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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #210 on: October 29, 2020, 06:19:04 AM »
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/government-rejected-requests-for-ppe-from-hundreds-of-aged-care-homes-at-peak-of-pandemic-20201028-p569a7.html



More than 1500 aged care homes had their requests for masks, gloves and gowns from the National Medical Stockpile knocked back as as the pandemic spread around the country and into homes where it killed hundreds of residents.


All facilities that had COVID-19 outbreaks received personal protective equipment from the stockpile when requested. But a union representing aged care workers said outbreaks could have been prevented if the government had provided that equipment earlier.


In August, a staff member from Ashfield Baptist Homes residential care facility tested positive for COVID-19 and had unknowingly attended work while infectious. But as the ABC reported at the time, all staff at the facility had been wearing full personal protective equipment. No other staff or patients contracted the disease.
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #211 on: October 31, 2020, 09:42:32 AM »
“ There have been 216 COVID-19 outbreaks in aged care facilities in Australia, and the bulk of those have been in Victoria. To date, 683 aged care residents have died with COVID-19.”

Why have the bulk of the cases been in Victoria 1965?
Or does bias not allow your head to come up for breath from the sand box?
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #212 on: October 31, 2020, 05:46:35 PM »
“ There have been 216 COVID-19 outbreaks in aged care facilities in Australia, and the bulk of those have been in Victoria. To date, 683 aged care residents have died with COVID-19.”

Why have the bulk of the cases been in Victoria 1965?
Or does bias not allow your head to come up for breath from the sand box?


FFS you need to read my posts.
Again...
Yes someone in the Victorian government made the decision to use a dodgy Security Co to staff the Hotel Quarantine program and yes Dan Andrews is ultimately responsible. A fact that he has acknowledged plenty of times.
But if people want to bray for his blood they should do the same with Colbeck and Morrison. If the Aged care homes had been better regulated and with proper staffing ratios then most of 683 lives lost would have been saved. FACT. And sitting behind their decisions is the whole Liberal party free market ideology.


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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #213 on: November 03, 2020, 10:13:34 PM »
Baying for blood! WTF! Morrison will go down as one of the greatest PMs in history for his management of Covid in Aust

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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #214 on: November 04, 2020, 12:22:13 AM »
Yeah but the evil capitalist federal government is to blame in the one state out of eight where it all went wrong.....#istandwithdanderpderpderp :shh
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #215 on: November 04, 2020, 09:00:52 PM »
“ There have been 216 COVID-19 outbreaks in aged care facilities in Australia, and the bulk of those have been in Victoria. To date, 683 aged care residents have died with COVID-19.”

Why have the bulk of the cases been in Victoria 1965?
Or does bias not allow your head to come up for breath from the sand box?


FFS you need to read my posts.
Again...
Yes someone in the Victorian government made the decision to use a dodgy Security Co to staff the Hotel Quarantine program and yes Dan Andrews is ultimately responsible. A fact that he has acknowledged plenty of times.
But if people want to bray for his blood they should do the same with Colbeck and Morrison. If the Aged care homes had been better regulated and with proper staffing ratios then most of 683 lives lost would have been saved. FACT. And sitting behind their decisions is the whole Liberal party free market ideology.




Look at the e mail from the Govt’s own Dept of Jobs detailing the instruction had come from the Premiers office - we know it wasn’t the DPC because the head of that department resigned and made it clear he had no idea that decision had been made.
Read the transcript of the texts between head of DPC and Commissioner of Police for proof

So, either it was the Premiers chief of staff or the Premier himself who made that call ... just hours earlier at the National Cabinet all agreed to ADF to administer a national program.

The buck stops with the Premier because he either directly himself or directly through his chief of staff made that call - against National Cabinet, against his Commissioner of Police and without consulting his most senior bureaucrat.

It doesn’t matter what party you hold an alliance with - dangerous and damning behaviour by a man who care not less the deadly consequences of his flippant actions
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #216 on: November 16, 2020, 09:47:53 AM »

Hmmm

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/nov/16/aged-care-residents-found-to-be-at-greater-risk-in-for-profit-homes-than-government-run-ones

Study reveals government-run homes dramatically outperform those run by for-profit operators and not-for-profit groups

Aged care residents are up to twice as likely to suffer from serious injuries in a for-profit home as in a government-run one, a study released on Sunday by the royal commission investigating the sector has found.

