State of Umpiring [merged]

[Chuck17]

Making the game incredibly hard to watch

[one-eyed]

This bloke umpires at lower levels and has gone through every free kick decision in the Adelaide game.

He found around 12 incorrect decisions of which 10 of them went against us  .

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A lot of my fellow Tigers weren’t happy with the free kick count on Saturday so let’s go through them. I am a Tiger nuffy and I leapt of the couch a few times but I’m also a 300 + game local field umpire. Let’s break them down systematically in a thread.

In my opinion we finish ✅=44 ❌=12. That’s a 78.5% good call rate. I think minimum standard in 80-85%.

Starts here: https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515851146732048388
Continues here: https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515916659491442691


Incorrect decisions against Richmond

1. Looks like the umpire was going to pay a mark and pings Short 50 for laying a tackle. Doesn’t appear to have gone 15m. A lot to unpack here and I’m not even sure if I’ve got it right. Correct call might be in the back but not a 50?
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515871827750318084

2. Don’t think this is a mark to Himmelberg. Doesn’t have “control”. You can grip the ball in both hands for short time and have “control”. Juggles this all the way to the grass.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515875542481866752

3. The 50 against Rioli and Vlastuin is contentious. Rioli drops the ball but I don’t believe he does it on purpose or to delay the play. The umpire says “straight away” and I think the two players legitimately give the ball back “straight away”. I think the 50 was harsh.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515918158640521223

4. Berry should be holding the ball. One cue umpires are asked to look for in 2022 is was the player “settled” and he was so he’s had prior. He then sits on the ball / drags it in so a ❌ and then a ✅
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515919812580417544

5. This should be holding the ball. Has prior. Lynch’s action constitutes a tackle. No legal disposal.
Actually leads to a goal anyway to Baker but this is a miss.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515924608175599619

6. I’m disagreeing with the ump here. Parker’s only ducking action is to get the ball. He doesn’t then deliberately stay down and drive forward. He doesn’t have an opportunity to get his head back up. I think it should be a free kick to Parker or a ball up at the least.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515932955142914048

7. I’m paying holding the ball here. Raschelli (sic) doesn’t have prior before he’s tackled but his arms are free and he elects not to handball for a good while. I’ll expect some disagreement but I would pay htb.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515941276570427401

8. In the spirit of what had been paid all game I think you pay the hold to Tarrant here. Even if it wasn’t paid all day it’s a free kick!
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515944500841000961

9. Two holding the balls not paid here. First obvious. In the second one Keays fends, so must dispose immediately. He has his back to us so there’s a chance that he does a legitimate handball but at the angle the ball drops to the ground it “suggests” no.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515951751823695873

10. Two Crows “share” a mark.
https://twitter.com/ReeveMcLennan/status/1515950462180028418

[one-eyed]

"The AFL declined to comment on the free kick count from the game when contacted on Sunday."


Just how bad are Tigers’ free kick numbers?

Richmond received the fewest free kicks of any team last year and the numbers aren’t great to start 2022. See just how bad the figures are.

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2022-all-the-latest-from-the-mro-as-trent-cotchin-fined-for-kicking-taylor-walker/news-story/e3006ef112e78176ea906e3f84d76602

[one-eyed]

Look for the usual AFL overreaction this week  .

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"It's been accepted in the game for far too long."

AFL general manager of football Brad Scott on dissent towards umpires.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/745230

[mightytiges]

"It's been accepted in the game for far too long."

AFL general manager of football Brad Scott on dissent towards umpires.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/745230

[mightytiges]

Agree with what Jack said on AFL 360 tonight. Just putting your arms out is no big deal and worst of all this is causing more angst towards umpires not less especially as the public weren't given a heads up.

The AFL powers that be have caused this mess but instead of admitting they are wrong they are once again doubling down and thumbing their nose at the public and players. I'm expecting this weekend to be an absolute farce and it won't be a surprise when it's us who will cop the worst of the ridiculous 50s  .   

[camboon]

It is no longer our game as it’s become some type of political social engineering department of government instead of the game of the people.
Football is not always the focus, it’s all this crap that is imposed on the general supporter by people who have an agenda that is no the same as the greater majority

I suspect Scott is Hocking mark 2 who is a puppet of the faceless dictators.
Who votes for these dictators anyway?

[Chuck17]

It is no longer our game as it’s become some type of political social engineering department of government instead of the game of the people.
Football is not always the focus, it’s all this crap that is imposed on the general supporter by people who have an agenda that is no the same as the greater majority

Great post

[Tigeritis™©®]

It is no longer our game as it’s become some type of political social engineering department of government instead of the game of the people.
Football is not always the focus, it’s all this crap that is imposed on the general supporter by people who have an agenda that is no the same as the greater majority

Great post

x2 

[Tigeritis™©®]

"It's been accepted in the game for far too long."

AFL general manager of football Brad Scott on dissent towards umpires.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/745230

Excellent work MT 

[Tiger Khosh]

"It's been accepted in the game for far too long."

AFL general manager of football Brad Scott on dissent towards umpires.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/745230

Excellent work MT 

https://twitter.com/WillSchofield/status/1516689717852794881?s=20&t=4FPAkXlKZWo4yMgolWRo0g

 

[MintOnLamb]

Do umpires have a review panel where they go through their game and are advised of their, (how can you say it in a PC manner) decisions??
Maybe the public should be kept in the loop after game reviews.
There could even be an umpiring decision scoring system?? An umpire Brownlow equivalent??  Who knows?

Everyone is tip toeing around the issue because of the abuse filtration to amateur and junior games.
 
I think umpires at AFL level should be accountable, but not abused.

AFL is a huge betting industry and where money is involved people do get serious and umpires should be judged and reprimanded accordingly ( but not during the game)

Amateur level umpires should be exempt from attack and abuse at all times.
How to police it is the problem.

[one-eyed]

Eddie wants 9 umpires per game (including an emergency) that will each remain located at a different part of the ground to officiate.

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"Stop giving them an impossible game to umpire."

Eddie's radical plan to fix the umpiring crisis and revolutionise how the game is officiated.

Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1516765505654341642

[yandb]

It is hard enough for 3 umpires to be consistent so 9 would be a nightmare.

[WilliamPowell]

Do umpires have a review panel where they go through their game and are advised of their, (how can you say it in a PC manner) decisions??
Maybe the public should be kept in the loop after game reviews.
There could even be an umpiring decision scoring system?? An umpire Brownlow equivalent??  Who knows?

Everyone is tip toeing around the issue because of the abuse filtration to amateur and junior games.
 
I think umpires at AFL level should be accountable, but not abused.

AFL is a huge betting industry and where money is involved people do get serious and umpires should be judged and reprimanded accordingly ( but not during the game)

Amateur level umpires should be exempt from attack and abuse at all times.
How to police it is the problem.

Answer to your question is yes.

There is an advisor at each game who writes / reviews as the game. They then do match reviews like clubs do. Pretty sure it happens on a Monday