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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #450 on: October 27, 2021, 01:58:17 PM »
I got a feeling Amiss might be available at our pick have to grab him.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #451 on: October 27, 2021, 02:03:43 PM »
Foxfooty.com.au, with the help of Champion Data, assesses every club’s biggest list need and the 2021 draftees that could assist plugging the hole.

RICHMOND

Picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83

List needs: Of all the pressing concerns, the Tigers’ on-ball brigade should be addressed first up at this year’s draft, especially considering Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Kane Lambert will all be over 30 by Round 1 next season. The Tigers ranked 16th for contested possession differential and 18th for clearance differential in 2021.

Who the club should target with its first pick:Ben Hobbs would make a lot of sense. The gun inside midfielder, who averaged 29.2 disposals and 6.2 clearances from his five full NAB League games this year, has already been heavily linked to the Tigers. Whether he’s still on the board by then, though, is uncertain, with Gold Coast, Adelaide and Hawthorn to also consider him. Northern Knights’ Josh Ward and Subiaco’s Neil Erasmus, who both averaged big disposal numbers in their respective Under 19 state competitions this season, should also be around the Pick 7 mark.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-order-2021-the-player-every-afl-club-should-take-with-first-pick-date-news/news-story/f423fba03442b919e0104b3f929795e1

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #452 on: October 27, 2021, 02:21:17 PM »
Would definitely look at Roberts using a pick in the 20's. Is a great runner across the ground and does have some toe when needed. This year during a game he was clocked at 36.0KM/H which is top end speed.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #453 on: October 27, 2021, 02:23:20 PM »
Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (October 30)

nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.

1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder               183cm/72kg   3/1/03    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis .......... Midfielder                183cm/77kg 21/6/03    South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender    204cm/75kg 19/7/03    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder               189cm/82kg  26/4/03   Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder                183cm/80kg 16/9/03    Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Ward ........................ Midfielder                181cm/79kg  15/8/03   Northern Knights/Vic Metro
7. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender           195cm/84kg  4/4/03    Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
8. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder   180cm/78kg 11/4/03    Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+1)
9. Mac Andrew ..................... Ruckman                 200cm/70kg  12/4/03   Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
10. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward   188cm/80kg  2/12/03    Subiaco/Western Australia
11. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward            195cm/83kg  31/7/03    East Perth/Western Australia
12. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera .. Midfielder              187cm/69kg  22/2/03    Glenelg/South Australia (+2)
13. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg  7/1/03    Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+2)
14. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder               192cm/80kg  16/3/03    Subiaco/Western Australia (-1)
15. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward   185cm/71kg  20/1/03    South Adelaide/South Australia (-3)
16. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder               181cm/77kg  27/1/03    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
17. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder               190cm/79kg   2/6/03     Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+1)
18. Sam Butler ....................  Midfielder/forward   184cm/73kg  10/2/03    Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (+1)
19. Darcy Wilmot .................  Defender                183cm/75kg  31/12/03  Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+3)
20. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward                 176cm/74kg  23/11/03   South Fremantle/Western Australia (+4)
21. Jacob Van Rooyen ........... Forward/defender    194cm/88kg  16/4/03    Claremont/Western Australia
22. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender  186cm/83kg 27/4/03    Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (-2)
23. Tom Brown ....................  Defender                186cm/71kg  30/7/03    Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
24. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman                204cm/90kg  24/4/03    Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (+2)
25. Zac Taylor ...................... Midfielder               180cm/74kg   31/1/03     Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+3)
26. Josh Fahey ..................... Defender                186cm/76kg  11/11/03   GWS Academy (new)
27. Matthew Roberts ............. Midfielder/forward   183cm/81kg  31/7/03    South Adelaide/South Australia (-10)
28. Blake Howes .................. Forward/midfielder   190cm/79kg   7/4/03     Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
29. Marcus Windhager ........... Midfielder               183cm/82kg  16/5/03    Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-4)
30. Mitchito Owens ................ Midfielder               190cm/85kg  24/9/03    Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (new)
31. Connor MacDonald ........... Midfielder               184cm/77kg  13/1/03    Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (new)
32. Mitch Knevitt ................... Midfielder               193cm/81kg   8/1/03     Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (new)
33. Rhett Bazzo ................. Key defender/forward 195cm/81kg  17/10/03   Swan Districts/Western Australia (-3)
34. Jack Williams .................. Key forward            195cm/91kg  1/12/03    East Fremantle/Western Australia (-7)
35. Judson Clarke .................. Forward                 180cm/70kg  17/10/01   Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (new)

