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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2520 on: April 17, 2023, 08:52:15 PM »
C) the Richmond new tribunal rule
Give Richmond player 4 weeks and other sides 2 weeks for the same offence except Geelong and Collingwood , no charge

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« Reply #2521 on: April 18, 2023, 10:28:15 PM »
Saw this on twitter tonight:

"So far this year, Richmond has given away nine 50m penalties. Since 2018, they've given away 55 more 50m penalties than any other team."

- Daniel Hoyne

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« Reply #2522 on: April 18, 2023, 10:54:51 PM »
stuffing hell that's bad.

Amazed we won two flags in there.

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« Reply #2523 on: April 19, 2023, 06:18:52 PM »
Saw this on twitter tonight:

"So far this year, Richmond has given away nine 50m penalties. Since 2018, they've given away 55 more 50m penalties than any other team."

- Daniel Hoyne

 :help

“There’s a lot of talk about the undisciplined Tigers,” Hoyne told SEN’s Sportsday.

“So far this year they’ve given away nine 50-metre penalties which is the most of any team in the competition. But since 2018, they have committed 55 more 50-metre penalties than any other team in the competition.

“They gave away the most (50-metre penalties) in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2023.

“It is a theme that has been with Richmond now for the best part of six years.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/04/18/the-incredible-stat-that-highlights-richmonds-ill-discipline-issues/

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« Reply #2524 on: April 21, 2023, 11:39:03 PM »
Lynch would kick a 100 every year if he got frees out of nowhere like this.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1649363786070110210
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« Reply #2525 on: April 22, 2023, 10:20:47 AM »
Saw that and was disgusted, thought the same re: Lynch

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« Reply #2526 on: April 22, 2023, 09:04:08 PM »
The AFL/MRO's interpretations are once again all over the shop. Now I don't have an issue with Brayshaw getting off for the reasons he was let off. However, the AFL/MRO have repeatedly said over and over that if you choose to bump, and for whatever reason the opponent is hit in the head and is concussed, you will get suspended. They then just can't come out with tonight ...

Match Review Officer Michael Christian stated Brayshaw's actions were fair given the context of the bump.

"It is the view of the MRO that it was reasonable for Brayshaw to contest the ball in the way that he did and that contact was caused by circumstances outside the control of Brayshaw."


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/04/22/liberatores-head-knock-to-force-him-out-of-round-7/

Marlion got a week instantly for a shepherd that no Hawthorn player took issue with, and Dylan Moore played the rest of the game out and had no concussion :huh.


To add to the confusion, we've now got Garry Lyon and co. saying Neale contributed to the Cal Ward's 'dangerous' tackle of him to avoid being pinged for HTB and get a free himself.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1649695805371187200

It would help if the umps didn't take forever to make a decision which contributes to these sling tackles.

What an absolute mess! :-\
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« Reply #2527 on: April 23, 2023, 03:30:04 AM »
Hardwick: Umpire interpretation contributing to dangerous tackles

Andrew Wu
The Age
23 April 2023


Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says umpires’ interpretation of prior opportunity is contributing to the spate of injuries and suspensions from dangerous tackles, as Fremantle star Andrew Brayshaw avoided suspension for his involvement in a clash that left Tom Liberatore concussed.

Hardwick received support on Saturday night from suspended Collingwood vice-captain Taylor Adams after an incident where Greater Western Sydney veteran Callan Ward was penalised for bringing down Brisbane’s Lachie Neale in a tackle.

“Blow the whistle earlier,” Adams tweeted.

Former Melbourne legend Garry Lyon was critical of Neale, who did not appear to fight against Ward’s tackle and allowed himself to be brought down.

“This is one we can look at, I think Lachie Neale contributed to that,” Lyon said on the Fox Footy broadcast. “This is where we don’t want to get to.”

Hardwick put the umpires’ interpretation on the agenda on Saturday morning. While he welcomed the memo sent to clubs by the AFL explaining what constituted a dangerous tackle, he said players, coaches and umpires could do more to reduce the risk of injury.

Though ultimate responsibility rested with players, Hardwick said coaches contributed by asking players to take on the tackle, and umpires are letting play go on.

“It’s like a bigger conversation needs to be had because the reality is with the prior opportunity rule and as coaches we teach our players to take on the tackle and the umpire’s holding their whistle because of a fear of creating a stoppage,” Hardwick said.

“It’s like there’s a combination of factors that we need to sit down and figure out, if that makes sense.

“The players absolutely have got a responsibility to look after the head when they tackle, but there’s other factors at play.

“One, coaching for us, and I think also the administration from the AFL with regards to holding the whistle, I think, needs to be a little bit clarified also.

“We don’t want players getting hurt, but we want to make sure we understand the players have got a really, really tough job to do.”

Eight players were suspended for a combined total of 13 games in the first five rounds for dangerous tackles.

There is sympathy for players, who are taught to pin the arms in tackles to prevent their opponent from disposing of the ball but that action is one of the factors that constitutes rough conduct if the ball-carrier is brought to ground.

If umpires stop play earlier, it may minimise the need for players to complete the tackle, thereby reducing the risk of injury, but would also lead to more stoppages, which can lead to congestion and slow play.

https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/afl/combination-of-factors-how-holding-the-ball-ruling-is-leading-to-dangerous-tackles-20230422-p5d2hq.html

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2528 on: April 23, 2023, 04:11:57 AM »
After watching Geelong throw the ball last night with no penalty plus no whistle on tackles allowing Geelong to have many dubiouscdisposals, it seems the game and umpiring is set up for them.

Sydney must have been infuriated.

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« Reply #2529 on: April 23, 2023, 12:01:25 PM »
After watching Geelong throw the ball last night with no penalty plus no whistle on tackles allowing Geelong to have many dubiouscdisposals, it seems the game and umpiring is set up for them.

Sydney must have been infuriated.
Yep, I noticed the throws last night too.  Geelong take on a tackler (should be called HTB right there, just ask Dusty about that) & then give a two handed under armed throw/shovel out to a team mate in the clear.  Seems to work every time!   
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« Reply #2530 on: April 24, 2023, 01:18:24 AM »
The Scraggers threw quite a few against us too. So much for four umpires  ::).

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« Reply #2531 on: April 26, 2023, 03:44:27 PM »
4 umps and none of them could see this blatant rugby throw ::). Looked like it was out of bounds too.

https://twitter.com/outbreezyWC/status/1650458356241530880

Add Jordan's one-handed "handpass" as well.
https://twitter.com/RFC_Centre/status/1650698069162471424

Both lead to Melbourne goals :thumbsdown.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2532 on: April 28, 2023, 04:22:20 AM »
Graham Cornes fears Victorian bias has contributed to Port Adelaide and Adelaide conceding the most free-kicks in the AFL this year.

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1651475011264483328

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« Reply #2533 on: April 30, 2023, 05:43:43 AM »
"Pay another one, pay another one."

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1652256575866945536

Clearly you don't mess with Razor Ray regarding dissent.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2534 on: April 30, 2023, 10:14:19 AM »
The Scraggers threw quite a few against us too. So much for four umpires  ::).

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https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1650093230472728577

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/did-it-all-night-return-of-dogs-cheeky-handball-club-exposed/news-story/343f1109d33b0e0065e0db43f58a4fc4


Been going on for years and is just wrong that they aren't frees against. The AFL are a joke!