Sam Banks [merged]

[the claw]

Another hbf what we just didn't rate the many mids that were in this draft.

Why both Banks and Brown it does not make sense.

Gez claw read a bit mate plays in the guts and wing to elite skills and kicking something we lack.

 seems to me we have taken primarily a  rebounding defender. He should be able to play wing as well but georgies the bits ive read say hes a defender. He even says so himself.

10 kg and we play him across H/B or wing.

The recruiters described him as a versatile player capable of playing AFL  as a rebounding defender. That to me is a definate thats one role they are sure about, with the scope to progress to a wing they are saying he has the right attributes to play wing well if he can play h/b he can play wing.

they finish with Potentially a midfield role in time. Has potential for a mid field role no definates there he may in time develop into one
he may not.

His primary role has been and most likely will be as a rebounding defender.I reckon thats pretty clear.

[Rampsation]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

[the claw]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

[Fluffy Tiger]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

I enjoy your posts Craw but Flossy touted as a midfielder?  .
That’s right up there.

[Andyy]

We played him mid a bit didn't we? Heck I remember he kicked a few sensational running goals as a kid before they trained the teenage flair out of him haha

[Fluffy Tiger]

We played him mid a bit didn't we? Heck I remember he kicked a few sensational running goals as a kid before they trained the teenage flair out of him haha

Yeah we did try him there in his 3rd or 4th year (can't remember which) but he definitely was not drafted as midfielder.

[the claw]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

Lol what a nonsense. He played all year as a midfielder and he was widely regarded as a potential top 5 pick.
For some reason vic metro played him mostly at hb in the championships and it stuck.This is not something new it happens a lot.

Go look up the right ups on Nick he was very much regarded as a mid and we were after a mid.

Lol pick 9 on nothing but a flanker its a shame those so called alternate facts are actually true.I wonder whose credability is wanting now. You better keep working on that memory.

For what its worth i was hoping Vlastuin would get to us at our pick but when Brodie Grundie was still there i wanted us to take him.
Even after both careers to date id still take Grundy.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Brodie is an out and out head case. An upgrade on Tyrone Vickery

[georgies31]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

Lol what a nonsense. He played all year as a midfielder and he was widely regarded as a potential top 5 pick.
For some reason vic metro played him mostly at hb in the championships and it stuck.This is not something new it happens a lot.

Go look up the right ups on Nick he was very much regarded as a mid and we were after a mid.

Lol pick 9 on nothing but a flanker its a shame those so called alternate facts are actually true.I wonder whose credability is wanting now. You better keep working on that memory.

For what its worth i was hoping Vlastuin would get to us at our pick but when Brodie Grundie was still there i wanted us to take him.
Even after both careers to date id still take Grundy.

Your loosing me Claw midfield or half back who cares played a huge part in our 3 flags that's what counts you try to find a negative in everything we do mate back the club who delivered 3 of the last 5 flags.

[Andyy]

Vlastuin at pick 9 in a compromised draft was a steal.

It was a pee weak year anyway.

Legitimately the only player we missed out on at P9 is Grundy and despite being a great ruck he's still flagless and overpaid. You simply don't pay a ruck anywhere near 7 figures lol. Recent premiership teams (bar Melb 2021) have basically all proved you can win a flag with a competitive ruck.

[Fluffy Tiger]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

Lol what a nonsense. He played all year as a midfielder and he was widely regarded as a potential top 5 pick.
For some reason vic metro played him mostly at hb in the championships and it stuck.This is not something new it happens a lot.

Go look up the right ups on Nick he was very much regarded as a mid and we were after a mid.

Lol pick 9 on nothing but a flanker its a shame those so called alternate facts are actually true.I wonder whose credability is wanting now. You better keep working on that memory.

For what its worth i was hoping Vlastuin would get to us at our pick but when Brodie Grundie was still there i wanted us to take him.
Even after both careers to date id still take Grundy.

Well what I saw an read he was a defender in my mind. You are correct that he was promoted as a midfield in many (not all) in write ups. As far a playing him as a mid and not working out well he was played down back for a long time before given a good try in the midfield.  Not exactly the way you put it as a mid that didn't work out. To me he has been a fantastic player for us and a big part of our three flags.