Dropped out of Top 35:
Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder               181cm/70kg    3/5/03     North Adelaide/South Australia (-5)

Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/685788/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #454 on: October 27, 2021, 06:07:30 PM »
Anyone seen and rate this kid? He's got wheels to burn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzRRl1k45Y

Ronald Fejo's stats:

HGT: 178cm
WGT: 70kg
DOB: 16/12/2001 (19 years old).

West Adelaide seniors: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=sanfl&season=2021

West Adelaide ressies: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=reserves&season=2021

NAB League - Nth Territory: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/ronald-fejo/

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #455 on: October 27, 2021, 06:20:22 PM »
I disagree with foxfooty.  We are refreshing the entire list for 5+ years from now. Take the best available. This draft will make or break the 2026 team not 2022.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #456 on: October 27, 2021, 07:16:23 PM »
Will St Kilda be forced to trade pick 9 to try and split it for picks in the teens/twenties for their academy kids?

RIVALS PONDERING PINCHING SAINTS ACADEMY GUN

St Kilda’s top academy prospect could be pinched from the Saints’ grasp, with clubs considering whether to take gun running midfielder Mitchito Owens inside the top 20, reports the Herald Sun.

Owens has surged into first-round calculations after a terrific back-end to his 2021 campaign, averaging 23.3 disposals, 5.7 marks and 3/7 inside 50s from his final three NAB League games.

The Herald Sun reported rival clubs that hold draft picks in the late teens were considering taking Owens — a speedy and agile 190cm midfielder.

Brisbane, Richmond, Sydney and Melbourne hold the last five picks of the first round.

St Kilda holds Picks 9, 62, 66 and 67 in this year’s a draft. If it doesn’t accumulate more draft picks and points, the club would go into deficit if a bid on Owens came outside the top 20 but before Pick 50. However the Saints have a full complement of future-round picks to work with in order to trade back into this year’s draft.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-mitchito-owens-st-kilda-academy-tex-wanganeen-essendon-port-adelaide-fatherson/news-story/1f6febbbb5d464996604d6529d7a2ec0

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #457 on: October 27, 2021, 07:27:34 PM »
According to Callum Twomey & Nat Edwards on their AFL podcast:

Rhett Bazzo - likely to go inside 2nd round between picks 20-40.

Connor MacDonald - clubs inside pick 30 looking at him. In and under player but can also win it on the outside.

Judson Clarke - Kicked 5 goals for Vic Country. Will start his AFL career as a half-forward. Potential 2nd rounder.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/685929/the-crafty-left-foot-forward-on-the-radar-clubs-eye-wa-swingman

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #458 on: October 27, 2021, 09:34:18 PM »
From Smythe .... one of BF's draft watchers:

If Gibcus makes it to Richmond's first pick he would come into consideration, but not top priority or best available, as for Butler and Sonsie I don’t think Richmond are interested, Howes they like, and Murley would be a great get for anyone.

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IMO, and I share this opinion with others, Butler does not have great disposal and Sonsie is a one way runner with injury history, granted they can both be fixed but there would be much better options out there who they have said, chase, tackle, pressure and have sound disposal and decision making skills with a look to getting a ball winning mid then getting players to develop in areas of need, that being a young KPF and possibly a defender.

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As I mentioned earlier if Gibcus was there at our first he would come into consideration but would not be best available or top priority……to simplify, they want a mid and they like Hobbs, with that second pick it will be best available or developable KPP, they want to rejuvenate the spine and have it solid enough for in a few years time.

