there forwards and win that battle.De Boer will get Martin we need to help him out and isolate De Boer one on one in the goal square.

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #247 on: September 23, 2019, 07:54:19 PM »
Coaches votes (Hardwick & C.Scott)

RICHMOND v GEELONG

9 Tom Lynch (RICH)
8 Tim Kelly (GEEL)
6 Dion Prestia (RICH)
5 Bachar Houli (RICH)
1 Jake Kolodjashnij (GEEL)
1 Joel Selwood (GEEL)




Gary Ayres Award leaderboard


13 Tim Taranto
11 Joel Selwood
10 Jamie Cripps
10 Toby Greene
10 Jeremy Howe
10 Stefan Martin
9 Shane Edwards
9 Nick Haynes
9 Tom Lynch
9 Dustin Martin
9 Luke Shuey
9 Zac Williams
8 Tim Kelly
8 Dion Prestia
7 Patrick Dangerfield
7 Jacob Hopper
6 Tom Hawkins
5 Bachar Houli
5 Jake Kolodjashnij
5 Scott Pendlebury

Bolded players are still in the hunt to win the award

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-23/aflca-gary-ayres-award-young-giant-takes-lead-in-wide-open-race

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #248 on: September 23, 2019, 11:32:16 PM »
You just know Chris Scott gave kelly 5 votes...

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #249 on: September 25, 2019, 02:06:46 PM »
Great week for poor old Paddy, loses another prelim, trolls Kane Cornes and gets burnt...

https://twitter.com/kanecornes/status/1176660531790221314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #250 on: September 25, 2019, 02:35:09 PM »
On one hand Dangerfield has a Brownlow and Cornes wasn’t exactly BOG but I guess premierships>brownlow

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #251 on: September 25, 2019, 02:58:43 PM »
Great week for poor old Paddy, loses another prelim, trolls Kane Cornes and gets burnt...

https://twitter.com/kanecornes/status/1176660531790221314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Will Chris Scott ever get over THAT prelim loss? (afl site)
« Reply #252 on: March 13, 2020, 03:12:57 AM »
LISTEN: Will he ever get over THAT prelim loss?

By Damian Barrett
afl.com.au
12 March 2020


IN Chris Scott's world, a missed opportunity is a lost opportunity.

Which is why he's still having difficulty in dealing with Geelong's 21-point half-time lead in last year's preliminary final against eventual premier Richmond.

In this excerpt from the In the Game podcast, Geelong coach Chris Scott tells Damian Barrett why he's 'not a big believer that you can make amends for lost opportunity'

Post that match, Scott said the loss would "take a long time to get over".

In an interview held late last month for In The Game with Damian Barrett, Scott said:

"I'm starting to lean towards (you) never (get over it). I'm not a big believer that you can make amends for lost opportunity. I mean, we won a premiership in 2011, but if we're playing in prelim finals through that period and just haven't been quite good enough.

"And, if we were good enough this year it wouldn't make up for last year. I mean, the reality is we were three-and-a-half goals up against the best team in the comp at half-time in a prelim final and couldn't get the job done.

"So I don't think it drives, well it certainly doesn't drive me anymore, and I suspect that doesn't really drive our players anymore as well."

In his nine seasons as Cats coach, Scott has only once missed the finals (2015), yet even that year produced 11 wins.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/381605/listen-will-he-ever-get-over-that-prelim-loss-

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #253 on: March 13, 2020, 10:34:48 AM »
Will find it much harder to get over when they don't make the finals this year. I know they are only practice games so far but there were some red flags evident so could be a difficult
year for them, not that I really care. :snidegrin

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Re: Richmond vs Geelong @ the M.C.G. - 2nd Preliminary Final, 2019
« Reply #254 on: March 13, 2020, 08:41:33 PM »
I never used to hate Geelong but I do know because of Chris Scott.
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