What I would really love to know is why you come here and constantly bag our players and supporters especially in a successful era that some of us have been waiting for for many decades ?. What is the point ? Is it you just want to pee people of, do you get something from it? I'm sure there is a name for somebody that does that, I just can't remember it.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

As I’ve said in the past, Craws posts are a good provocation to a forum.
He simply cannot concede when wrong.
It’s very common that junior footballers star as midfielders at underage level before playing elsewhere in the AFL.
There aren’t too many homegrown back flankers in my son’s div 1 smjfl side but i reckon a couple will get drafted and end up there once they hit the afl. Look at it this way, your best juniors who are more suited to a flank are head and shoulders your best player so you are not going to waste them on a back flank. We play them in various spots for development but when the whips are cracking they go straight into the guts. Doesn’t necessarily make them afl mids and our job is to show clubs they can play in different spots on the ground.
I reckon that’s what happen with Floss.

[the claw]

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

Lol what a nonsense. He played all year as a midfielder and he was widely regarded as a potential top 5 pick.
For some reason vic metro played him mostly at hb in the championships and it stuck.This is not something new it happens a lot.

Go look up the right ups on Nick he was very much regarded as a mid and we were after a mid.

Lol pick 9 on nothing but a flanker its a shame those so called alternate facts are actually true.I wonder whose credability is wanting now. You better keep working on that memory.

For what its worth i was hoping Vlastuin would get to us at our pick but when Brodie Grundie was still there i wanted us to take him.
Even after both careers to date id still take Grundy.

Your loosing me Claw midfield or half back who cares played a huge part in our 3 flags that's what counts you try to find a negative in everything we do mate back the club who delivered 3 of the last 5 flags.

Will be a good player. A nick vlastuin type of recruitment. Leadership, good player, potentially a 200 gamer. It was a very sensible pick.

Lol every kid we take is potentially a 200 gamer according to some.Nick Vlastuin was recruited as a mid that didnt work out too well he struggled in the role at afl level.

Im just putting it out there having taken Brown a rebounding defender of similar size and with Broad, Vlastuin, Stack, Short, Mansell it seemed odd that we would take another  HBF  when really solid mids were still available in fact better credentialled mids a lot of predictions from the so called experts had Banks going later in the draft.

But hey lets not question anything they do thats not on.

My recollection was he was taken as a defender and I thought I would  question My memory and your facts.

From the second post in the Nick Vlastin thread on the night he was drafted.

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9. Nick Vlastuin



    Former club:Northern Knights
    DOB:19/04/1994
    Height:186cm
    Position:Defender
    Weight:85kg

Player assessment

Medium midfielder/defender who attacks the ball aggressively and rarely fumbles. Strong and courageous in the air, he also excels at the stoppages. Loves the physical pressure of the game, winning contested ball and tackles strongly. Captained Vic Metro in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and won All-Australian honours for his work as a medium defender averaging 16.6 disposals and 4.6 marks. AIS-AFL Academy member.

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Using alternate facts to support your arguments doesn't help your credibility.

Lol what a nonsense. He played all year as a midfielder and he was widely regarded as a potential top 5 pick.
For some reason vic metro played him mostly at hb in the championships and it stuck.This is not something new it happens a lot.

Go look up the right ups on Nick he was very much regarded as a mid and we were after a mid.

Lol pick 9 on nothing but a flanker its a shame those so called alternate facts are actually true.I wonder whose credability is wanting now. You better keep working on that memory.

For what its worth i was hoping Vlastuin would get to us at our pick but when Brodie Grundie was still there i wanted us to take him.
Even after both careers to date id still take Grundy.

Your loosing me Claw midfield or half back who cares played a huge part in our 3 flags that's what counts you try to find a negative in everything we do mate back the club who delivered 3 of the last 5 flags.

Sorry Georgies what negative? In reply to a post all i basically said was Vlastuin was drafted as a mid that didnt turn out in that role but became a very good defender.where is the bagging.
And yes if given the choice between Grundy and Vlastuin again id still prefer Grundy.But hey i suppose to come to that sort of conclusion you have to take the blinkers off on opposition players.The only other thing i did is question why we took two HBF in regards to Banks wen we had already taken Brown and had so many similar options already on the list.What we can't question these things?

[Rampsation]

Who was the player you would have picked claw instead of Banks.