I get that they wanted to have another crack at a flag and recruiting the two seemed like a really good move at the time. Now that there isn’t a soul who thinks we can win the flag any time soon, their long term deals look really really bad. What are they helping us do now, stay mediocre ? We NEED to bottom out to get the top talent in. Sydney haven’t bottomed out but they get gifted players through the academy and Geelong is the other example but I think their recent flag was a true fluke partnered with exceptional recruiting in Danger, Cameron, Tom Stewart