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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2023, 05:04:46 PM »
Are the 2023 Tigers Ready for Broadway

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I’m not quite sure if this year’s Tigers are ready for Broadway. We’ll find out on Friday night when they play a marauding, corridor centric, heavy scoring Collingwood outfit led by Damian Hardwick’s one time grasshopper Craig MaCrae.

After a 2022 season where the Pies had a statistical profile that more closely resembled Gold Coast but for an extraordinary record in close games, the 2023 Pies look like a juggernaut early in the year. They are clearly the heaviest scoring team in footy through 2 games despite having a forward line that is densely populated with second and third bananas. They sustain this by being third in score launches (Scoring chains launched by an intercept possession, free kick, hitout-to-advantage or clearance) and inside 50s while having a number of gifted forward half players who very seldom miss when they kick at goal. As a team kicking 20.10 on the year while leading the league in shots. Put simply, if a Daicos brother gets the ball inside 50, they shouldn’t even have to bother kicking it. Just run it back to the centre. Save the ball boy a jog.

They are middle of the pack in terms of points given up, but they are so explosive going forward that it hasn’t mattered yet. All they need to do down back is hold up. The Pies have won the clearance battle consistently while also taking Richmond’s chaos ball style to its logical conclusion, apparently asking himself “what if we just played as if the wings don’t exist?” Neither he nor his staff could come up with an answer. In that sense, they have the best of both worlds. They win the clearances, but then they also prioritise the territory war.

Watching Collingwood play last year was like watching the most wrenching, absorbing average movie you’ve ever seen – think Hostage with Bruce Willis. Watching them this year is like watching Die Hard. Perfectly executed all action all the time.

The only real concerns for the Pies this year are whether their cavalcade of mediocre forwards will do them in this season? And whether they are peaking too early? A tertiary concern is whether Jordan De Goey can go 6 months without committing another crime.

Richmond, on the other hand, are still very much a work in progress. I have no concerns that the Tigers have peaked too soon. Where McRae has taken the Richmond style to its logical conclusion, Hardwick appears to be looking to zag on it. While the Tigers still clearly emphasise generating turnovers and intercepts, sitting seventh and third respectively in those categories through the first two games of the year, there has been a renewed focus on the clearance game personified by the big money signings of Taranto and Hopper.

While Richmond’s clearance stats aren’t eye popping at 9th in the AFL in clearance, their’ clearance differential is +3.5 per game which sits 7th in the AFL and should improve as they continue to refine their midfield balance. In 2019, by way of contrast, the Tigers sat last in total clearances and 16th in clearance differential.

All of a sudden, everything has flipped and the Tigers are copying Collingwood.

The other interesting change that the Tigers have made is not really a change at all, but instead a second bite at Damien Hardwick’s number 1 (on reflection maybe number 2) fetish: a third key forward. The two incumbents are obviously Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt. Lynch is one of the two or three best forwards in the AFL and has started the season well. Riewoldt is not the player that he once was but, despite his severely diminished athleticism, still knows where the goals are and still knows how to kick them. He’s like a truffle hog. Ground bound but valuable.

After the failed experiment last season with Noah Balta as the third forward, Hardwick brought Sampson Ryan in for his chance to be that third tall. The fact that Ryan was successful against Adelaide is beside the point. Where the Tigers’ once primary focus was pressure and tackles inside 50, through two games Richmond sits below league average in both categories. At 206cm, Samson Ryan is unlikely to be mistaken by Jason Castagna in terms of ball pressure.

In large part, Richmond’s allocation of resources over the offseason and the way they played in 2022 telegraphed this pivot in game style. Most Tiger fans, myself included, expected this and also expect that it will only get better as the team starts to embrace the shift. The real worries lay behind the ball where Richmond appeared either too old or too young, and altogether too reliant on Dylan Grimes coming off another severe hamstring injury. Thus far, however, Richmond is holding up. Through two games they are second in goals given up to opponents even despite having played Carlton’s twin towers. It should be noted, however that Richmond are 9th in shots allowed, a more sustainable indicator of defensive success than just goals kicked by opponents.

The true test, however, is not early in the season when everyone is fresh. What happens if/when Grimes misses some time, be it through injury or management? Would it be Vlastuin or Balta who slots into Grimes’ role? Put simply, are the X’s and O’s going to be good enough when the Jimmy’s and the Joe’s start to get worse? I don’t know, but I am apprehensive to find out.

