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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2007, 03:11:44 AM »
Grand final in the twilight zone
Caroline Wilson | May 24, 2007

THE AFL is considering a twilight grand final in September following an approach from the Ten Network.

The sport's chiefs have told Ten they will not consider a night match, but say they will look at the idea of starting the 2007 premiership decider about 5pm, ending under lights between 8pm and 8.30pm

AFL chairman Mike Fitzpatrick and chief executive Andrew Demetriou held talks early this month with Network Ten's director of sport, David White, and chief executive, Grant Blackley, who presented the prospect of a national 11-hour telecast beginning at noon and finishing at 11pm.

"They didn't say yes but they have agreed to consider it," said White, who flew to Melbourne and held a second round of talks with the AFL two days ago.

"I think there's a moderate degree of interest but the AFL is mindful of doing the right thing by … its clubs and fans in particular.

"I think it's time — 2007 is the time for the AFL grand final to be played under lights. Every major sport in the world now holds its grand finale under lights. We believe the result would be spectacular and we would reach a much bigger audience."

Demetriou refused to comment last night but confirmed the two meetings. Famously opposed to a night grand final — something all the commercial networks have supported in the past — Demetriou is believed to remain a traditionalist, while some commissioners and members of the AFL executive have a more positive view on the twilight prospect.

While the radical rescheduling of the game's biggest day remains no certainty, the AFL's decision to consider the proposal is a major shift. The current broadcasting deal is worth $780 million to the competition between 2007 and 2011 and that revenue is keeping at least three Victorian clubs alive.

Only yesterday Demetriou sang the praises of the twilight concept, pointing to the fact that the newly scheduled regular Sunday twilight games have been a ratings hit for Foxtel and in terms of attendances.

Channel Ten will host the 2007, 2009 and 2011 grand finals under the current broadcasting agreement, with Seven showing the 2008 and 2010 play-offs. Seven's chief executive David Leckie is a rugby league fan who has also talked up the idea of night grand finals in the past.

But Ten's David White, who enjoys a more influential relationship with the AFL and who has played a pivotal role in the past two multi-network media deals, beginning in 2001, said he now favoured the twilight concept. He met the AFL's general manager of broadcasting, Gillon McLachlan, on Tuesday to develop the proposal.

"The AFL have made it clear they won't look at a night grand final," White said, "and to be honest I'm inclined to agree with them. A five o'clock start is a people-friendly time, not too early and not too late. The grand final breakfast could become the grand final lunch, which we would broadcast along with all manner of interviews and previews.

"After the game we could keep the telecast running until 11pm — not end it at 6pm — with all the presentations, post-game analysis and the premiership team's official celebrations and their dinner."

The AFL Commission and its executive will consider the Ten proposal at its next meeting in June.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/grand-final-in-the-twilight-zone/2007/05/23/1179601488745.html

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2007, 08:14:43 AM »
Twilight, now there's a compomise.
I've always been against a night GF. Slap-bang between a day game and a night game could sway a lot of people. Me included.
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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2007, 04:26:35 PM »
I still prefer Saturday arvo for the GF.

Even if it was held at twilight or night the GF entertainment would still be lame.

If they want to improve the atmosphere at the GF then give the supporters of the two competing clubs first choice of seats.
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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2007, 04:40:21 PM »

If they want to improve the atmosphere at the GF then give the supporters of the two competing clubs first choice of seats.

There you go, that's it in a nutshell - being an MCC member have been to quite a few grand finals and apart from the fact that it is a GF, you just dont sense that passion in the air.

The tradition of footy is bbq's for people that dont go.
Or the one's that are lucky enough.
Up early a few starters and the game before to many starters are consumed (believe me, a lot of fans will miss remembering their side win a flag if it went to night)

And also the tradition of going to the clubs spiritual home for after match celebrations to enjoy the moment, even a twilight game once the clubs were ready it would be too late (especially for kids).

Like said if it's not broke dont fix it.

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 03:31:52 AM »
Are you in favour or against a night Grand Final?


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Channel 10 fights for night AFL Grand Final
Michael Warner | November 01, 2008

CHANNEL 10 has ramped up its push for next year's AFL Grand Final to be played under lights.

Network bosses yesterday confirmed plans to push the AFL for a twilight premiership.

"I'd like to see a 5.30pm bounce," said Ten's general manager of sport David White.

"They (the AFL) know we're very keen on a twilight Grand Final."

Mr White said he preferred a 7.30pm start but believed the AFL was open to a twilight spectacle.

An AFL spokesman said the league remained committed to a day Grand Final.

But AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou has previously flagged a twilight start.

The Grand Final has never started after 2.55pm, and this year returned to its traditional 2.30pm start.

A move to a 5.30pm start is tipped to boost the national TV audience by up to 20 per cent.

