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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2020, 06:56:48 PM »
Won't know the result of the appeal until tomorrow given it is a written submission.

Richmond believes the behind the goal vision will exonerate both Grimes & Vlastuin.

source: Mark Stevens Ch7 news.

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2020, 08:05:47 PM »
If they get off, do they get an apology from the MRO/AFL?

Pretty average allegation for 2 very tough and courageous footballers IMO

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2020, 08:28:06 PM »
It really depends on how they define staging. Both free kicks were there imo. You see stringer with his hand in grimes back push off and you see Bellchambers flinging arm connect with vlastuin high.

In vlastuin case I don’t think it’s an unnatural reaction to fling your head back when a 100kg object connects with you moving in the opposite direction.

In grimes case while it looked like a fair bit of mayo on there I don’t know how you can prove it one way or the other.

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2020, 11:07:27 AM »
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good...."

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FJ is the only one that makes sense.

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2020, 11:51:40 AM »
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his
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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2020, 12:22:03 PM »
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his

This should happen today - what that proves is that Shocking just goes with what the media vibe is on the day.  Not professional enough to actually investigate it properly.  He should be the first one out the door with the restructure.  Only problem is that Brad Scott is the flog likely to replace him

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2020, 01:55:51 PM »
Both been cleared

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/801534/grimes-vlastuin-win-tribunal-appeals

And with that I'd suggest Hocking relieve the MRO of his duties immediately

And after that Gil relieve Hocking of his

This should happen today - what that proves is that Shocking just goes with what the media vibe is on the day.  Not professional enough to actually investigate it properly.  He should be the first one out the door with the restructure.  Only problem is that Brad Scott is the flog likely to replace him

They moved Brad Scott to AFLVictoria main man in the latest restructure

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2020, 01:57:36 PM »
I can't post it from my phone but Wayne Henwood's clear explanation for why Floss' case wasn't staging was excellent. 

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2020, 11:31:11 PM »
Caro wondered who got into Christen's ear and whether he had the down the ground vision before making his decision. Sam McClure replied that would be Hocking as he ticks off all the MRO decisions. Caro then said Hocking should be the MRO if that is happening.

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2020, 12:30:22 PM »
Caro wondered who got into Christen's ear and whether he had the down the ground vision before making his decision. Sam McClure replied that would be Hocking as he ticks off all the MRO decisions. Caro then said Hocking should be the MRO if that is happening.

Of course it was Shocking.  Shocking would have reacted to the media criticism without investigating it properly and told Christen to come down hard.  Shocking needs to go.  Football as a whole has gone backwards under him and fairly significantly.  Fans are less engaged, players are over the intense scrunity, media are allowed to run around unchecked, umpiring is worse, the MRO is a joke, clubs are more reliant on handouts than ever and GWS and GC are no closer to success despite being given millions of dollars in handouts and the best players for close to 10 years now.

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Re: Grimes & Vlastuin fined for staging
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2020, 12:49:26 PM »
Christensen and Hocking are clearly biased and should be replaced. I bet Geelong or Collingwood don’t get the same crap as us