While Collingwood spent the offseason refining their tweaks to the Richmond style and chopping the wings off the ground at Gosch’s Paddock, Richmond spent theirs implementing a new style. Friday night is not, therefore, a referendum on much of anything other than who is better in round 3. I don’t expect Richmond to win, and if Richmond loses this week, I don’t expect it to matter all that much.

The key takeaway is that all of a sudden the Tigers are behind Collingwood in terms of development and refinement of a game plan, and that makes Friday night’s game between master and apprentice all the more enticing.

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2023, 06:19:52 AM »
"I'm confident in our brand of footy as well & we know that stacks up against anyone." - Toby Nankervis.

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1294473/-we-know-their-style-pretty-well-nankervis

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2023, 06:23:56 AM »
How do you stop Nick Daicos?

Jordan Lewis & Eddie Betts share their thoughts.

Watch: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1641002668658401280


Luke Hodge suggested Cotch. Lewis liked that idea as he said Cotch has footy smarts. Still need to play Daicos goal side though.

Robbo said Baker but Lewis said that's still too negative. Lewis would go with Bolton hoping Shai kicks two early to force Daicos to defend and not just run into the middle.

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2023, 11:16:36 AM »
How are we too young behind the ball.  If all are fit. Tarrant 34, Grimes 31, Broad 30, Vlastuin 28, Rioli 25, Balta 23.
The back ups have been Short 27, Baker 25, Young 24, Gibcus 20, Miller 23, Nyuon 21.Browne 19. Mansell 22, Smith 18.

Fair dinkum i reckon Grimes has been ordinary. Most of us are holding back because of how good he has been.

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2023, 12:05:28 PM »
How do you stop Nick Daicos?

Jordan Lewis & Eddie Betts share their thoughts.

Watch: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1641002668658401280


Luke Hodge suggested Cotch. Lewis liked that idea as he said Cotch has footy smarts. Still need to play Daicos goal side though.

Robbo said Baker but Lewis said that's still too negative. Lewis would go with Bolton hoping Shai kicks two early to force Daicos to defend and not just run into the middle.

Cotchin at the centre bounce, Graham around the ground. Tag him hard and let him know he's playing against seasoned men.

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Operation Stop Daicos: Tigers to use team approach to quell Magpies ace

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30 March 2023


RICHMOND will resist trying to tag early Brownlow Medal favourite Nick Daicos in its crunch clash against Collingwood on Friday night.

Daicos is the talk of the town after the 20-year-old's blistering beginning to his second season with Tigers coach Damien Hardwick saying on Thursday he couldn't recall a better career start.

Coaching his 300th AFL game at the Tigers, Hardwick has his hands full with injuries to key men Dustin Martin, Jacob Hopper and Jayden Short, while Nathan Broad is suspended.

In some welcome news for the club, Hardwick expects superstar Martin, who has hamstring awareness, to only sit out one game while Hopper's injury was unrelated to his history of knee trouble.

Hardwick said Richmond would likely rely on a system rather than a tag to stop Daicos at the MCG.

"He's a very good player, but Collingwood have got a lot of very good players so we generally rely on the system to take care of it," Hardwick told reporters.

"We'll have contingencies and try and manage him as best we can - he's going to get the ball, no question, so, do we allow him to play his game and try and manage it and try and exploit him the other way? Probably."

Hardwick likened the early impact of Daicos to a young Chris Judd starting out his career at West Coast.

On the back of his two dominant performances this year Daicos is equal Brownlow Medal favourite with Demon Clayton Oliver and Carlton's Patrick Cripps.

"Back when I played Chris Judd came in with the same sort of pedigree," Hardwick recalled.

"He played against us when I was playing at Port and kicked four (goals) in a game, destroyed us.

"I don't think I've seen a better first year from any player and then you think, surely he couldn't back it up, but he seems to have got better again."

While Collingwood are unbeaten, Richmond has opened with a draw and a win.

Magpies coach Craig McCrae and his assistant Justin Leppitsch have both spent time as assistants under Hardwick, who said they knew each other's game style well.

"It's whose system stands up better, and who brings great intent," he said.

"We are both territory sides, want to try and get the game played in our half whoever does that will obviously come out on top.

"We probably have got an understanding of how they're trying to move the ball, what they're trying to do with the ball but it's easy to see that and trying to stop that is the next challenge."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/892146/operation-stop-daicos-tigers-to-use-team-approach-to-quell-magpies-ace

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2023, 03:49:54 PM »
With a few big outs, it's a great test for our system. If we can win or run them close, we'll know we are tracking well.