Other sports, including the Australian Open men's tennis final and the NRL grand final, have become night events in recent years.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24583476-661,00.html

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2008, 09:23:55 AM »
Bugger off 10.  We get millions at 2:30, it's the traditional and best spot so keep it that way.    :banghead
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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2008, 02:48:37 PM »
No thanks didn't work for the rugby league GF and dont think it would work for the AFL one

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2008, 03:08:37 PM »
Still prefer the tradition of a day GF (except for the pre-game "entertainment") but if the Tiges finally made it to the big one I wouldn't care if it started at 2.30 am.
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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2008, 06:21:57 PM »
Still prefer the tradition of a day GF (except for the pre-game "entertainment") but if the Tiges finally made it to the big one I wouldn't care if it started at 2.30 am.

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2008, 07:59:22 AM »
Half the people that watch the game on the idiot box would only get to see half the game. As they would be peeed.
So I say no to it if it ain't broke then leave it alone.
We get more people to a home and away match than they get to a night Grnd Final in the NRL.
So leaft the bloody thing alone.

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2012, 05:00:44 AM »
Eddie McGuire urges AFL to see light on night Grand Final

    by: Jon Ralph
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    February 15, 2012


COLLINGWOOD president Eddie McGuire says "embarrassing" pre-match Grand Final entertainment must force the AFL to switch to a prime-time night game.

McGuire said last year's Meat Loaf debacle proved the league was incapable of staging quality pre-match entertainment during the afternoon.

He said the league has a serious decision to make: either ditch all pre-match entertainment for an afternoon Grand Final or "get real" with a massive night spectacle.

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou's argument about retaining tradition is obsolete, according to McGuire, because almost every big AFL game is played at night.

"Sooner or later we need some serious discussion on whether we want to have a night Grand Final," he said.

"We have been trying pre-match entertainment since 1977. It doesn't work.

"People come down with trapezes where you can see the wires and footy legends with premiership cups come wandering on to the ground like brown's cows. It's embarrassing.

"We just got over Angry Anderson 20 years ago and (last year) we had Meat Loaf. We don't want that happening next year."

Meat Loaf was paid about $600,000 for a disastrous pre-match performance, with AFL chief operating officer Gillon McLachlan later conceding "he just couldn't sing".

"If we want to keep it as a daytime game, we might as well forget the entertainment," McGuire said.

"Get some massed bands to play Advance Australia Fair and Waltzing Matilda, then get everyone off the ground and bounce the ball.

"But if you want to have a real go, have an entertainment spectacular with a million-dollar budget.

"If you want to put on the biggest and best show, you do it at night."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/eddie-mcguire-urges-afl-to-see-light-on-night-grand-final/story-e6frf9jf-1226271178896

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2012, 08:52:48 AM »
how is playing the grand final at night going to overcome the inabiliy of the AFL to provide quality pre match entertainment.

Is fireworks and a laser show all that is lacking?  :wallywink
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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2012, 10:15:33 AM »
I personally wouldn't mind a night grand final. Then we get a whole day lead up. Hit the turps and a BBQ from lunch and be well primed for the game.

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2012, 01:18:27 PM »
'No' to night Grand Final
By Mark Macgugan
Wed 15 Feb, 2012



AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou has rejected Eddie McGuire's call for the Grand Final to be played at night.

McGuire said in Wednesday morning's Herald Sun that the game needed to be played in darkness if the pre-match entertainment was to be worthwhile.

"If we want to keep it as a daytime game, we might as well forget the entertainment," the Collingwood president said. "We have been trying pre-match entertainment since 1977. It doesn't work."

But Demetriou said the League remained committed to the Grand Final's traditional timeslot.

"The fact is that the night Grand Final never came up in discussions with the Seven Network during our broadcast rights negotiations," he said at Etihad Stadium on Wednesday.

"I think even they accept that our position is one where we take great pride in playing our Grand Final on a Saturday afternoon, which people have built a great tradition around.

"We play most of our other finals at night; we think we've got the balance right."

However, Demetriou also acknowledged that Meat Loaf's underwhelming performance before the 2011 decider had brought into focus the importance of getting the entertainment right.

He said the League was considering moving the pre-game show to half-time, bringing it into line with the NFL Super Bowl.

"[The entertainment] is an important part of our day," he said.

"It's part of our brand and we need to get it right.

"The fact that we've talked about Meat Loaf so much shows that it actually matters to people.

"So our guys have got their thinking caps on about how we do it this year.

"We've been talking about whether it's the right time before the match, or should we do it at half-time? What form should it take?"

The AFL chief said comparisons to the Super Bowl, where Madonna performed a spectacular show this year, were pointless.

"The entertainment at the Super Bowl … we just shouldn't even compare it, because we're never going to go there," Demetriou said.

"It's a $12-15 million production that produces a singer every year who performs for free."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/128965/default.aspx

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Re: Would you prefer a day or night Grand Final?
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2012, 05:25:06 PM »
I'd prefer to keep it as it is but if the gf is a draw then they can play the replay at night.
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