The study, described by the aged care royal commission as the most comprehensive ever undertaken, paints a grim picture of the state of private-sector aged care, revealing that government-run homes dramatically outperform those run by both for-profit operators and not-for-profit groups.
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« Reply #217 on: November 16, 2020, 10:02:51 AM »
And...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32206-6/fulltext

State-run aged care—which operates under the Safe Patient Care Act 2015, which enshrines in law minimum numbers of nurses and midwives to care for patients—has recorded very few COVID-19 cases and no deaths. Private facilities have no such quotas.
“Private providers don't necessarily care about aged care—they care about making a profit”, said Sarah Russell, public health researcher and aged care advocate. “What is aged care for? Is it because older people are a great cohort to make money off? Why are we locking people down and locking relatives out? What type of life is that for them?”
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #218 on: November 17, 2020, 02:03:29 PM »
The SA outbreak shows once again this virus is never gone without a vaccine. Let's hope Adelaide's smaller population and low density makes it 'easier' to contain it.
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #219 on: November 17, 2020, 03:09:02 PM »
The SA outbreak shows once again this virus is never gone without a vaccine. Let's hope Adelaide's smaller population and low density makes it 'easier' to contain it.

Definitely the fault of the Andrews government somehow...







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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #220 on: November 17, 2020, 03:28:15 PM »
The SA outbreak shows once again this virus is never gone without a vaccine. Let's hope Adelaide's smaller population and low density makes it 'easier' to contain it.

Also, shows how quickly it can spread in this case due to the the actions of 1 person
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #221 on: November 18, 2020, 01:31:58 PM »
 :gobdrop

Just read that South Aust is going into full lockdown for 6 days

Everything closed

Exercise won't even be allowed

Masks now compulsory

Their Premier calling it a 2nd wave

It started at hotel quarantine

And this is the "you can't be serious" part

A person who works at the Stamford got the virus off a person who works part time at a Pizza place. The part time worker was also working at the Quarantine hotel where this cluster started  :facepalm

The CHO in SA was asked about that and said " well in hindsight...."

Seriously, after what happened in Victoria have people learnt nothing?
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #222 on: November 18, 2020, 03:30:12 PM »
:gobdrop

Just read that South Aust is going into full lockdown for 6 days

Everything closed

Exercise won't even be allowed

Masks now compulsory

Their Premier calling it a 2nd wave

It started at hotel quarantine

And this is the "you can't be serious" part

A person who works at the Stamford got the virus off a person who works part time at a Pizza place. The part time worker was also working at the Quarantine hotel where this cluster started  :facepalm

The CHO in SA was asked about that and said " well in hindsight...."

Seriously, after what happened in Victoria have people learnt nothing?
A Fed review of SA's quarantine system gave it in fact a "gold star".

South Australia's Chief Public Health Officer, Professor Nicola Spurrier, says the state's hotel quarantine system received a ''gold star'' in a national review a few weeks ago by former top federal Health Department public servant Jane Halton.

https://www.afr.com/companies/healthcare-and-fitness/gold-star-is-cold-comfort-in-hotel-quarantine-outbreak-20201116-p56ezt

A reminder that this virus makes the rules.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-18/sa-ordered-into-major-lockdowns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/12894666

Not knocking the SA state government's decision to go straight into a stage-4 lockdown to nip this outbreak in the bud as quickly as possible (learning from our experience) but shouldn't they be doing it for 14-days as that covers the typical average incubation period of the virus?
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #223 on: November 18, 2020, 05:31:00 PM »
They are doing 6 days of full lockdown

And then the 8 days there will restrictions but the hope is some of the more severe may get lifted

6 + 8 = 14

From what I read everything is dependant on the number of cases over the next few days
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Re: Caronavirus - COVID 19
« Reply #224 on: November 18, 2020, 05:34:33 PM »
They are doing 6 days of full lockdown

And then the 8 days there will restrictions but the hope is some of the more severe may get lifted

6 + 8 = 14

From what I read everything is dependant on the number of cases over the next few days


Sounds like they are playing politics to me.  Even the name "circuit breaker" sounds like they are trying to avoid the "lockdown" tag.
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