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2023, 07:17:40 PM »
Burning Questions for Round 3

Catherine Healey and Max Laughton
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30 March 2023


Tigers’ burning question: Is it the former skipper to the rescue for Richmond?

No Dustin Martin and no Jacob Hopper for Richmond this week leaves the side “thread bare” according to Gerard Whateley and undermanned in the middle. But veteran Trent Cotchin looms as Richmond’s potential saviour. The former skipper can rotate through the middle, and four-time premiership player Luke Hodge believes there’s an even bigger role with Cotchin’s name on it – shutting down Nick Daicos. “(Play) as a defensive forward this week,” he said on SEN. “There’s a smart bloke who’s disciplined and who knows how to find the footy. (Cotchin) can play a serious role for them. All he has to do is limit (Daicos) to 12,13, 15 touches and if Cotch kicks a goal, they’d look at that as an even. There’s a role for him – limit (Collingwood’s) most attacking, best kick in the game and see if you can add value that way to the side.” Fox Footy commentator Gerard Healy agreed that a defensive forward role has worked against Daicos in the past, pointing to Swan Ryan Clarke.

Magpies’ burning question: Who can stop the ‘Flagpies’ run?

Craig McRae and his band of merry men are simply dominating after two rounds of AFL action. The Magpies have shown their preliminary final run was no fluke as the team has improved exponentially in areas that held them back last season. After being ranked 17th in contested differential, Collingwood is now sitting first. Statistics show the Magpies are ranked No. 1 for ball movement, second for ball use and third for contest and clearance in warning signs for their rivals. “Their first two rounds were amazing. Offensive weapons everywhere and a style of play making the most of what they’ve got,” Fox Footy’s Nathan Buckley said. “We love the way they play – it’s exciting. (McRae’s) come in clearly and given them confidence to just pull the trigger,” Jonathan Brown added on On the Couch.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-the-blowtorch-round-3-preview-every-clubs-burning-question-fox-footy-commentators-broadcast-guide-schedule-latest-news-video/news-story/a79baaf56cbc0bfa4bc20e81daff8b7f

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2023, 12:31:50 AM »
The umps for tonight:

3 - Leigh Fisher
12 - Andrew Stephens
29 - Andrew Heffernan
32 - Jacob Mollison

https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Round-3.pdf

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Re: Richmond vs Collingwood @ the MCG --- Round 3, 2023
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2023, 04:14:47 AM »
Mollison - FMD  :banghead :banghead :banghead

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Four recent moments that have further sparked the Richmond and Collingwood rivalry

Annie Ireland
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March 31, 2023


Ahead of tonight's massive grudge match between Collingwood and Richmond, we've taken a look at some of the biggest moments between the two sides over the last few years.

From some thrilling contests to unprecedented outcomes, here are four moments fans of both the Magpies and Tigers might remember from recent seasons.

Grundy's match-winner, 2016

Saturday will mark seven years to the day since this iconic moment, as Collingwood stole the win from Richmond via a Brodie Grundy goal in the game's dying stages.

A second-year Darcy Moore sent the ball deep into Collingwood's forward half off a deliberate free kick, with nobody marking the pill before it spilt to the ground.

Somehow, Grundy managed to grab the ball out of the pack and kick a remarkable goal with four seconds to go and hand the Pies a one-point victory.

It was a big night for forwards at either end as well, with Tigers champion Jack Riewoldt kicking three in the final term and Alex Fasolo kicking six goals for the Magpies, including five in the second half.

The 2018 preliminary final

Richmond had won 22 games in a row, had built an MCG fortress and were searching for back-to-back premierships until Collingwood pulled off an upset for the ages, led by American Mason Cox.

The Pies won by 39 points, with Jordan De Goey starring to kick four, but it was Cox's efforts that had the MCG crowd chanting "USA! USA! USA!"

Cox kicked the first three goals of the second quarter to put the Pies 42 points up. His most memorable moment was his contested specky in attack before strutting back to kick a set shot and exposing Richmond's defence.

Another key story out of the game was Richmond's decision to play Dustin Martin. There had been talk of concerns about Dusty's corkie all week. Was he fit? Would he play? Neil Balme and Damien Hardwick had both shrugged off concerns, however, it was evident Dusty was under an injury cloud as he recorded zero clearances and was tagged by Levi Greenwood.

The 2020 season restart

The first game after the season originally paused in 2020 in front of what usually would've been 80,000 fans - except it was an empty stadium.

The strange atmosphere resulted in an even stranger outcome - a low scoring 36-36 draw was recorded, recording a tie for the second time between these two sides since 1917.

