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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2021, 10:43:31 AM »
Is he seriously saying HIS vision for the game and presenting that lay down misere granny as an example ?  So his vision is to hand the ball to individual players and shoo everyone else away so they can go unhindered to perform a solo uncontested gymnastics routine or something?  Is he insane?

That is the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard from a senior official if any sport at any time ever.
WTF????
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2021, 01:55:38 PM »
Hocking 2 , keeping a rule that is biased

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2021, 04:26:24 PM »
Should be renamed Statue Rule.


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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2021, 03:43:12 AM »
Stoppages, tackling down, leaving radical AFL rule changes unlikely in 2022

By Jon Pierik and Peter Ryan
The Age
November 23, 2021


A drop in contested possessions, tackles and stoppages has backed Brad Scott’s declaration that 2022 will be a year of consolidation around the game, following the radical shifts in rules during Steve Hocking’s time as the AFL’s head of football.

Scott said the league had begun to seek feedback from coaches on the game’s biggest issues, and any changes would be communicated to clubs before the Christmas break.

Scott, who was appointed to the football management role in September, reporting to AFL executive Andrew Dillon, said conversations around the stand rule, match review decisions, and the medical sub, with one suggestion being for teams to be able to use their sub in the final term regardless of injury, were ongoing but he did not envisage radical change.

“We have had a lot of feedback from coaches in particular, and we will take all of those on board and then firm up a position before Christmas,” Scott said.

“[The] overarching view is that 2022 will be one of consolidation, but we always reserve the right to tweak around the edges.”



The competition committee will meet again on Tuesday with the expanded body now including a representative from all but two clubs as they discuss big picture issues confronting the game.

Sources said there has not been an agenda set with pre-reading material with the expectation being that the meeting will lay a foundation for future discussion.

However, important data on how the game was played this year will encourage the 21-member committee.

Sources close to the committee say there is regular debate around striking the right balance between high scoring and the desire for close results, but the priority has been to ease congestion, with the league determined to open up play.

The stand rule for the man on the mark introduced last season, which has encouraged the player with the ball - when at half-back or on a wing - to look more for the 45-degree kick into the centre corridor, has been seen by some observers as a reason for play appearing to open up.

Statistics provided to The Age by Champion Data highlight a more flowing game, with the contested possession rate 37.8 per cent since 2017. The average tackles per team was 57.4, more than 12 less than 2016, and almost six less than 2020 when matches were shortened as a result of the pandemic. However, one reason for the drop in tackles could be that players, at times, were reluctant to be first to the ball, given a free kick could be paid quickly - depending on the interpretation of holding the ball.



Senior coaches Damien Hardwick, Brett Ratten (after his side won only three free kicks from 86 tackles against Geelong) and Chris Fagan, and Port Adelaide veteran player Travis Boak were among those throughout the season who said prior opportunity was causing too much confusion and suggested it be scrapped.

The average combined numbers of throw-ins and ball-ups per game (59.8 ) was almost five less than last year, while secondary stoppages also slipped.

What should also please the AFL - and broadcasters Seven and Foxtel - is that there was an increase in the number of close matches this season. While the number of matches decided by 10 points or less returned to 2019 levels (22.7 per cent) when matches were also at full length, the number of results decided between 11-20 points increased to 38.2 per cent, up by 1.2 per cent. This meant there was a decrease in matches decided 30-50 points.

For those coaches and supporters in favour of reduced game time, their argument could be strengthened in that the number of results in 2020 decided by up to 10 points was 23.5 per cent.

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale has already made his view on the contentious stand rule clear, with the Tigers keen to have it scrapped. However, there is a view inside the AFL that, although scoring did not increase, games were more attractive in 2021 and the ball flowed more freely.

The average score this year was 79.7, compared with 75.8 in shortened quarters last season, and, perhaps worryingly, 80.2 in 2019.

The competition committee, as part of its remit, also has fixturing, game analysis and the industry workforce model, the latter attempting to help keep costs under control.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/stoppages-tackling-down-leaving-radical-afl-rule-changes-unlikely-in-2022-20211120-p59alu.html

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2021, 10:10:41 AM »
Brad Scott is the 2nd coming of Shocking. Tiger hater and Gilligan sycophant.  Can’t stand the prick

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2021, 10:52:08 AM »
Brad Scott is the 2nd coming of Shocking. Tiger hater and Gilligan sycophant.  Can’t stand the prick

That's the afl for you gave him a job last year after being sacked and roos had to pay him out more however the afl , and they took him in a role now this role lol and that brothel of a club claim they a depth free I wonder why.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2021, 06:27:34 PM »
Brad Scott warning crackdown on time wasters and high contact

https://www.afl.com.au/video/688882/scott-warning-crackdown-coming-on-time-wasters-high-contact?videoId=688882&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637645222001

- No rule changes for 2022 but there will be changes in umpire interpretations.
- Crackdown on players slowing down the play handing the ball back to opponents or preventing an ump balling up the footy at stoppages.
- Stricter on head high bumps.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2021, 01:05:20 PM »
Brad Scott warning crackdown on time wasters and high contact

https://www.afl.com.au/video/688882/scott-warning-crackdown-coming-on-time-wasters-high-contact?videoId=688882&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637645222001

- No rule changes for 2022 but there will be changes in umpire interpretations.
- Crackdown on players slowing down the play handing the ball back to opponents or preventing an ump balling up the footy at stoppages.
- Stricter on head high bumps.

Good changes (and they are changes, stop insulting us AFL).
The time wasting is infuriating…..
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2021, 04:33:40 PM »
Stricter on head high bumps how? Pay the obvious ones that's enough.

How about stricter on blokes drawing high contact?

Holding the ball?

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2021, 04:39:41 PM »
Welcome to the contradictory AFL rules under SHocking and now Scott:

1. AFL introduces a rule that umpires have to wait at stoppages to ask for the ruckmen to nominate rather than the ump just bouncing the ball quickly to keep the game moving.

2. AFL complains about time wasting.

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2021, 04:49:51 PM »
Who appointed this dud, him, hocking and Christian full of themselves and this new dud full of preconceived bias taking over, how do we vote them out

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Re: Jack Riewoldt & Benny Gale slam the Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2021, 05:18:21 PM »
Who appointed this dud, him, hocking and Christian full of themselves and this new dud full of preconceived bias taking over, how do we vote them out

Pathetic a joke another yes man got the job as roos had to pay him out.


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Re: The Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2022, 04:12:34 AM »
Stupid, non-sensical rule.

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Re: The Stand rule [merged]
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2022, 07:53:12 AM »
Fan engagement!

Except where the rules and spectacle are concerned.

Instead we get more themed rounds...yay...