They have brought in Tarrant not only for coverage but to help teach Miller to take over from him, they need another young def and at the same time they need a kpf to groom to take over from Jack, currently….no one, it was going to be CCJ, Nyuon is coming along nicely down back as an intercepting def in the grimes mold, so the priority is Kpf, and ball winning mids.

They have a plethora of outside and balanced mids but need a clearance winning bull to work alongside RCD in extracting the ball.

Sonsie can do that, but is a one way runner.

Butler, whilst he is a mid/fwd, that role is similar to Titch Edwards, and that player needs pure skills and decision making with effective ball use, butler does not have that, he is more of a very quick ball winner but blasts away.

Richmond could be interested in them, and I’m not saying they shouldn’t be, but I don’t see, given their recent recruiting process, why they would be.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72758741

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #459 on: October 28, 2021, 12:31:09 AM »
Yeah that clown also has us trading our three second rounders to the Dawks for their second rounder and future second.... :joker
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FJ is the only one that makes sense.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #460 on: October 28, 2021, 02:41:22 AM »
Prospects, rankings, draft range, Tyler Sonsie, Matthew Roberts, Arlo Draper, Rhett Bazzo

Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
October 28th, 2021


Some might’ve slid from first-round contention, while some have bolted into the top-10 mix.

And then there’s the wildcard prospects.

Foxfooty.com.au profiles 10 players from this year’s AFL draft class that clubs believe have a wide draft range.

Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)

The 181cm on-baller possesses talent that warrants a top-five selection, but his inconsistency due to injury and lack of continuity this year has seen him slide down many club draft boards. A midfielder with a high footy IQ, strength at the contest, flair and class on the outside, Sonsie can swing the momentum of a match promptly. Some clubs, though, appear hesitant to use an early pick on him.

Draft Range: 10-30


Rhett Bazzo (Swan Districts/WA)

There’s several gun key-position prospects out of WA this year – and Bazzo is one of them. However clubs and draft-watchers were perplexed this season as to why he played a lot of school footy and WAFL colts games earlier in the season as a key forward, despite being widely viewed as a tall defender that can intercept the ball. The 195cm prospect starred late in the year for his state, finishing with 18 disposals and 10 marks in a game against South Australia. There are some question marks on how he defends in one-on-one contests, but his ability to read the ball is unquestionable.

Draft Range: 20-40


Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide/SA)

He was good enough to win a spot in his SANFL club’s league team late in the season, but there was a chasm between his league and Under 18s output. The 183cm midfielder, who has good endurance, disposal skills and a developing inside-outside balance, blitzed his first three Under 18s games, kicking five goals and averaging 32.0 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.7 tackles, 7.7 inside 50s and 6.3 clearances. Roberts then managed seven league games, booting six goals – two of them in a preliminary final – and averaging 11.1 disposals. He has the potential to play senior footy in 2022 and would be a safe pick for most clubs, but ultimately what you see is what you get with Roberts and there’s a question mark over his athleticism.

Draft Range: 15-35


Arlo Draper (South Adelaide/SA)

Draper has drawn comparisons to 2020 Essendon draftee Archie Perkins, not just for his on-field ability to win contested possessions and hit the scoreboard, but also for his laid-back approach to footy and life. After breaking into the SA side two years ago as a mid-sized backman, the 186cm prospect was pushed into the midfield and forward line and played across all three SANFL competitions this year. AFL draft guru Kevin Sheehan told SEN SA Draper has “some exciting attributes and mercurial type of ability”. But some clubs are wary of Draper’s aerobic capacity, hence they see him more as a half-forward or half-back rather than a midfielder.

Draft Range: 15-30


Mitch Knevitt (Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)

There’s a lot of upside in Knevitt, which has seen him become an outside chance to be taken in this year’s first round. A tall inside midfielder at 194cm with a strong appetite to win contested ball, Knevitt won the Geelong Falcons’ best and fairest this year after averaging 24.3 touches from his nine NAB League games. His final three games were particularly eye-catching, averaging 30.3 disposals, 6.6 tackles, 6.3 marks and 6.0 inside 50s. Knevitt does need to improve his kicking efficiency, though.