Richmond would've been wondering what could've been, leading the inside 50 count 43-32 and Tom Lynch kicking three goals.

Collingwood also had the potential to win the game, desperately rushing a behind in Richmond's forward half with two minutes to go, levelling the scores.

Higgins' 'snag' of the year

Jack Higgins won the 2018 Goal of the Year for a remarkable goal against Collingwood in Round 19.

Many had originally thought the goal wasn't actually a goal, instead suggesting that Higgins had thrown the ball before his boot made contact with it mid-air. However, the AFL confirmed it was a "clear goal."

Higgins tapped the ball upwards and somehow scissor-kicked it over his head to go through for a goal, with his teammates giving him the nickname 'snags,' delivering a memorable speech for the award at the 2018 Brownlow count.

https://www.zerohanger.com/four-recent-moments-that-have-further-sparked-the-richmond-and-collingwood-rivalry-134906/

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Will a Tiger go to Nick Daicos on Friday night? (ZH)
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2023, 06:32:32 PM »
Will a Tiger go to Nick Daicos on Friday night?

Jack Jovanovski
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31 March 2023


Three-time Richmond premiership coach Damien Hardwick, entering his 300th game as Tigers coach on Friday, has an array of headaches as he prepares his side for its blockbuster match against the in-form Collingwood, including forced changes at team selection, as well as whether he sends one of his disciples to rampaging Pie, Nick Daicos.

Entertaining the media on Thursday, Hardwick toyed with the idea of assigning one of his Tigers to attempt to curtail the damaging Daicos, surfacing the prospect of his side's "system" being the main combatant and forcing the son-of-a-gun to be accountable defensively.

"Well, he's a very good player, but Collingwood have got a lot of very good players, to be honest, so we generally rely on [our] system to take care of it.

"But, look, we'll have contingencies and try and manage him as best we can. He's going to get the ball, no question, so, do we allow him to play his game and try and manage it and try and exploit him the other way? Probably.

"So, a lot of sides have tried but not many have succeeded, so we're one of those that will give it a crack."

Richmond's forced changes, comprising of  Dustin Martin (general soreness), Jacob Hopper (knee), Jayden Short (calf) and Nathan Broad (four-game suspension), replaced on Thursday night by youthful trio Jack Ross, Hugo Ralphsmith and Judson Clarke, may impact Hardwick's decision-making pertaining to choosing a desired tagger.

To elaborate, Trent Cotchin, a candidate to run with the defensively-deployed Daicos due to the Brownlow Medal winner's sojourn to the forward line this year, could be shifted back to predominantly midfield duties on Friday night because of Hopper's absence. Richmond's ex-skipper, spiritual leader, and renowned contested-ball devotee may be the perfect run-with option to stick next to the Collingwood accumulator.

The Punt Road stalwart, while he doesn't possess the same foot speed as he once did, does still possess the acumen and nous for the game that fuelled him to lead three premiership-winning Richmond outfits.

Liam Baker and Rhyan Mansell, too, are viable candidates to put the defensive clamps on the father-son prodigy from a forward position. Baker, reputable across the competition for his tenacity when approaching a contest, would undoubtedly ensure physicality if he were assigned to Daicos.

Meanwhile, on the topic of aggressiveness, fringe best-22 utility Mansell presents as an alternative option. In previous seasons, Mansell has instigated frisky encounters when shadowing Melbourne goal-threat Kysaiah Pickett and Collingwood forward Jack Ginnivan, encouraging the notion that he could be the perfect option to frustrate an otherwise-composed Daicos.

Finally, an additional consideration is Maurice Rioli Jr. A fellow son-of-a-gun, Rioli has swiftly built a repertoire of applying forward-line defensive pressure. The youngster is virtually an ambassador of Hardwick's storied forward-pressure philosophy, accumulating multitudinous pressure acts on a week-to-week basis. In 2022, Rioli ranked equal-12th among forwards in pressure acts per game (19.2) in just his second AFL season. He's certainly an option Hardwick will ponder.

Ultimately, though, Hardwick could simply put a line through the entire idea of an individual irritant, instead potentially opting to rely on that "system" we continually hear about from the yellow and black mentor.

If so, the Tigers, without a bevy of guns on Friday night, will need all the 'systematic' help they can get if they want to let Daicos wander unopposed.

https://www.zerohanger.com/tigers-tagging-plans-two-testing-derbies-tension-on-the-gold-coast-under-the-microscope-round-3-134941/