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Tigers relent in deal for Hopper (HeraldSun)
« Reply #165 on: October 10, 2022, 01:01:47 PM »
TIGERS RELENT IN DEAL FOR HOPPER

Richmond will begrudgingly release Ivan Soldo to Greater Western Sydney to seal the Jacob Hopper deal, as the Tigers plan for a potential five-man bench that could pave the way for clubs to play two full-time ruckmen.

Soldo is getting his head around leaving for GWS in a deal that Richmond hopes could see them hand over Soldo, pick 19 and a future first-rounder, but secure one of the Giants late 2022 picks.

The Tigers are hopeful of taking a selection to this year’s draft – potentially to even use on a young tall in the Jack Riewoldt succession plan – so hope the Giants might be willing to return a late pick to them.

But the intriguing element of the trade is what might happen to the controversial sub rule next year.

News Corp revealed mid-season that the lobbying from the AFL Doctors Association had brought about assurances from the AFL they would remove the current sub rule, which requires a doctor to rule a player must be likely to miss the next week through injury.

Richmond’s understanding is that there is a significant possibility the clubs might just be given a fifth player on the bench to use freely rather than a medical substitute, which has required an injury to bring the fifth player on.

A five-man bench would give clubs latitude to play a second genuine ruckman, rather than one with another tall who can also pinch-hit in the ruck.

Richmond would have been perfectly poised with Toby Nankervis and Soldo as an elite ruck duo but the Tigers realise releasing contracted Soldo is the only way to secure Hopper.

They have high hopes for Ben Miller and Samson Ryan and could also play Noah Balta as a second ruck.

But the club would love to keep Soldo, who rebuffed Western Bulldogs interest to sign a new three-year deal last year.

The Canberra-raised ruckman had a medical with GWS last week.

New Giants coach Adam Kingsley is a big fan of Hugo Ralphsmith but the Giants have plenty of running backs so have not asked for the 20-year-old – and Richmond will not release him.

Clubs would ideally have advance warning on what the 2023 sub rule or expanded bench would look like ahead of the trade period.

But given the tight turnaround from the 2022 season to the trade period, they have to make guesstimates on what the game will look like next year.

Richmond has only pick 31 after handing over selections 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto, but could ask for the last of GWS’ picks in the Hopper trade to secure a live draft selection.

GWS has picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 44, 61, 63, and even the last of those selections would come in to about 50 given it’s not expected clubs will use their late picks.

Richmond secured five selections in the 2021 national draft – Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks and Judson Clarke – and have high hopes for all of them.

It means they have been able to go all-in on two established midfielders on seven-year deals to round out their midfield core.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-all-the-big-deals-as-they-happen/news-story/fe70d07d2dcde91b876ca9cc6ab29385

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #166 on: October 10, 2022, 01:41:59 PM »
GWS have given up their pick 44 for Bedford. So can't get that pick coming back our way.

GWS now have picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 61, 63.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #167 on: October 10, 2022, 01:45:05 PM »
Since they got Bedford for 44, surely let us keep 31 and just take F1 and soldo  :rollin

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #168 on: October 10, 2022, 01:49:46 PM »
From the beginning it should be Soldo and 31 or Soldo and first round either way now that 44 is not coming our way.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #169 on: October 10, 2022, 02:09:30 PM »
2 picks & a player is overs.  Didn't mind when getting a pick back but not now.
Soldo & 2023 first or just the 2 picks.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #170 on: October 10, 2022, 02:18:38 PM »
The deal sounds fair to me.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #171 on: October 10, 2022, 02:46:33 PM »
GWS are exploiting our "goodwill" ::).

If we're going to be completely out of this year's draft then I hope we're now asking for GWS's future 2nd tied to Collingwood.


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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #172 on: October 10, 2022, 03:02:38 PM »
I guess pick 19 is out of the question?     :whistle
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #173 on: October 10, 2022, 03:15:30 PM »
Not happening today by the sounds of it. 

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #174 on: October 10, 2022, 04:13:14 PM »
Reports that GWS are giving up their 2023 second rounder plus 12 & 15 to get pick one from North in the MEGA trade. 
So if they don't have that one or 44 anymore it makes it interesting. 

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #175 on: October 10, 2022, 04:14:37 PM »
Or maybe just 12 and future second

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #176 on: October 10, 2022, 04:37:52 PM »
Yeah think they’re busy finalising their trade to get this years 1st then they’ll know (and we will) exactly what picks they have to finalise the hopper deal.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #177 on: October 10, 2022, 04:40:37 PM »
Twomey saying GWS will receive third round picks as part of that mega trade.

Current 3rd round picks
40. West Coast
43. Port Adelaide
53. Port Adelaide
57. Port Adelaide

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=32182.0

Pick 40 or 43 then onto us?
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #178 on: October 10, 2022, 04:43:54 PM »
Twomey saying GWS will receive third round picks as part of that mega trade.

Current 3rd round picks
40. West Coast
43. Port Adelaide
53. Port Adelaide
57. Port Adelaide

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=32182.0

Pick 40 or 43 then onto us?

Both I will be asking for.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #179 on: October 10, 2022, 05:00:02 PM »
40 + 43 is worth pick 23. Can’t see us getting both but if we do we could trade to the lions for something around our original 31. Lions have 34, 35, 36 & 38. Prob wouldn’t be worth upgrading and losing a second pick just to move up 6 places.