Draft Range: 20-35


Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont/WA)

A genuine utility at 193cm, Van Rooyen has been played at both ends of the field this season – and thrived. He starred at WAFL colts level, booting 34.14 from nine games – an average of nearly four goals per outing. But Van Rooyen was just as impressive when he was swung into defence, especially against South Australia at national championships level. Will be in the mix for selection in the first round.

Draft Range: 15-30


Josh Goater (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)

An athletic and powerful 190cm on-baller with explosiveness and clean hands, Goater looms as a fan favourite at AFL level, no matter which club picks him up. Goater is strong at the contest yet just as capable on the outside, highlighted by his strong finish to the NAB League season where he played – and impressed – as an intercept defender, averaging 30.5 disposals, 4.0 intercept marks and 8.5 intercept possessions from his final two games. With so much upside, Goater is a player that could be on the cusp of the top 10 – the Dockers and Eagles might look at him, considering his dad David was from WA and played WAFL footy for East Perth – or the end of the first round come draft night.

Draft Range: 8-20


Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/WA)

The tall midfielder (192cm) couldn’t have done much more across the final month of his 2021 campaign to boost his prospects. After averaging 25 disposals from his final three WAFL reserves games, Johnson was named WA’s best player in the AFL Grand Final curtain-raiser clash against SA. A few weeks later at the draft combine, he placed third nationally in the agility test, sixth in the standing vertical jump and seventh in the running vertical jump while also running the 20m sprint in under three seconds.

Draft Range: 8-20


Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)

Stealing is a sin, but Sinn could be the steal of this year’s draft, should he slip to the latter stages of the first round. A genuine line-breaker with explosive leg speed and run and carry ability, Sinn is one of the most exciting first-round prospects. But after entering the year as a top-five contender, he endured a frustrating, injury-interrupted season, averaging just 17.6 disposals at NAB League level. One aspect recruiters believe Sinn needs to work on is his ability to play at different tempos in-game. But once fit at AFL level, the 186cm prospect could become one of the most eye-catching players in the game.

Draft Range: 10-20


Zac Taylor (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)

The 180cm midfielder is another first-round bolter following a terrific end to his 2021 campaign. After averaging 19.8 touches from his first four NAB League matches, Taylor upped the ante significantly in his final three games, finishing with 32, 34 and 37 disposals respectively. An efficient, clever distributor with a strong inside-outside balance, Taylor is one of the most well-rounded on-ballers in this year’s pool but could ultimately be a small forward at AFL level.

Draft Range: 20-30

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-news-prospects-rankings-draft-range-tyler-sonsie-matthew-roberts-arlo-draper-rhett-bazzo/news-story/af5a487fa0cebad15afd989373d22bcb

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #461 on: October 28, 2021, 12:10:36 PM »
Callum Twomey reckons there will be only 56 picks used in the Draft.

He said we (Richmond) would have to give up pick 7 + our future first to do a swap with GWS for pick 2.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/686050/listen-the-horne-francis-v-daicos-debate-why-this-draft-will-be-different


Mac Andrew has bulked up to 80kg ahead of AFL draft. He's put on 10kg this year.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/big-mac-andrew-bulks-up-ahead-of-afl-draft-20211027-p593q0.html


Jye Amiss highlights clip & article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-rLGqrKyL8

https://www.afl.com.au/news/685933/the-family-decision-that-changed-dead-eye-jye-amiss-forever

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #462 on: October 28, 2021, 07:13:47 PM »
No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #463 on: October 28, 2021, 07:20:31 PM »
No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal

I would do that in a heart beat for Callaghan

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #464 on: October 28, 2021, 08:37:48 PM »
No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal

I would do that in a heart beat for Callaghan
If he is a generational player??